Victor Conte on Napkin Drama - Broner vs Maidana

Victor Conte knows all this info, he must be giving his fighters this since he knows what is tested and what is not,

Conte is only telling on himself. This dude knows every little dirty trick in the book. He seems to be jealous of Ariza for some reason because every chance he gets he wants to down credit him like they are competing against each other. He talks about Ariza and Memo regularly. It's pretty much an obsession.

I'm using this right now (tablet). Panama Lewis gave this to Aaron Pryor as well.

Conte is only telling on himself. This dude knows every little dirty trick in the book. He seems to be jealous of Ariza for some reason because every chance he gets he wants to down credit him like they are competing against each other.

He was clearly inhaling when Ariza had the napkin at his nose. He was tired, people inhale a lot when they are tired. :dunce:

This is why fighters employ this guy, he knows what drugs are undectable which they can use.

He was clearly inhaling when Ariza had the napkin at his nose.

Fvcking Yanks can't accept defeat, what else is new? Maidana beat his ass and is the king, get over it

ariza is a douchebag, not a dumbass. hes not stupid to pull some kind of sht like that when theres an official watching their corners. this is not his first rodeo to work the corner on a major fight.

you're being sarcastic, i get it, but in all likelihood people would not be talking about it like this if it wasn't Ariza. :lol1: I'm not that bad like these posters. Wasn't being funny. Haha. I meant that. I really don't think anyone would have noticed if it was someone else. But being that it was Ariza, some were watching him with hawk eyes.

Nah your just a blind biased hater that refuses to even question it. If it was broner corner doing it you would be leading the charge on this. Get outta here kid. On first seeing it, I admitted that it looked weird. Fact is, there's no proof. Nothing. Wait and see.

Wondering what was on the napkin is "very rational"? How can it be very rational if you don't even know that there is something on the napkin in the first place? Do you even know what "rational" means? There often comes a time in a conversation when it's useless to continue, and you have brought us to that point. Nah your just a blind biased hater that refuses to even question it. And your right, it's at that point where it's useless to continue this conversation. If it was broner corner doing it you would be leading the charge on this.

Yeah, none would have noticed if it wasn't Ariza. Wouldn't had even been a thought. you're being sarcastic, i get it, but in all likelihood people would not be talking about it like this if it wasn't Ariza.

We have plenty of time for rational questions. Wondering what was on the napkin is a very rational question. We will see when the tests come back but either way Ariza will have to answer those questions. He can't hide forever. Wondering what was on the napkin is "very rational"? How can it be very rational if you don't even know that there is something on the napkin in the first place? Do you even know what "rational" means? There often comes a time in a conversation when it's useless to continue, and you have brought us to that point.

Those are called cotton swabs, and they're in plain view. If not, how many of these white packets do you think he needs for one trip to the corner? Why in the hell would he need more than one packet of ammonia, bath salts, adrenaline or nitrous oxide in his hand - increasing his chance of being caught with them, I might add - just to get Maidana to look alive after one shot from Broner after the bell? But I guess we don't have time for rational questions. They are not cotton swabs. They are way too stubby. He also clearly places one in the napkin, which wouldnt make sense if it was cotton. As for why he has more than 1? Perhaps if he lost it, they are small after all.

it's interesting how easily such a thing can be missed (not saying this was the case here, just in regards to Conte's tweets and that article), cutmen are always using q-tips, there's no way of even suspecting such a thing unless a fighter's nose isn't bleeding and the trainers continue to shove q-tips up his nose. Conte said he suspected Clottey of doing this verus Pacquiao. I think all trainers know about it tho and its probably just one of those accepted insider things in boxing. On the other hand, I agree with the poster that said a lot of this is being blown up because it's Ariza in the video. Rios' failed test doesn't help matters for Team Garcia, but if this was some random cutman, most people would not have thought much of it, or even noticed it. Yeah, none would have noticed if it wasn't Ariza. Wouldn't had even been a thought.

Those are called cotton swabs, and they're in plain view. If not, how many of these white packets do you think he needs for one trip to the corner? Why in the hell would he need more than one packet of ammonia, bath salts, adrenaline or nitrous oxide in his hand - increasing his chance of being caught with them, I might add - just to get Maidana to look alive after one shot from Broner after the bell? But I guess we don't have time for rational questions. We have plenty of time for rational questions. Wondering what was on the napkin is a very rational question. We will see when the tests come back but either way Ariza will have to answer those questions. He can't hide forever. And broner haters need to stop saying we are discrediting maidana. These are valid questions. maidana didn't need that **** from ariza to beat broner

Oh so we should ignore it because people just hate broner. You definitely have a lot of common sense. Did you read the post? Don't think so, because your summary of it sucks. Don't make me spell it out for you further.

I think some are missing the bigger picture here. Broner's illegal tactics could have been prevented or contained through the referee. But what is allegedly done here is not something a ref can prevent. And it's something that can continue to be done in the future. What's stopping anyone from doing it? it's interesting how easily such a thing can be missed (not saying this was the case here, just in regards to Conte's tweets and that article), cutmen are always using q-tips, there's no way of even suspecting such a thing unless a fighter's nose isn't bleeding and the trainers continue to shove q-tips up his nose. Conte said he suspected Clottey of doing this verus Pacquiao. I think all trainers know about it tho and its probably just one of those accepted insider things in boxing. On the other hand, I agree with the poster that said a lot of this is being blown up because it's Ariza in the video. Rios' failed test doesn't help matters for Team Garcia, but if this was some random cutman, most people would not have thought much of it, or even noticed it.

Maidana didn't do anything wrong all this is just a way to take away credibility from his big win. Broner was the one using illegal and dirty tactics and Broner is the one who hit Maidana after the bell in rd 11, so Broner and the ref are both the controversial ones. Maidana went in and fought a great fight against a Broner who had all the blessings from a ref who allowed him to get away with anything he pleased and who even helped him out with a point deduction. The ref was crappy as hell he should have at least took a point from broner