Rosado Made To Look Stupid By Grant Gloves CEO & Sanchez

Fair enough, a poster mentioned they refused to swap gloves, I took it at that I mean why would someone make something up so particular as that? But yes, Mexico, post some background that if you can please. That aside, I still think people are getting too defensive over this. You've had 6 replies on a 10 post page alone. Chill out dude. Back-up gloves the same sounding bizarre, not so much to me. This is professional sports, to not have back-ups for things like that which could be show stoppers without, would be amatuerish. There is of course no proof and I agree people need to be sceptical about cheating accusations as the PED one's have been overdone and really defamed boxers unduly. However gloves etc. is different. If one side had a hunch the gloves weren't quite right, quarelled it, went along, got bust up bad, and the boxer said the gloves looked and felt harder than what he deemed normal, he should be free to say that. No he doesn't have proof it's a tricky thing to have proof on especially given that kind of thing is all about fighting for access to the gloves, not using them, having them in-spected. It often all gets brushed over in the high tensity of the lead up to the fight. Look at the Margarito one, if Nazim wouldn't have been majorly persistent that may not have come out quite as clearly as it did, and it still has some slight doubts or doubters hanging over it. I'd rather a pro boxer whom is the only one feeling them punches, state there experience and opinion freely. Some will dislike him for it but he's not ranted on, spoken out. If someone else had the same experience and doesn't speak out then it all just goes un-noticed. On phone. Don't know if you saw, but they offered Rosado the extra pair in front of everyone, nysac pres included. Billy talked it over and they tried it on for 15-20 minutes then declined

His username is Mexico, he likes to bash Puerto Ricans and he has a HQ gif in his sig. Come on, it's pretty obvious who this guy is. Yea, he's someone who will be banned...again...

Sorry, but where does it say that any of the involved parties even suggest that 'they didn't want to swap gloves'. The only person who's said that is a random poster on here who just made it up. The implication behind that idea is that GGG (unlike other fighters who use identical back-up gloves) somehow has a 'fixed' set and a 'normal' set(s) which are specially made by Grants. Does this not sound a little bizarre to you. While it is fair to say that Gabe is getting pilloried for what was probably only an ill-considered throwaway statement, bear in mind that he is certainly implying that Golovkin cheated when they fought, which is a pretty serious charge, yet has no evidence to back it up. Fair enough, a poster mentioned they refused to swap gloves, I took it at that I mean why would someone make something up so particular as that? But yes, Mexico, post some background that if you can please. That aside, I still think people are getting too defensive over this. You've had 6 replies on a 10 post page alone. Chill out dude. Back-up gloves the same sounding bizarre, not so much to me. This is professional sports, to not have back-ups for things like that which could be show stoppers without, would be amatuerish. There is of course no proof and I agree people need to be sceptical about cheating accusations as the PED one's have been overdone and really defamed boxers unduly. However gloves etc. is different. If one side had a hunch the gloves weren't quite right, quarelled it, went along, got bust up bad, and the boxer said the gloves looked and felt harder than what he deemed normal, he should be free to say that. No he doesn't have proof it's a tricky thing to have proof on especially given that kind of thing is all about fighting for access to the gloves, not using them, having them in-spected. It often all gets brushed over in the high tensity of the lead up to the fight. Look at the Margarito one, if Nazim wouldn't have been majorly persistent that may not have come out quite as clearly as it did, and it still has some slight doubts or doubters hanging over it. I'd rather a pro boxer whom is the only one feeling them punches, state there experience and opinion freely. Some will dislike him for it but he's not ranted on, spoken out. If someone else had the same experience and doesn't speak out then it all just goes un-noticed.

I know bad sportmanships, bad losers are around but Rosado is probably getting slightly too hard a ride here. With PED's it's more guesswork for a boxer to accuse it without much to go on. But the gloves, boxers are using, hit by and around them so much they have a right to speak out if they have a hunch. I'm a fan of GGG but it's interesting they didn't want to swap gloves as mentioned above. Things like wrapping a certain way, massaging the gloves, hitting walls probably goes on a lot more than we like to think. So in the interest of caution give Rosado a break, he's not ranted on about it in the public eye, has he really. Sorry, but where does it say that any of the involved parties even suggest that 'they didn't want to swap gloves'. The only person who's said that is a random poster on here who just made it up. The implication behind that idea is that GGG (unlike other fighters who use identical back-up gloves) somehow has a 'fixed' set and a 'normal' set(s) which are specially made by Grants. Does this not sound a little bizarre to you. While it is fair to say that Gabe is getting pilloried for what was probably only an ill-considered throwaway statement, bear in mind that he is certainly implying that Golovkin cheated when they fought, which is a pretty serious charge, yet has no evidence to back it up.

I know bad sportmanships, bad losers are around but Rosado is probably getting slightly too hard a ride here. With PED's it's more guesswork for a boxer to accuse it without much to go on. But the gloves, boxers are using, hit by and around them so much they have a right to speak out if they have a hunch. I'm a fan of GGG but it's interesting they didn't want to swap gloves as mentioned above. Things like wrapping a certain way, massaging the gloves, hitting walls probably goes on a lot more than we like to think. So in the interest of caution give Rosado a break, he's not ranted on about it in the public eye, has he really.

Who the fuck are you. :rofl: His username is Mexico, he likes to bash Puerto Ricans and he has a HQ gif in his sig. Come on, it's pretty obvious who this guy is.

"gabby" from philly doe.

So based on what he said it would have been ok If Capetillo would have told Shane Mosley that he could use the same wraps as Margarito to make it fair? Or Panama Lewis remove padding from Billy Collins so it would be fair? No. Rosado was given the choice between one pair of certified legal gloves and another pair of certified legal gloves, so it's not really quite the same as the situations you mention, now, is it? Seriously, you think Sanchez and GGG would risk career and imprisonment to gain an edge over Rosado?:rofl:MAO

The fact this is being discussed in detail, as if Rosado's claims have any strength is disgusting to me. This site is pathetic, and loves bs scandals like this. Ridiculous innit? Sadly the attention's making things worse (for Rosado as well, ironically) but ignore it and some people will take the claims at face value - so it ends up sounding like there's a debate or an issue where really there isn't.

So based on what he said it would have been ok If Capetillo would have told Shane Mosley that he could use the same wraps as Margarito to make it fair? Or Panama Lewis remove padding from Billy Collins so it would be fair?

I don't get this, about the 9 months later thing. Rosado didn't complain 9 months later, from what I understand, he complained even before the fight, and only recounted the story 9 months later. Likely because he was asked a question about GGG vs Stevens and what he thinks, and then he brought it up. I am surprised that at this stage, forum members still feel that boxers randomly seek out interviews to talk about a certain boxer. The boxer is seeked out and asked these questions, and based on the questions, they give their opinions. This is common sense. With that said, I don't think anything illegal happened. It's the first we've heard about it. The addressed the problem then and their with absolutely no problem then and they choose to bring it up now? Right before his fight with Quillin like he's try to make it seem like he's been cheated twice at Middleweight? They had a meeting where they brought it up with the trainers,what, the head of the NYSAC and the guy in charge of Grant? Seems to me like he's just trying to discount his loss.

The fact this is being discussed in detail, as if Rosado's claims have any strength is disgusting to me. This site is pathetic, and loves bs scandals like this.

their wasnt multiple pairs only a second pair, and he was welcomed to wear it but guess what, GGG and team wouldent give up the pair they had! Well for one it doesn't say that anywhere, nor does it even suggest that Gabe or Briscoe even asked for them. Secondly, why the hell would Golovkin be expected to give his checked and legal gloves to Rosado. Anyways, may I suggest you try the link suggested at the start of the thread: http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Steve-102513.htm

Thats why I say most likely a sore loser, but his accusation arent entirely without substance, both side agree their was a problem with the gloves but GGG was the A side so guess what only Rosado was asked if he wanted to wear GGG gloves not the other way around. they did make a fuss about it before the fight started if you are unaware please read all the reports. They did make a fuss about it. so Like I said the claims arent without substance, but like I said I believe Rosado is just being a poor sport. But you cant deny their was a situation before hand about the gloves. Both sides agree that Rosado and Briscoe had a problem with the gloves, that's not the same as 'both sides agree there was a problem with the gloves'. Golovkin was on the A side? I guess you're saying that Golovkin got his way because he's the HBO star..or that titlist..whatever? Well no, Golovkin didn't have to do anything, 'cos the NYSAC said that the gloves were safe and legal. Once that was decided all Gabe could really do if he disagreed was to pull outta the fight and make an official complaint. Once again the only 'situation' was that Gabe and Billy weren't happy with GGGs gloves. That is essentially no situation since a) the gloves had been checked and passed, and b) they decided to fight anyway. It's a bit like Gabe saying 'you know, I looked at his muscles and thought, nah man, something ain't right here'. Without any substantiation and with the checks in place and conformed to, it just amounts to Gabe giving a disrespectful (and provably false) opinion.

rasado is the one who brought up the complaints the day before the fight. do you really think rasado brought up these complaints because he simply felt like it? obviously on fight night (in his mind) there was much less knuckle space in golovkins gloves then in his own gloves. these are the only facts..............the rest is theories. The gloves had been pre-checked then re-packed and sealed to be opened again immediately prior to the fight when they were checked again by Briscoe and Rosado and the NYSAC officials as per contract. Wrapping and gloving up were then immediately done with witnesses (as always). It was done this way to ensure any such allegations could be refuted (as they have been). NYSAC passed the gloves as safe, so in effect all Rosado could do (and what he should have done) if he believed the gloves were illegal was refuse to fight, and if necessary demand to retain the gloves for further inspection. What Rosado is in fact doing is calling into question the legitimacy of the NYSAC and probably the reputation of Grants Gloves (by suggesting they were 'custom made' with deliberately less padding) - not only Golovkin and Sanchez. That said, I don't believe Gabe was trying to create this kinda fuss or had thought it through, it was likely just a throw-away response to an interviewers question which has been taken out of context and blown outta proportion. Most likely he was thinking about his own fight and trying to imply that Kid C wasn't as likely to beat him up as people thought. If he follows NSB I wouldn't be surprised if he was a little bitter anyways. Anyway, clearly GGGs gloves will be thoroughly checked (as they woulda been anyway) in any future fights, and if Sanchez and Loeffler are smart they oughta film the unwrapping and inspection process just to ensure such comments can be proved baseless.

One pair of Grant gloves is the same as another pair within about an ounce at the most. Rasado would have lost exactly the same way if he wore GGG's gloves and GGG wore his gloves.He was just being a cry baby and a sore loser.He will most likely lose again tonight so he needs to start thinking up his excuses for this loss.

Why didn't Rosado say anything after the fight if that really happened???

to be honest that grant statement made the entire thing look suspicious. before the statement i just washed it off as bitterness but something is obviously not right.............. so the solution is for him to use the exact same gloves that he's complaining about? what kind of pre school logic is that haha I assume you didn't read the actual article. Grant didn't suggest using Golovkin's extra sets it was Sanchez. What Grant said is that Rosado's accusation about the gloves not being to specification implied he would be willing to risk the repuation of his company to give one boxer an unfair advantage. Grant makes custom color gloves for everyone including Mayweather, Hopkins, Klitschko but thinking he would risk everything for Golovkin is a pathetic and illogical accusation. Thats why I say most likely a sore loser, but his accusation arent entirely without substance, both side agree their was a problem with the gloves but GGG was the A side so guess what only Rosado was asked if he wanted to wear GGG gloves not the other way around. Nobody agreed with Rosado or his trainer including the NYSAC. There you go making up your own reality again.

sounds to me like ggg was weareing a tighter better fitting, and broken in glove and rosado wasnt also ggg knoked ****ers heads off as an AM. so....

f*ck that I got people on the inside telling me Gewrappy Gloverocksin rips the padding out himself and gets abel to insert small lead bricks to make 10 oz and sew the gloves back up. This fraud will be exposed by Nazim Richardson. edit: but seriously, this sh*t is suspicious..