"When Rios wins I prove that I was more valuable to Team Pac than Roach was" - Ariza

Damn that chest kicking homo got ownred

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So that's what Ariza been dealing with it seems

I'm really sick of this guy. He's so damn full of himself. To question what Roach has done for Pacquiao is absurd. Ariza is useless and a distraction, and that's exactly why he isn't working for Pacquiao anymore.

This inflated view of his importance is why he isn't in pacs camp anymore

Oh, of course. I am not trying to knock on Pacquiao's talent and skill level at all... I am a Pacquiao fan, IMO he is the best fighter of our generation. But I meant that his WW run, which to me is one of the most impressive things I have seen in history (taking on every top WW in the division, guys who Floyd had ducked for years), had a lot to do with proper conditioning to go up in weight perfectly and do serious damage to guys who had been at the weight for years. That's where I was coming from. Ariza did a great job in making the Pacman go up in weight in a great way and take his skills and talent and make them WW (heck even JRMW) effective. agreed... I do think Ariza needs to reign it in though. He doesn't get all the credit for a Rios win here.

As Manny Steward said, "Ariza's a nut"

There are some skinny boxers who can take punches, and some muscular ones who can't so your conditioning means jack all. Look at that huge ass ex football player Seth Mitchell dude has a frail chin you jab him and he is wobbling.

When did Ariza become a boxing trainer?:thinking:

if Rios wins, it just proves that Pac is shot, and that's all it proves This^^^^^^^ No way should Pac lose to Rios....I respect Bam but c'mon man....if Pac can't beat him, then it's curtains for the Pac show....Boyz II Men end of the road type done!!

There are some skinny boxers who can take punches, and some muscular ones who can't so your conditioning means jack all. Look at that huge ass ex football player Seth Mitchell dude has a frail chin you jab him and he is wobbling.

Can't wait for Pac to ko Rios now.

Sounds like Ariza's ego is still running wild, it's amazing that Pac was able to succeed with Roach and Ariza bickering all the time. Was just getting ready to say that his ego likely got him cut from Pac's camp.

so if rios loses, then that means that he wasn't valuable at all? lol he he he he he......... no need to sy more....

What ??? Lol your ability to take a shot and stay on your fight might have a little to do with conditioning ... Smh. He got perfectly timed while launching his whole body forward, no amount of conditioning can prevent a KO under those conditions. I guess Williams, who had crazy stamina, wasn't well conditioned when he got stretched by Martinez? You're showing your ignorance.

What ??? Lol your ability to take a shot and stay on your fight might have a little to do with conditioning ... Smh. look at James Toney, and there are other boxers who were in **** condition that could take punches. Pacman is done. His chin is cracked your chin is never the same when you get put out cold.

Manny looked better than he did in years in the 4th Marquez fight when he stopped listening to Ariza. Yeah he got KO'd but that has nothing to do with conditioning, Ariza is one of the most overrated people in boxing period. What ??? Lol your ability to take a shot and stay on your fight might have a little to do with conditioning ... Smh.

Why ppl kept saying Manny looked better in the 4th fight? Manny has always been Manny. It all depends on the competition infront of him. Dude knocked down twice in his last fight, the second time he wasn't able to get up. He was having success prior to the stoppage, but let's not forget the history of the previous bouts with Marquez; they have always been back and forth action, with either men having their moment of success. Pac's career has always been defined by who is infront of him. Why do u think that when his lights dim, they chose Rios instead of Alvarado? They wanted someone to stand infront of him and take hits. Freddie already said he doesn't put Pac in with ppl if he thinks Pac doesn't stand a chance, because his job as a trainer is to protect him. Someone even said Pac got careless and ran into a punch. Is this a joke? Pac has always been careless and reckless; that's always been his style, and it is what made him a superstar, but a smart technician will always exploit that style, one such as Marquez. Pac will always be Pac, loses to technical fighters and destroys come forward brawlers. Not over the hill or past it either, and I am looking forward to the destruction of Rios, for it will be real entertaining. Of course how good a fighter looks depends a lot on the opponent, but conditioning wise he looked much more explosive in the 4th Marquez fight than he did in the 3rd. And Manny has beaten several technicians that weren't past it like Barrera and Ledwaba. If you look at the first knock down, Manny clearly saw the punch coming, but was unable to stay on his feet because of the force of the punch. He saw it coming but moved his hand at the last moment : http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/4417384/data/pacquiao-gets-knocked-out-data.gif Marquez hurt Pacquiao before, this is nothing new. Here he nearly dropped him in the 2nd fight : http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2553674/marquez-vs-pacquiao-2-o.gif

I don't think he was. "He would actually fight HARDER as the fight wore on, while his opponents tired. He looked like a little machine." True BUT Manny's stamina has always been incredible. He's been throwing and throwing and throwing since he was a teenager. If you look at how he's built, you understand that his power comes from his legs and calf-muscles. Another thing to note, who did Manny stretch out with one shot who was bigger than him? Nobody. He wore out opponents with stamina, will, and pure violent nature in the ring. Those who question whether or not he was on something need to dig a little deeper. He stretched out Hatton because Hatton was his size and not the best defender. Mark my words, if Rios isn't careful, he will get stretched based on how Manny is looking. His body is tighter and looks identical to when he fought Cotto, Margarito, and Oscar. It's much tighter than most recent fights. As far as testing goes. VADA is more comprehensive than OST has EVER been my friend. They don't just stop with urine and blood. It's hair samples, saliva samples, and 365-24-7. So all the Floyd riders can take that! The reason why the Floyd fight never happened is because, Floyd doesn't like to challenge himself against the best. He KNEW what he'd be facing in Manny. Never has another top fighter of his era, accused another top fighter of being on "something" to avoid facing them in the ring. Manny basically told Floyd, hey, you're not the commission and last time I checked, I am the number one fighter in boxing; which Manny clearly was at the time. You simply cannot act like an immature child and expect a fight of that magnitude to get done. Floyd is just a HOF'mer and nothing more because he doesn't take risk against guys who ACTUALLY have a chance when the bell rings. It's his own fault. His fans can get mad all they want because the truth does hurt.