Where does Demetrius Andrade fit in at 154?

I'd say #3 behind Floyd and Molina? And if Floyd is not considered a 154lber than I put Andrade at #2 behind Molina. Lara at #3. Agree with this...I feel that Molina doesn't get the proper ranking because he is a victim of his style. Wins over Cintron, Spinks, Smith, was seemingly en route to a victory over Kirkland, Shoulda got the nod over Lara IMO. Even Perez and Paredes are better than other guys wins who are ranked above him. I dunno how you can have Canelo over this guy? Even though I think Canelo would beat him, I think for now Molina has the better resume.

I'd say #3 behind Floyd and Molina? And if Floyd is not considered a 154lber than I put Andrade at #2 behind Molina. Lara at #3. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

The top 5 of the top 10 of the 154 division is very good, the bottom 5 of the top 10 is a mass of mediocrity, it is in this mass that Andrade belongs.

I thought he was relatively impressive against Vanes, it was a pretty decisive win imo. His chin seems a bit suspect to me though, I need to see more of him before forming a proper opinion, but he looks a talent.

Not at the elite level yet. It's strange because he is very talented and has really impressive skills. But he's still too careless and amateurish and that will cost him against the upper echelon.

Yes the problem seems to me he doesn't know how to put it all together, he still looks amateurish I have seen no improvements from his first fights on ESPN. He's obviously improving. But you're right in that you don't see leaps and bounds in that improvement. In 20 fights he's already Rhode Islands best fighter after Pazienza.

Andrade is just 25, has the deepest amateur pedigree in the division outside of Lara and is a big guy to boot. He will continue to improve I think, and will be one of the toughest guys to beat at 154 and 160 eventually. His temperament may not endear him to fans of the Gatti-Ward action though, and it'll probably be hard for him to get opportunities as a defensive southpaw who isn't signed to one of the major promoters. In a year, I think he'll be ready for anybody at 154. And not just ready to compete, he'll be ready to beat them.

No one has really done anything to seperate themselves from the pack at 154. Winning that belt against Vanes definetely puts him in the mix with the top guys. Is he signed win top rank though? It'll be difficult to see him against other top fighters at 54 if he is

nothing special but hope he does well

To be honest Jab it wasn't even a very clear and decisive win for him but 154 is not so great of a division anyway so he could get far. He's in the mix, but he didn't look particularly impressive against Vanes even in winning clearly. Then again, never did Lara and Lara's obviously among the top of the division. He never looks overwhelming, but always looks like he has more tools in his bag, if you know what I mean. Personally I don't think he's got a whole lot of time left at 154, he's a big guy for that weight and won't be able to make it forever.

To be honest Jab it wasn't even a very clear and decisive win for him but 154 is not so great of a division anyway so he could get far. There's no way that Vanes won the fight so in that sense it was decisive for Andrade. But he needs to keep getting better if he is going to have a long title reign.

His promoter need to go after Molina, Canelo could fight Rabchenko or Cotto next for the vacated WBC belt so that going to leave Molina free.

He's in the mix, but he didn't look particularly impressive against Vanes even in winning clearly. Then again, never did Lara and Lara's obviously among the top of the division.