De La Hoya vs. Trinidad Revelations

I usually spend most of my time watching new next/gen boxing matches on youtube, but the limited fighters of today left me starving for some true talent So I decided to watch De La Hoya vs. Trinidad, and I noticed some things. First things first, (though it was in Spanish) I never actually heard De La Hoya's trainers mention anything about stay back, don't engage, just run, etc anything like that for the last 3 rounds Also, IMO De La Hoya won round 10, and clearly as far as I'm concerned... I don't think De La Hoya's running in the 11th and 12th was from his corner telling him not to engage, but I think he actually got caught with something in the 9th that left him wanting to avoid the punches (maybe even dazed him a little) so that's why he kept moving Anyway, I scored it 9-3 (I gave Tito the 9th, and Oscar the 10th) If maybe I messed scoring the 10th cause it seems most people scored that for Tito, than I can't see better than 8-4 Oscar... But you guys already knew that one Anyway, its just been a while since I've talked to anyone on here about older fights (Everything now is GGG, Ward, Floyd, and Manny and I'm bored with that) so I just wanted to possibly open this discussion again When's the last time u guys saw this fight and did anything change from the first time?

Comments (20)

Lords

Just finished the second half of the fight. I had it 3-3 after 6 rounds and Tito winning rounds 9-10-11-12 in the second half. People who say DLH put on a boxing display and dominated the fight need to get there vision checked. Oscar was on his bike from round 1 and didnt do enough to win the fight, its plan and simple. Jim Lampley is pathetic and clearly a bias commentator. He did nothing but praise DLH throughout the entire fight. DLH would get combinations blocked by Tito and Jim starts screaming like their landing. Tito lands his biggest shots in the 12th and Jim says absolutely nothing about them. Coward.

12y ago

baya

just rewatched it and there was a ton of filler in there from the broadcast team. at one point in the 5th round i think oscar misses 3 jabs while tito connects a right and lamps loses his **** with "oscar lands a triple jab!" lol oscar started this fight off running and it was a pathetic outing by him that robbed us of an awesome fight. tito swept the last 4 rounds for me as well as the 4th and 5th. the 1st and 3 could have also gone either way. some of you messicans complaining about mayweather running, watch this and know that this was the blueprint for what you hate most about mayweather's fighting style.

12y ago

JmH_Reborn

I tend to agree. But the rules of boxing are such that rounds are scored individually, as they happen. Therefore, if a fighter wins the first eight rounds of a twelve round fight, he should win even if he doesn't land a single blow for the remaining four. It's not my idea. Those are the rules. Well Oscar didn't win the first 8. I had it 6-2 for Oscar after 8. Then had Tito sweeping the last four for a draw. You could have given him 3 of the first 8. Oscar threw alot of pitty pat punches and Tito landed harder blows. I think Tito hurt him I think in the 5th. I'll have to watch it again and it changed Oscar's plans.

12y ago

CubanGuyNYC

the problem with watching this fight with the sound on is, if oscar broke wind, the audience would lose their collective ****. while even with giving away the last few rounds, i think oscar did enough to win the fight. of course, when you end a fight like that, you really don't deserve to win it. i would have scored it a draw out of spite for such *****assness from oscar, but tito didn't do enough to win. shoulda been a draw and their should have been a rematch. I tend to agree. But the rules of boxing are such that rounds are scored individually, as they happen. Therefore, if a fighter wins the first eight rounds of a twelve round fight, he should win even if he doesn't land a single blow for the remaining four. It's not my idea. Those are the rules.

12y ago

Lords

Alright, just rewatched the first 6 rounds. Oscar has been on his bike and peddling from round 1. Everytime Oscar throws his right and Tito blocks it, Jim says that it lands. After 6 rounds its clear that hes in favor of Oscar to win. Tito lands solid shots but doesnt get the screams like Oscar gets when he throws but doesnt connect. Reminds me of the Manny/Bradley fight. After 6 i have it 3-3. Will finish it later tonight.

12y ago

AntonTheMeh

His trainer Gill Glancy told Oscar he had the fight won in the tenth round and to just stay away from Trinidad for the last two rounds.I believe Oscar fired him after the fight. I love Trinidad but he lost the fight..That was a world championship fight and the judges punished Delahoya for running the last two rounds.I will say this from my observation...Delahoya would throw many flurries of punches at Trinidad but only one or two would land..it was an illusion..Delahoya was getting credit for punches he wasn't actually landing..the punches were short by about an inch or two..look closely.. totally. that's why when i rewatched it, i watched it with the sound off. tito should have been putting money in the bank with body shots early, and he would have ended it like chavez vs taylor.

12y ago

AntonTheMeh

12y ago

JmH_Reborn

I scored the fight a draw both times I saw it

12y ago

AgainstTheRopes

The best fight of Oscar's career. Its one of my favorite bouts to watch, an absolute masterful performance. Say what you want about Oscar fading in the end but if those inept judges scored rounds earlier in the fight that Oscar dominated for Tito then whose to say they wouldnt have given those rounds to Tito anyways?

12y ago

ElMeroChingon

like i said in the other thread. ODH shut Trnidad down in the championship rounds, beauyful boxing exibition, the way he moved his feet around the ring was a brilliant showcase of the sweet science, Trinidad couldn't get off all day. Easy work for Oscar, made him look like he didn't belong there.

12y ago

MrFantastic

Seen it a couple of times through the years. Oscar schooled Tito all the times. I just can't see how Tito would of won that fight.

12y ago

JDezi4

close fight,,, oscar started fast, but tito won the late rounds as oscar disengaged,,, it reminds me alot of manny-jmm 3,,, This is actually the opposite case... Manny won the early rounds (first 3 give or take) than JMM took over after that (for the most part) The whole JMM took his foot off the gas in the 12th round thing was HBO non-sense that people ran with Not unlike the whole "Oscar's corner told him not to engage" thing...

12y ago

IronDanHamza

when people say hoya ran the last 4 rounds so i guess baldomir beat mayweather because he ran for 12 rounds The difference is Mayweather threw punches and landed more punches in every round. Oscar literally did nothing but run in those last 4 rounds. Barely threw any punches and was outlanded. Not really comparable, to be honest.

12y ago

daggum

when people say hoya ran the last 4 rounds so i guess baldomir beat mayweather because he ran for 12 rounds

12y ago

Sweet_Pea_50

I remember watching this at my house with quite a few people. I had little mickey mouse bets, probably totaling around 50-75 dollars. On Tito. I was starting to pay up when the scorecards were called. I almost felt bad enough to not collect. But not that bad.

12y ago

Sugar_Adam_Ali

close fight,,, oscar started fast, but tito won the late rounds as oscar disengaged,,, it reminds me alot of manny-jmm 3,,,

12y ago

nickphilli

I hate how people say he didn't win the fight for the last 3 rounds..he clearly won the first 8 rounds..and it wasn't as though he wasnt throwing punches in the 9-11th rounds.. he still landed like 26 punches in the 10th round. In no way was that fight a win for Trinidad, it's funny because the same people that act like Floyd never "runs" are the ones saying Oscar "ran" it's called boxing smart, as long as he is still landing punches it is not running.

12y ago

Ringlife

I thought Oscar De La Hoya won this fight 8 rounds to 4 but when he ran in the last 3 rounds. He didn't deserve to win this fight at least a draw would have been the better out come.

12y ago

stefjonno1

I've only watched it once, live, and i remember Oscar was winning the fight but blew the last several rounds coasting, so no sympathy from me. Close fight though, but no robbery. No comparison with the Mani-Bradley fight, that was a Dick turpin robbery.

12y ago

soul_survivor

this decision was way worse than Pac vs Bradley. I think they're on par. Gave Bradley barely 4 rounds too, how he got the decision was just as crazy, maybe worse considering Pac kept the pressure up for all 12 rounds.

12y ago