Bradley or D.Garcia - who's more overrated?

I don't think either are overrated in all fairness because they both deserve the position they are in... However if forced to pick between the two I would say that in general Garcia is more than Bradley, despite how questionable a couple of Bradley's W's are to some people.

Define "Overrated"... Better yet, if they're both "Overrated" then who do you have to beat to be rated?

I'd have to go with Garcia. As much as I don't like Bradley's style, I have to admit he is a good fighter. Not one of the greats but he is definitely a solid fighter. Garcia on the other hand, in my honest opinion (I have friends here who are Garcia fans so my apologies/nothing personal), is one of the luckiest fighters in the sport. He's had a string of lucky fights with lucky scenarios... He is a decent fighter but I expect for him to be put into the C-/D+ level at the end of this year.

NEITHER both have really earned their spots. RIsing stars on that borderline, BOTH just need that ONE dominating victory over a prime rival

It's only a matter of time before these two ridiculously overrated fighters are debunked. Both are solid but lack that world class talent. Bradley's a good athlete and has great heart/determination, he's a decent boxer as well (nothing more than decent), but he's not an elite fighter. It won't be long before he gets his first loss on paper, he's already got 2 (one against a B level fighter with little talent), just not officially. D.Garcia's got good power and a great chin, but he's not a naturally gifted boxer. He's slow, flat-footed, got no head movement and lacks versatility. His footwork and movement in general just isn't good enough. I'm not saying these guys are bad fighters, but they're nowhere near as good people think imo. Especially D.Garcia, who I feel is the more overrated out of the two. It sems to me that your description of Garcia is just about a description of Rocky Marciano, except that Marciano bent from the waist and always went in head first.

The quality of fighter and the rankings at the time are so different though. We're talking to top 5 p4pers, one of which is an ATG. I'm sorry, beating Lucas Matthysse 7-5 or 8-4 isn't better than beating Marquez the same or Donaire 9-3 or 10-2. Rigo and Bradley were underdogs as well. You argued anyone with sense would think Garcia/Matthysse was 50-50 as well. Doesn't mean that's how it was seen to the betting public. Alas, you are correct.

Neither are overrated. They're both very, very good fighters. All they do is win.

another stupid thread ... i hate 50 % of boxing fans ..... none of these 2 are overrated .... you are that guy that waits until a fighter losses once to call him a "hype" or "overrated" sad .... bradley resume is freaking good 2 disputed wins one classic fight ... beat underfeated alexender .. peterson ... wins over holt witter cherry of the world was beating up nate campell .. beat 135 champ now miguel vazquez .... underfeated luis abrgeu who has not loss since 5 ko knockout dulmore who pricans had hopes for and beat solid contender decarie ... win over a animal ruslan provinikov and hall famer marquez ... what do you want this man to do ... name me any other eilte fighter outside of top 4 fighters who had a resume a road like this ... what's wrong with you guys we get mad at broner having a easy road but then we get mad bradley who fought mostly everybody... sad just sad what we say about fighters smh .... name me anybody else who last 3 fights match pacquiao ruslan and marquez i'm not even his biggest fan but i respect him .. never had anything easy

Sure you can. Danny was the underdog big time. Anyone with any sense knows Bradley/Marquez and Nonito/Rigo were pick em fights. The quality of fighter and the rankings at the time are so different though. We're talking to top 5 p4pers, one of which is an ATG. I'm sorry, beating Lucas Matthysse 7-5 or 8-4 isn't better than beating Marquez the same or Donaire 9-3 or 10-2. Rigo and Bradley were underdogs as well. You argued anyone with sense would think Garcia/Matthysse was 50-50 as well. Doesn't mean that's how it was seen to the betting public.

I think Bradley's better, and more proven against better competition. Remember, Garcia fought an old Morales twice, and a shot Judah. That said, I would love to see these two fight each other.

???? I would never deny the upset, but a close, competitive win over Lucas Matthysse can't compare to a close, competitive win over JMM or a complete outclassing of Nonito Donaire. Sure you can. Danny was the underdog big time. Anyone with any sense knows Bradley/Marquez and Nonito/Rigo were pick em fights.

So you discredit Danny Garcia because he shot Lucas' eye closed? lol. Danny's win over Lucas Matthysse was win of the year of any weightclass for me. ???? I would never deny the upset, but a close, competitive win over Lucas Matthysse can't compare to a close, competitive win over JMM or a complete outclassing of Nonito Donaire.

It's only a matter of time before these two ridiculously overrated fighters are debunked. Both are solid but lack that world class talent. Bradley's a good athlete and has great heart/determination, he's a decent boxer as well (nothing more than decent), but he's not an elite fighter. It won't be long before he gets his first loss on paper, he's already got 2 (one against a B level fighter with little talent), just not officially. D.Garcia's got good power and a great chin, but he's not a naturally gifted boxer. He's slow, flat-footed, got no head movement and lacks versatility. His footwork and movement in general just isn't good enough. I'm not saying these guys are bad fighters, but they're nowhere near as good people think imo. Especially D.Garcia, who I feel is the more overrated out of the two. Both fighters are every bit as good as people think they are and they have proven it in the ring. You can talk about Bradley's disputed victories all you want, but the truth is every fighter gets what one would consider a gift decision every once in a while (Pacquaio has three against Marquez; De La Hoya received gifts against Pernell Whitaker, Ike Quartey and Felix Sturm). That doesn't mean they aren't good or great fighters. Bradley has defeated every fighter he has faced and he has faced some really good fighters. I think he is capable of beating anyone in the welterweight division except Mayweather. Say what you want about Danny Garcia, but the truth is he has beaten every fighter he has faced, including those he was expected to lose against (Khan and Matthysse). He is the best fighter in the 140 pound division without dispute. I have no idea how he would do against the top 147-pounders, but I think he is at least capable of competing with the best in the division. Both fighters deserve all the accolades they are getting and more.

yawn.......

Neither are overrated. With the exception of the Pac robbery both fighters have beaten top opposition. A year ago I would have said Garcia but that guy just continues to find ways to win. That has to be respected.

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Dude you can't expect not to take any punches when you are facing a Lucas Matthysse. I don't understand where you are getting at. Still butthurt that danny manhandled his ass? He took more punches than a fighter with good footwork and head movement would have. For example, Judah and Alexander didn't take that much punishment (not that they could have), because they moved around well, something D.Garcia can't do. I do know they're different match-ups stylistically and all that, but you get my point.

I can't see how Bradley is seen as overrated but some place Rigondeaux ahead of him on their p4p list. (Good fighter but not top 5)

Seen the fight a couple of times and I can confirm that he has bad footwork and head movement... Matthysse caught him with a number of big shots, shots he wouldn't have had to take if he had either/both of the aforementioned qualities. Not taking any credit away from him for that fight though, I expected and predicted Matthysse to win. Dude you can't expect not to take any punches when you are facing a Lucas Matthysse. I don't understand where you are getting at. Still butthurt that danny manhandled his ass?

Yep, decisions don't really come much clearer than the Bradley-Marquez fight. Was that sarcastic? for what it's worth, it was clear that Bradley was the winner after the fight. Marquez knew it too. You could see it in the ring. It was a 7-5/8-4 kind of fight, but Bradley won his rounds more clearly.