P.R boxing has hit rock bottom , right?
Cant go nowhere but up. Who do we have? Who puts us on the map again? We have some promising prospects though. Who do you think is the next elite champ. Any of our up and coming fighters have a chance or are they not good enough to reach stardom.
Pedraza
Velez
Verdejo
Arroyo brothers (any news from them)
"Bomba" (can he rebound and make noise)
Dulorme
The Velasquez brothers I thought would have made more noise by now.
Am I missing any?
You make a good argument. I don't buy every single point, but I think they have some merit. In the end, there are probably several factors contributing to the current situation. I think my explanation is at least one factor. Your last line (funny as hell, by the way) is telling. There could simply be a cultural shift on the island, where the younger generation is more interested in other pursuits. But, once again, this is permitted by a higher level of affluence. Partying requires disposable income.
You have the wrong idea of what P.R's current situation is. Solely based on being a U.S territory.
Danny Garcia is American, he represents the USA when you see his name on boxrec, not Puerto Rico.
He's Puerto Rican-American, wtf is so hard for u ppl to understand???
I dont see puerto rico doing nothing anytime soon.It may be years
till someone comes up for the ricans.Tho this is a perfect time for
danny to try to get these fans love.
Ppl fail to understand that plenty of Puerto Ricans have end riding with Danny since he beat morales is their first fight. Aside from him, we will be ight.... We won't have a bunch of guys killing it at once but we will always have somebody.
Da boxer provided a very good article. I don't think being a territory is the cause.
I think people make a mistake when looking at our situation. It's not necessarily that most Latin countries don't have it "as good" as P.R , I think it's more of we don't have it "as bad". I hope I'm not confusing you with that because there is a difference. It's like my friend tells me , Cuba es uno de los paises Latinos mas cultos y educados. La educacion es gratis , No? Creo que hasta la universidad. Y atencion medica? Aunque me han dicho que tampoco es como lo pintan , en el caso de la atencion medica. That's a huge advantage , pero despues vienen y te pagan una miseria. Y los precios de los alimentos en P.R son a veces hasta mas carros que aca , y tambien la gente gana menos. So no necesaria mente el ser territorio estadounidense tiene a P.R como creen muchos. 2 + 2 en este caso no es simplemente 4.
Anyways , one thing that was not mentioned in the article , maybe it will be left for the two parts coming , it's how the youth in P.R is pretty much not interested in sports any more the way we used to be. And I'm witness to that. Whenever I go over there it's hard as **** for me to get my cousing to a basketball court or into a baseball field. When I left , that was my love. And every chance you had you were doing it. And what's actually surprising to me is that when I do get a group out to play either baseball or basketball people are actually quite good at sports. And boxing being such a different sport because it depends on you and you alone to put in the work.
Now if I tell my cousins to go to a club or get some beer or play some pool they'll be out in the car waiting for me before I can even finish saying it.
You make a good argument. I don't buy every single point, but I think they have some merit. In the end, there are probably several factors contributing to the current situation. I think my explanation is at least one factor. Your last line (funny as hell, by the way) is telling. There could simply be a cultural shift on the island, where the younger generation is more interested in other pursuits. But, once again, this is permitted by a higher level of affluence. Partying requires disposable income.
Angel Garcia is PR's boxing future. He will carry the flag with pride. Danny is PR's king. He's top 10 p4p and doesn't look to lose anytime soon, barring a mayweather matchup.
Danny Garcia is American, he represents the USA when you see his name on boxrec, not Puerto Rico.
I think this is a good point. Puerto Rico, being a U.S. territory, enjoys a lot of privileges that most Latin-American countries do not. Boxing is traditionally a poor man's sport. You rarely, if ever, hear of a fighter from a middle-class background. As a land becomes more affluent, its people will move away from certain pursuits. When you consider how small P.R.'s population is to begin with, it's no wonder her athletic pool has become smaller. That being said, P.R. has a long, proud boxing culture. As long as that culture remains alive, a champion will rise.
(By the way, bro...love the avi!)
Da boxer provided a very good article. I don't think being a territory is the cause.
I think people make a mistake when looking at our situation. It's not necessarily that most Latin countries don't have it "as good" as P.R , I think it's more of we don't have it "as bad". I hope I'm not confusing you with that because there is a difference. It's like my friend tells me , Cuba es uno de los paises Latinos mas cultos y educados. La educacion es gratis , No? Creo que hasta la universidad. Y atencion medica? Aunque me han dicho que tampoco es como lo pintan , en el caso de la atencion medica. That's a huge advantage , pero despues vienen y te pagan una miseria. Y los precios de los alimentos en P.R son a veces hasta mas carros que aca , y tambien la gente gana menos. So no necesaria mente el ser territorio estadounidense tiene a P.R como creen muchos. 2 + 2 en este caso no es simplemente 4.
Anyways , one thing that was not mentioned in the article , maybe it will be left for the two parts coming , it's how the youth in P.R is pretty much not interested in sports any more the way we used to be. And I'm witness to that. Whenever I go over there it's hard as **** for me to get my cousing to a basketball court or into a baseball field. When I left , that was my love. And every chance you had you were doing it. And what's actually surprising to me is that when I do get a group out to play either baseball or basketball people are actually quite good at sports. And boxing being such a different sport because it depends on you and you alone to put in the work.
Now if I tell my cousins to go to a club or get some beer or play some pool they'll be out in the car waiting for me before I can even finish saying it.
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good read. I would add that kids on the island have opted to use their minds instead of their fists to make a living. Options are available the same cannot be said about the current countries producing a lot of prospects. I liken it to Dominicans and the MLB.
I think this is a good point. Puerto Rico, being a U.S. territory, enjoys a lot of privileges that most Latin-American countries do not. Boxing is traditionally a poor man's sport. You rarely, if ever, hear of a fighter from a middle-class background. As a land becomes more affluent, its people will move away from certain pursuits. When you consider how small P.R.'s population is to begin with, it's no wonder her athletic pool has become smaller. That being said, P.R. has a long, proud boxing culture. As long as that culture remains alive, a champion will rise.
(By the way, bro...love the avi!)
Indeed the rivalry has been one sided. I have given credit because its due. But just don't agree with that blanket statement that dude made as the cause of our decline currently being attributable to anything Mexico has done. It is more about what we haven't done.
Attempting to claim that we aint never gonna be back is as asinine as what anything that piss whip and his homeboys spew day in and day out...so i agree bro. we hurting but like just like in the MLB, we are declining there allegedly as well but then recently we had the #1 pick.. so i aint worry bro. Verdero has good signs on his him.. "big Paws on that puppy"
dude, we're fukn here (fingers stretched on hand whilst circling face).
my intimation is this, you're a better man for accepting a truth about the current state of boricua boxing more so than these select mexican cats that are blatantly without class (guas dat, guey?) whom swear they're actually the ones in the ring doing the fighting :rofl: and getting these dubs for mexico.
viva mexico mf'ers. pero esperen, que ya llegara nuestro gallo a repartir galletas otra ves.
nah bro, you're making it more cumbersome than it really is. mexico has handed us our asses for the last 10 years in devastating fashion. our wins against mexican champs have been too sporadic to rest on.
but, we got some good talent coming up the ranks and like everything else in life ... things go in phases. i mean, me? i'd a thought being a mexican boxing fan in mid to late 90's would have sucked when we had our boy tito doing the damn thing. that man single handedly handed mexico their ass.
but just like that atrociously fat ******, pistol whip, alluded to up there - what's pr done lately.
.... :dunno:
Indeed the rivalry has been one sided. I have given credit because its due. But just don't agree with that blanket statement that dude made as the cause of our decline currently being attributable to anything Mexico has done. It is more about what we haven't done.
Attempting to claim that we aint never gonna be back is as asinine as what anything that piss whip and his homeboys spew day in and day out...so i agree bro. we hurting but like just like in the MLB, we are declining there allegedly as well but then recently we had the #1 pick.. so i aint worry bro. Verdero has good signs on his him.. "big Paws on that puppy"
Nah man Mexico aint got shiet to do with it. seriously? U got two Boriquas from your block who are standing tall for us. So I think your comment is way off base.
Boxing in general has made the transition to the 21st century in all facets of the game including questionable supplements supplementing the surge. hopefully our prospects resist the urge to take short cuts and beginning inhaling miracle shakes that increase their strength exponentially!!
nah bro, you're making it more cumbersome than it really is. mexico has handed us our asses for the last 10 years in devastating fashion. our wins against mexican champs have been too sporadic to rest on.
but, we got some good talent coming up the ranks and like everything else in life ... things go in phases. i mean, me? i'd a thought being a mexican boxing fan in mid to late 90's would have sucked when we had our boy tito doing the damn thing. that man single handedly handed mexico their ass.
but just like that atrociously fat ******, pistol whip, alluded to up there - what's pr done lately.
.... :dunno:
Way too many disteactors in the island. Really, there are few and far the ones who are really dedicated to the sport. La jodeera, el pariseo, all the ganster wana be and much more are killing the sport of boxing.
As a matter of fact today, El Nuevo dia pulished a three part article outlining the or at least some of the reasons on why PR boxing in the way its right now. Great read!
It talks about boxer and trainer diversity, were the are not seeking better opposition in the amateurs other than just Dominican, no European or USA, very limited experience with the traineers who are not seeking to expand thier knowhow by spending time in mexico, cuba, usa, etc.
It talks about management teams/promotional companies not looking out for the boxers only want to make money. Not developing the guys right, etc.
Great article, I recomend it.
As far as the future hold, Im counting on Verdejo! Kidd has potential but Im NOT convinced by his unknown trineer with ZERO profesional exerience.
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good read. I would add that kids on the island have opted to use their minds instead of their fists to make a living. Options are available the same cannot be said about the current countries producing a lot of prospects. I liken it to Dominicans and the MLB.
Pedraza doesn't impress me at all. I don't see the star quality in his skills
son, then watch more. dude is the a stud in there. him and omar figueroa ... damn maing :wank:
Mexico killed Puerto Rican boxing.... And that's coming from a Rican.
Nah man Mexico aint got shiet to do with it. seriously? U got two Boriquas from your block who are standing tall for us. So I think your comment is way off base.
Boxing in general has made the transition to the 21st century in all facets of the game including questionable supplements supplementing the surge. hopefully our prospects resist the urge to take short cuts and beginning inhaling miracle shakes that increase their strength exponentially!!
Way too many disteactors in the island. Really, there are few and far the ones who are really dedicated to the sport. La jodeera, el pariseo, all the ganster wana be and much more are killing the sport of boxing.
As a matter of fact today, El Nuevo dia pulished a three part article outlining the or at least some of the reasons on why PR boxing in the way its right now. Great read!
It talks about boxer and trainer diversity, were the are not seeking better opposition in the amateurs other than just Dominican, no European or USA, very limited experience with the traineers who are not seeking to expand thier knowhow by spending time in mexico, cuba, usa, etc.
It talks about management teams/promotional companies not looking out for the boxers only want to make money. Not developing the guys right, etc.
Great article, I recomend it.
As far as the future hold, Im counting on Verdejo! Kidd has potential but Im NOT convinced by his unknown trineer with ZERO profesional exerience.
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Source: El Nuevo Dia
http://www.elnuevodia.com/sequiaboxisticaconmuchascausas-1642442.html
Anybody can demolish anybody with cement in their wraps. Ask Hopkins what happened! Lmfao. The dude was a cheat. After he got exposed by B Hop, Triniwraps was useless.
Btw, PR Boxing is dead! How many champions do you have??? Lmfao.
I just owned you like Mikey owned Martinez & Juan Maricas. Shaooooooo!:boxing:
Lets also not forget that those fights were back in the fuking 90's!!! Seriously bringing up Tito from 20 years ago is so pathetic!!! What have you done for me lately Puerto Rico????
Well if Cotto can beat Canelo or Martinez, then clearly that helps out PR boxing. Verdejo is a serious prospect, and it appears that TR is grooming him to be the next Cotto.
What do you think about Pedraza?
Well if Cotto can beat Canelo or Martinez, then clearly that helps out PR boxing. Verdejo is a serious prospect, and it appears that TR is grooming him to be the next Cotto.
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