so according to all the Floyd haters , he only fights flat footed, weight drained opponents or hand picked guys he knows he can beat. Who do you want to see him fight that would satisfy all you haters ?
Stop. Pacs opponents played into his style mostly
You are misreading what i have written. Yes, Pac is defined by who he fights. What i am saying is that Mayweather more skills than Manny, but Manny made the most of what he has. Mayweather could have gone on to such higher heights, ppl would laugh off a comparison between him and Mayweather.
As a Mayweather fan, i can say of his recent fights, i found myself frustrated at him for not closing in for the kill and finish off his opponents the way he's used to when he has them hurt or frustrated. His combinations used to be deadly and fluid. Now, not sure if its age, but he seems to be holding back. Pac gives you a 100% every time, while Mayweather gives u about 75-80%.
You are wrong and not evening talking about the period i was talking about
who was ghost, bruscles, gatti, ndou, sosa, ortiz best wins,,,,
ghost and ortiz career defining win is f'n berto LMAO
So your best win doesnt mean jack squat
and your getting your time frames messed up,, you qouted my talking about 07-09 when GBP and TR were working together and making shane-cotto, margs-shane, oscar-manny, manny-hatton, etc
Margs was def a name since cotto and shane both fought him,,
Where was floyd when all the big fights were being made,,, bogus retirement
I hope that clears it up for you,, I hope you can understand the difference between the time frames,,,
Who cares about Guerero and Ortiz I sure as hell don't. Not every fighter can be an ATG
and he fought de la hoya in may 07,, and then retired but cameback to drag hatton up to welter, then retired again
that whole time margs, cotto, shane, were all fighting each other,, and floyd was on the sidelines, and then once everyone was done beating each other up,, floyd comes back like a vulture and gets the scraps and idiots cant even comprehend this
Scraps? Mosley declined a fight in 2006 wanting more time. Floyd then signed to fight Oscarr instead. Do you blame him?
at 135 he fought the lineal champion Castillo in his 1st fight there
at 140 Gatti was the #1 contender..and Hattons people turned the fight down so did Cotto's
at 147 he has beaten the lineal champion 2 times(mosley.baldo)
Guerrero-#2
Zab-#3
Ortiz-#2
so what are you talking about??
when he fought ortiz-bradley was not at 147,margo was suspended or retired,manny you know the story with that and cotto fight happened after ortiz
none of that has anything to do with what i posted, so what are you talking about, larrbear?
and he fought de la hoya in may 07,, and then retired but cameback to drag hatton up to welter, then retired again
that whole time margs, cotto, shane, were all fighting each other,, and floyd was on the sidelines, and then once everyone was done beating each other up,, floyd comes back like a vulture and gets the scraps and idiots cant even comprehend this
Good post. Did he think beating Hatton made him the GOAT?
Floyd has the skills he just doesn't want to test them
F10m0s: Floyd will whoop PAC like this and that and it ain't even funny:
Floyd: If I get seriously hurt Y'all just going to move on to the next, my health come first. Call me a scared fighter I don't care, why would you want to watch a scared fighter in me. I'm a coward but just remember that I'm a rich coward.
F10m0s: Floyd will whoop PAC :lol1:.
Lmfao this was good; and the sad part is it's true. Floyd Sr and Junior must see something that they want no part of in Pacquiao. His hands are just as quick OR quicker than Floyd's. He hits harder, his foot work is as good or better than Floyd's and Floyd could never put punches together like Pacquiao does.
Fighting Delahoya, obviously. Margarito wasn't **** in 05-06. Who was his best win? Cintron? lol
and he fought de la hoya in may 07,, and then retired but cameback to drag hatton up to welter, then retired again
that whole time margs, cotto, shane, were all fighting each other,, and floyd was on the sidelines, and then once everyone was done beating each other up,, floyd comes back like a vulture and gets the scraps and idiots cant even comprehend this
Fighting Delahoya, obviously. Margarito wasn't **** in 05-06. Who was his best win? Cintron? lol
You are wrong and not evening talking about the period i was talking about
who was ghost, bruscles, gatti, ndou, sosa, ortiz best wins,,,,
ghost and ortiz career defining win is f'n berto LMAO
So your best win doesnt mean jack squat
and your getting your time frames messed up,, you qouted my talking about 07-09 when GBP and TR were working together and making shane-cotto, margs-shane, oscar-manny, manny-hatton, etc
Margs was def a name since cotto and shane both fought him,,
Where was floyd when all the big fights were being made,,, bogus retirement
I hope that clears it up for you,, I hope you can understand the difference between the time frames,,,
Floyd only fights champions and top contenders in the divisions he fights in.
The best two welterweights other than Floyd are Pacquiou and Bradley. He should fight those two.
the most obvious fact that proves floyd ducks out of big fights, is that when GPB and TR were working together making hatton-manny, manny-oscar, margs-shane, cotto-shane,, etc where was floyd??????
Fighting Delahoya, obviously. Margarito wasn't **** in 05-06. Who was his best win? Cintron? lol
floyd the fraud is scared to death and so concern about his health fighting pac. i’d say his hood rat fans are totally in agreement with the fraud. :dunno:
140-cotto and hattons people refused to fight floyd
True, but what about everyone else,,, was bruscles and gatti the best options, no they were not
147-he left top rank so thats why he fought no top rank fighters...shane refused to fight him,williams was a prospect and he fought an undefeated hatton who won a title at 147
Hatton was given a title at 147, collazo got robbed, thats why hatton went straight back down to 140, he knew he was crap at welter,,
Shane refused from 99-06,, but after floyd beat oscar and became the biggest $$$ draw in the sport, shane wanted to fight, but floyd was in retirement and then shane fought cotto, and floyd comes out of retirement to fight hatton at welter,,,
And you know what,, at the time GPB and TR were working together and gave us great fights like jmm-manny 2, cotto-shane, manny-hatton, margs-shane, etc yet when there was no promotional war and all the big fights could be made, where is floyd,, another bogus retirement
you can try to rewrite history all you want but Floyd has faced the best in every division he has been to...shane was the lineal champion when floyd beat him and cotto was #1 at 154,oscar was a champ there and floyd had only 3 fights at 147 before moving to 154 to fight him..and Canelo was the damn ring champ and 14 years younger
I dont really ever begrudge floyd for his 154 fights,, its a division that he shouldnt even be in, yet his great skills allow him to succeed there,,
Oscar was a good win,, oscar was old, but to be the man you got to beat the man, and floyd did,, cotto was shot and old,, canelo was never that good,, I said floyd would win a wide UD and thats what happened,,,
Floyd doesnt fight the best of every division: the best welters since 06 were cotto, margs, manny, bradley, williams, floyd, and floyd hasnt fought one of them in their prime
the most obvious fact that proves floyd ducks out of big fights, is that when GPB and TR were working together making hatton-manny, manny-oscar, margs-shane, cotto-shane,, etc where was floyd??????
Fraud Gayrunner is ducking Kovalev to fight a washed up Martinez, a green weight drained Golovkin, an injured Ward and an old Hopkins. He's a rich coward who puts his health first.
What's sad about your post is that this is actually stuff that Floyd detractors would say. From the corny nickname to the bashing of his opponents :lol1:
castillo was legit,,, but afterwards he didnt defend vs worthy fighters, sosa and ndou should not have been in front of guys like spadafora, johnston, casamoyer, freitas at the time
140- gatti was a champ,,, so was hatton, tszyu, cotto, witter, maussa, harris, actually the division was loaded at the time, and with floyd we get corley, gatti, bruscles, shambra--
147- zab and baldomir was legit, but then defended vs hatton who was garbage at 147,, margs, williams, cotto, shane all battled it out and floyd is fighting hatton and retirement,,,
He cameback and finally fought old shane and cotto, with ortiz and ghost,, and please dont say ortiz and ghost were legit guys and should have gotten the fight,,, their best wins are berto,, and what was berto's best win,,, he never had one,,,
I really dont care about 154, floyd doesnt campaign there, so i have no issues with him no fighting lara, angulo etc,,, I dont count 154 even thoght floyd had nice wins there but oscar and cotto were old, and canelo just isnt that good, and it showed in the floyd fight....
140-cotto and hattons people refused to fight floyd
147-he left top rank so thats why he fought no top rank fighters...shane refused to fight him,williams was a prospect and he fought an undefeated hatton who won a title at 147
you can try to rewrite history all you want but Floyd has faced the best in every division he has been to...shane was the lineal champion when floyd beat him and cotto was #1 at 154,oscar was a champ there and floyd had only 3 fights at 147 before moving to 154 to fight him..and Canelo was the damn ring champ and 14 years younger
at 135 he fought the lineal champion Castillo in his 1st fight there
at 140 Gatti was the #1 contender..and Hattons people turned the fight down so did Cotto's
at 147 he has beaten the lineal champion 2 times(mosley.baldo)
Guerrero-#2
Zab-#3
Ortiz-#2
so what are you talking about??
when he fought ortiz-bradley was not at 147,margo was suspended or retired,manny you know the story with that and cotto fight happened after ortiz
castillo was legit,,, but afterwards he didnt defend vs worthy fighters, sosa and ndou should not have been in front of guys like spadafora, johnston, casamoyer, freitas at the time
140- gatti was a champ,,, so was hatton, tszyu, cotto, witter, maussa, harris, actually the division was loaded at the time, and with floyd we get corley, gatti, bruscles, shambra--
147- zab and baldomir was legit, but then defended vs hatton who was garbage at 147,, margs, williams, cotto, shane all battled it out and floyd is fighting hatton and retirement,,,
He cameback and finally fought old shane and cotto, with ortiz and ghost,, and please dont say ortiz and ghost were legit guys and should have gotten the fight,,, their best wins are berto,, and what was berto's best win,,, he never had one,,,
I really dont care about 154, floyd doesnt campaign there, so i have no issues with him no fighting lara, angulo etc,,, I dont count 154 even thoght floyd had nice wins there but oscar and cotto were old, and canelo just isnt that good, and it showed in the floyd fight....
Floyd has to choose which title he wants to keep.I am sure he will choose to keep his 147 pound title. If he fights the best welterweights that would be good enough for me. Khan is Mayweather's next opponent and I think it is his worst cherry pick. Khan has never defeated a welterweight in his life and he struggled with unranked Diaz in his last fight. If Khan has problems with Diaz how can he possibly beat Mayweather? I understand Floyd won't fight Pacquiao, or Bradley because they are with Top Rank and HBO. If Alexander beats Porter then Floyd could fight Alexander who would deserve a shot at Maywearher much more than Khan does. I would be happy with a Floyd-Alexander fight but Mayweather-Khan is a mismatch.
If Alexander wins impressively than I don't mind it
Atg?
"Floyds atg status?"
Floyd is a mere HOF'mer, not an ATG. He blew that long ago by not challenging himself against the very best. He hasn't had a significant win a long time. Cotto was suppose to be shot but we all know what happened in that fight. Canelo was drained and never looked so skinny. He lost that fight on the scales. The Ghost? What a joke fight that was. WHY would a fighter as talented as Floyd, take that fight? When is the last time he fought someone who actually had a chance to defeat him? Manny is an ATG and the best fighter of his era. Hands down. Floyd has no balls my friend.
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