A lot of people think Provodnikov is a dumb brawler with no skills, that he just comes forward and blocks punches with his face while swinging like a caveman. So here's a gif breakdown of his skills :
-General head movement-
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Very nice thread. I noticed the same thing... he might not be the most skillful at each of those area BUT they are part of his arsenal/game. Provo is definitely a problem for anyone and while beatable, a threat in ANY fight.
Provodnikov definitely has more skills than given credit for. Certainly more skilled then Rios, thats for sure.
Someone disagreed with me on this recently, believe it or not.
Ruslan has skills, its only the flowmos and racists who think otherwise.
They keep saying lies like all he do is get hit by shots? so every pressure fighter does, but they don't acknowledge his head movement and counters from inside and up close.
Rusland had to have skills when you fight in the amateurs and are successful you are not a scrub you have to adjust to certain styles to win he saw them all.
They REALLY emphasize balance in his conditioning which leads me to believe they're still just building on the basics. If he makes another improvement on the level of his jump from his ESPN days too the Alvarado fight we have a real interesting contender on our hands.
Provodnikov looked very good but he is still missing uppercuts from his arsenal
He does throw it every once in a while :
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and could throw combinations a little more frequently. I was begging for him to throw some uppercuts inside when Mike would square up leaned over but he never did and he still throws one or two punches the majority of the time. Whenever he puts 3 or more together guys just can't handle it and he needs to make that his default.
I think it has more to do with conditioning, in the Bradley fight he gave two rounds away because he punched himself out trying to get an early KO. He didn't even throw that many punches but he was still winded quickly, he needs to get his cardio up.
His footwork was very good, faster than people give him credit for, efficient at cutting off the ring and can get his punches off quickly after moving, pivoting, small angle re-adjustments and staying lighter on his feet.Roach has him doing alot of drills and excercises for his feet and it is paying dividends. You can see alot of them in this video.
Good video, those exercises are very interesting, never seen that before.
The thing I like the most was the pivoting to the side to create angles to land his hook. It kept working on alvarado. More boxers should use that but very few do
In none of those gifs did Ruslan ever bend below the belt, what are you complaining about, i dont get it
These two are pretty clear.
http://i.imgur.com/K2SLoGJ.jpg
A couple others are pushing it.
http://i.imgur.com/bFBVBfs.jpg
I don't see the strong distinction and why the length of time should matter. It's basically the equivalent of turning you back against the opponent either way, which leaves you vulnerable to getting hit on the back of the head and back. Just like holding, it's a pretty cheap way to hide from punches and halt the action.
Admittedly, last time I researched it I couldn't find the rule clearly spelled out for American commissions. I asked Keith Kizer from the Vegas commission via email, and he told me it was basically up to the ref's discretion.
In the AIBA ( International Amateur Boxing Association) rules, it's simply "Ducking below the belt of the opponent". And for the BBBOC (BRITISH BOXING BOARD OF CONTROL), the rule is simply "persistently ducking below the waistline."
I don't think Ruslan did it excessively so I'm not really complaining. But I didn't think it was defensive wizardry when Pernell Whitaker did it, nor do I think it was defensive wizardry when Ruslan did it.
In none of those gifs did Ruslan ever bend below the belt, what are you complaining about, i dont get it
Good thread and the effort involved wasn't in vain. Much appreciated. Provodnikov looked very good but he is still missing uppercuts from his arsenal and could throw combinations a little more frequently. I was begging for him to throw some uppercuts inside when Mike would square up leaned over but he never did and he still throws one or two punches the majority of the time. Whenever he puts 3 or more together guys just can't handle it and he needs to make that his default.
His footwork was very good, faster than people give him credit for, efficient at cutting off the ring and can get his punches off quickly after moving, pivoting, small angle re-adjustments and staying lighter on his feet.Roach has him doing alot of drills and excercises for his feet and it is paying dividends. You can see alot of them in this video.
I call foul in a few of those. Bending below the waist is not cool.
Depends if you stay there or if you go there briefly while dodging a punch. Even if you stay there you can still get hit, a typical ref will let your opponent get away with kidney shots if you play that game.
Staying low is a foul, briefly ducking low to avoid shots is fine.
I don't see the strong distinction and why the length of time should matter. It's basically the equivalent of turning you back against the opponent either way, which leaves you vulnerable to getting hit on the back of the head and back. Just like holding, it's a pretty cheap way to hide from punches and halt the action.
Admittedly, last time I researched it I couldn't find the rule clearly spelled out for American commissions. I asked Keith Kizer from the Vegas commission via email, and he told me it was basically up to the ref's discretion.
In the AIBA ( International Amateur Boxing Association) rules, it's simply "Ducking below the belt of the opponent". And for the BBBOC (BRITISH BOXING BOARD OF CONTROL), the rule is simply "persistently ducking below the waistline."
I don't think Ruslan did it excessively so I'm not really complaining. But I didn't think it was defensive wizardry when Pernell Whitaker did it, nor do I think it was defensive wizardry when Ruslan did it.
training with roach provo has some skills than most brawlers.
but i remember the people saying and watching the samething about margo after he beat cotto then he fought mosley and i wonder to myself where were these skills