Tim Bradley is not elite

HAHA, I bet this is some Floyd dick sucker/JMM dick sucker, that wants to either discredit Manny's "win", or talk **** about Bradley, because he beat JMM. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/353/419/c83.jpg It be a ******* too. LOL

Just look at his record it tells the story much better than clueless posts on a boxing forum, his win column is a who's who of fighters at the weight divisions that he has competed in over a good few years now. With the exception of Floyd he has beaten everyone of note., I agree that he was lucky against Manny, but then again i thought Floyd was lucky against Castillo it doesnt change the fact he is undefeated. When he stops beating top men fight after fight then i will say he is not elite anymore. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

Just look at his record it tells the story much better than clueless posts on a boxing forum, his win column is a who's who of fighters at the weight divisions that he has competed in over a good few years now. With the exception of Floyd he has beaten everyone of note., I agree that he was lucky against Manny, but then again i thought Floyd was lucky against Castillo it doesnt change the fact he is undefeated. When he stops beating top men fight after fight then i will say he is not elite anymore.

Tim Bradley is the Tom Brady of boxing. There really isn't anything special about Brady. He doesn't have the best arm, he isn't the fastest qb, he isn't the most accurate. All he does is win. Same with Bradley. The only fighters I see beating Bradley around his weight class are Floyd Mayweather and possible Manny Pacquiao. In fact I would be shocked if Bradley rematches and beats Manny. He beats Provi***ov with ease 11 rounds to 1 or even a shutout. He easily beats Guerrero, Khan, Ortiz, Thurman and Berto. The only other guy I can see beating him, besides Floyd and Manny is Danny Garcia. So to be in the hottest division, and be one of the best is not "elite".....then I think you need to re-evaluate your definition of elite.

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It's called intangibles. He's very elite.

To the original TS. If you feel Bradley isn't elite then you should re-evaluate your opinion on him. I've been a Bradley fan since the witter fight. He has no power but is very entertaining IMO. He tries, he's got the will to win. He's small but he trains hard and can actually box. Rewatch the Peterson fight, he schooled the **** outta him. Peterson then went on to beat Khan. I get it, people are still sour from the pacman fight which he in my opinion, lost clearly. What more do you want from a man who puts everything he's got in the ring. Eff the haters

The way some people are acting on here, you'd think I've insulted their family or something. I've backed up everything I've said, if you disagree with it, fine. No need to try and be patronising without actually backing your points up though, if you've got nothing sensible/reasonable to say, stay in the playground. Like I said, I'm not judging him based on resume alone, I'm going by talent and what I've seen of him in general. He hasn't got any overly impressive wins on his resume other than Marqeuz anyway, so people need to stop acting like he's beaten all the top guns at 140/147. I understand a lot of good fights against the best can't be made cos of network/promotion rivalries though.

I see people including him in their top P4P lists, what I don't understand is, why? He's not even one of the top 10 at 140/147 let alone top 10 P4P. He's a solid fighter with a bit of everything, but he's not outstanding in any area. He's got heart and determination as well as good athleticism, but he hasn't got any specific boxing qualities that stand out. He's not a 'slick' boxer contrary to popular belief, he mixes it up and shows a bit of everything like I said, but the likes of Ward, Mayweather, Lara, Rigo are 'slick' and naturally gifted 'boxers', they're streets ahead of a pretender like Bradley. http://gifs.gifbin.com/092010/1285147501_maru-in-a-box.gif

Whatever you say chump, Ortiz will destroy Bradley and you know that s*** is true, Bradley is damaged goods, he's already shortened his career after the pasting he received from Provodnikov. Ortiz will 'Berto' his ass, matter of fact he's coming back to 'Berto' all these hypejobs one by one. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/4884411/ortiz-quits-o.gif GIFSoup

Ok, I just don't understand how people say the Pac-Bradley fight was a whitewash. Even if you gave all the rounds to Manny it still was close. I thought Pac won by a wide margin until I watched the fight again. I was stuck on rounds 4 and 6 for the whole fight. Then I watched it again and I see how they could've gave it to Bradley. Round 1-Did Pac dominate? Absolutely not. Round 2-Did Pac dominate? Absolutely not/ Round 3-Did Pac dominate? It appeared that way live, but Bradley twisted his ankle. Round 4-Pac dominated Round 5-Did Pac dominate? Round 6-Pac dominated Rounds 7-12 Pac didn't dominate...(Pac didn't win rounds 10-12 at all) This,Pac dominate is the most stupidest thing I've heard..I did not think Pac dominated live,and I damn sure did not think he dominated when watching it back.. This is what domination looks like..

Lol at you guys even responding to keep it objective. Dude has a new fav fighter every week. Tim is too mentally strong for Ortiz. Ortiz woulda quit vs PAC and ruslan. Prob woulda offed himself if he got death threats like tim

Come on mate, don't get daft on me. Boxing is only subjective to a point. That fight was not subjective. One guy won, the other lost. It's that simple. We all know a close fight when we see it. We all know a robbery too. That fight was only one of those. Never heard that last line in reference to me before. :lol1: Anyway, my point had nothing to do with the rest of your post. It was the highlighted line....hence me highlighting that part and not the rest of your post. Difficult concept I know. Whatever else you said, Bradley, in the reality of boxing as a sport outside all the political BS, is not undefeated. He clearly lost a fight. Unless you need to go by three peoples view over your own. But then, if you can't make up your own mind, why not use the 3 vs 53 unofficial scorers? Make that 5 vs 53 if you want to include the judges too. Or if you need further clarification check out the 250 or so score cards collected with only 6, from memory, having the fight a draw or a Bradley win, and that also includes the above 5 in those. That's all mate. No ones getting their panties moist here. I think. If you can't think for yourself, fine, but don't just go blindly with BS decisions. What's next, Casamayor in reality actually beat Santa Cruz? Boxing is always subjective,end of story..You can't change rules to fit your agenda.. Like I said are you saying the dean of judges was paid off to give the fight to Bradley??Seems very unlikely..Bradley fought to a close fight with Pac,that's what I saw..It's also what a few others saw..Close minded fools believe that there is only one way to see this fight..Which is a one-sided win for Pac..Which is funny within it self..

Pac vs Bradley Ok, I just don't understand how people say the Pac-Bradley fight was a whitewash. Even if you gave all the rounds to Manny it still was close. I thought Pac won by a wide margin until I watched the fight again. I was stuck on rounds 4 and 6 for the whole fight. Then I watched it again and I see how they could've gave it to Bradley. Round 1-Did Pac dominate? Absolutely not. Round 2-Did Pac dominate? Absolutely not/ Round 3-Did Pac dominate? It appeared that way live, but Bradley twisted his ankle. Round 4-Pac dominated Round 5-Did Pac dominate? Round 6-Pac dominated Rounds 7-12 Pac didn't dominate...(Pac didn't win rounds 10-12 at all)

I see people including him in their top P4P lists, what I don't understand is, why? He's not even one of the top 10 at 140/147 let alone top 10 P4P. He's a solid fighter with a bit of everything, but he's not outstanding in any area. He's got heart and determination as well as good athleticism, but he hasn't got any specific boxing qualities that stand out. He's not a 'slick' boxer contrary to popular belief, he mixes it up and shows a bit of everything like I said, but the likes of Ward, Mayweather, Lara, Rigo are 'slick' and naturally gifted 'boxers', they're streets ahead of a pretender like Bradley. Bradley's won over Marquez is greater than Mayweather's win over Canelo... Nuff said. Bradley will beat Mayweather if they fight. Mayweather is not getting beat with power Mosley, Cotto, Ortiz, and Canelo proved that... So cut the Bradley don't have power bs... Mayweather will lose via skills only and Bradley has the skills to beat Mayweather

Tim is elite as is Pacman and JMM, but Ward and Floyd are in the absolute upper echelon of the sport.

Quit hating hater. Bradley is too ugly to get on dancing with the stars, he would reduce the ratings and lose the television companies money. Ortiz is more naturally gifted than Bradley why don't you see this? Naturally gifted = Things you are born with = Speed, POWER, strength, etc.... Bradley is a blown up jr welterweight, he cannot punch, Ortiz will walk him down and beat him easy work holmes. What I say is the truth, Ortiz would Berto Bradley. http://mediaserver.pulse2.com/uploads/2012/09/fail-gifs83.gif

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Whatever you say chump, Ortiz will destroy Bradley and you know that s*** is true, Bradley is damaged goods, he's already shortened his career after the pasting he received from Provodnikov. Ortiz will 'Berto' his ass, matter of fact he's coming back to 'Berto' all these hypejobs one by one. Naw man i don't think it's true... Maybe Ortiz should have earn a shot at bradley let him fight providnokov first. I'm sure he'll light some candles for him! Provo by brutal ko round 1

Some of the posters here are on that ish lol. Timmeh could miraculously ko GGG and he'd still get no props.