Has this ever been done in boxing and if so why not ?
Im no mma fan but im sure everone here has seen the famous KO where the guy gets hit in the body, bends over and nearly goes down, only to one shot his opponent with a huge right hand as he rushes in for the kill.
Now ive always thought that in boxing, if you're a big puncher fighting a boxer who takes no risks and you're being outboxed and way behind on the cards why would you try this tactic ?
For example Haye v Wlad or Canelo v May.
Once it gets to round 9-10 there no way to win other than KO and your opponent isnt going to make a mistake, they are happy to just play it safe and win on points.
Why not take a shot and do the chicken dance back to the ropes and woble there only to come out firing with KO punches.
Every fighter wants a KO even the defensive careful ones, its human nature to rush in for the kill when your opponent is wobbled and this could be the only way to get them to let their guard down.
If your gonna lose anyway whats the harm in trying ?
Anthony Bonsante :
LMAO... wow
I can see the value in pretending to be hurt to make your opponent more careless, but don't lay on the canvas and close your eyes, man!
I remember Renaldo Snipes playing hurt in a great fight against Lionel Washington. Snipes fell back into the ropes seemingly on queer Street. Washington moved in for the kill only for Snipes to unload a massive overhand right to send him through the ropes like a mailman posting a letter. :lol1:
That was on hell of a fight.
Lennox Lewis did it quite a few times. In MMA I remember Melvin Guillard played possum against Nate Diaz. But I think when somebody plays possum, he is probably hurt but not as much as he claims to be.
Has this ever been done in boxing and if so why not ?
Im no mma fan but im sure everone here has seen the famous KO where the guy gets hit in the body, bends over and nearly goes down, only to one shot his opponent with a huge right hand as he rushes in for the kill.
Now ive always thought that in boxing, if you're a big puncher fighting a boxer who takes no risks and you're being outboxed and way behind on the cards why would you try this tactic ?
For example Haye v Wlad or Canelo v May.
Once it gets to round 9-10 there no way to win other than KO and your opponent isnt going to make a mistake, they are happy to just play it safe and win on points.
Why not take a shot and do the chicken dance back to the ropes and woble there only to come out firing with KO punches.
Every fighter wants a KO even the defensive careful ones, its human nature to rush in for the kill when your opponent is wobbled and this could be the only way to get them to let their guard down.
If your gonna lose anyway whats the harm in trying ?
You are no mma fan?
Ok maybe not, but i am and i saw this same thread on S_H_E_R_D_O_G last week.
Funny how that happened.
Another thing: rarely does a fighter who is still standing (at least one who has made it to the upper levels of the game) concede to himself that he can't turn things around, that he can't land his best punch somehow and pull it out.
So while you and I may watch a fight on TV (or live) and by the late rounds say, "This guy has no chance," he probably isn't thinking that way. See that Mickey Ward-Sanchez fight or Mike Weaver-John Tate. He may know he's losing and needs a knockout, but it's doubtul that his mind is going to go to, "I can't land my right hand without tricking this guy. Hmmm. Maybe I'll act like I'm hurt ..."
Why someone wouldn't do it:
1) The ref may think he's legit hurt and unable to defend himself and stop the fight. And if he admitted after he was faking, he might also find his purse held up -- acting hurt when you're not is akin to quitting if the ref buys it and stops the fight.
2) Imagine trying to explain it after: "I wasn't really hurt by Wlad's jab that seemed to stagger me into near unconsciousness, I swear. I was trying to bait him." I can see the reax on forums like these: "Sure, chicken-dancer. Quit being an excuse-maker, man up and admit it."
Also, boxers are trained athletes. They do in the ring what they practice. Who practices faking hurt?
This guy on friday night fights, I think he was in the contendor. Pretended to get knocked out , the ref stopped the fight and then he jumped up and protested
Anthony Bonsante :
I think it would probably need to be updated for modern fights. How about pretending to be hurt by something illegal (say a headbutt), complaining to the referee, then when your opponent tries to hug and make up you hit him with a couple of cheap shots and knock him out.
Might work...
That would be tight. Has that really happened.....
I think it would probably need to be updated for modern fights. How about pretending to be hurt by something illegal (say a headbutt), complaining to the referee, then when your opponent tries to hug and make up you hit him with a couple of cheap shots and knock him out.
Might work...
emanuel agustus spent an entire career pretending to be silly.
Yep.
Don't forget the double punch hadouken as well.
http://www.b-ruce.com/20305Augustus_double_Punch.gif
Has this ever been done in boxing and if so why not ?
Im no mma fan but im sure everone here has seen the famous KO where the guy gets hit in the body, bends over and nearly goes down, only to one shot his opponent with a huge right hand as he rushes in for the kill.
Now ive always thought that in boxing, if you're a big puncher fighting a boxer who takes no risks and you're being outboxed and way behind on the cards why would you try this tactic ?
For example Haye v Wlad or Canelo v May.
Once it gets to round 9-10 there no way to win other than KO and your opponent isnt going to make a mistake, they are happy to just play it safe and win on points.
Why not take a shot and do the chicken dance back to the ropes and woble there only to come out firing with KO punches.
Every fighter wants a KO even the defensive careful ones, its human nature to rush in for the kill when your opponent is wobbled and this could be the only way to get them to let their guard down.
If your gonna lose anyway whats the harm in trying ?
Quality thread that makes for nice discussion mate. I've thought about this a few times before, specially after the Marquez KO of Pacquiao. Pac went in for the kill assuming he had Marquez hurt and out of nowhere there comes that devastating overhand right.
I think this would be an effective strategic move for some fighters, decide to act hurt to set up a nice counter shot (based on previous scouting of the opponent they're facing).
PS: Could someone share the video of the fight the OP mentioned? Would truly appreciate it.
Not sure if he was actually hurt or playing possum but you know when Nigel Benn was rocked with his back against the ropes he was just waiting to unleash some fury.
Boxer dont fall for that ***** anymore. I use to know when I was boxing as an amateur when my opponent hurt and am sure this pros would never go in for the kill unless they see in their opponents eyes that they are there for the takings.