Published this year but clearly old material. Looks like it's from the De La Hoya camp.
Now look at Freddie and Manny doing this same sequence at 14:28, for Marquez 4. Looks how slow Manny and Freddie are compared to 4 years prior. We're 5 years from the previous video.
This is evident in all their mitt work actually. Don't get me wrong, I know it's only natural to get slower with age, but people keep expecting the same old manny to show up versus Rios...it's not gonna happen folks.
I don't think he has slowed. Against Rios, it is not going to matter. Pac is putting a beating on him. I would be stunned if it was a competitive fight.
Bs. Manny slowing down so Roach can keep up. He can only go as fast as Roach can go.
OP didn't consider this, then again he trying to make an argument that someone Pac is an old man now LOL.
the first one looks like a closed gym session that was probably towards the end of camp. In the video description of the second video it says it's of the last day of training camp (published 4 days before the fight).
Thank you for the info. If that's so and not a video misblurb, then they both remind me of someone after a bad accident learning slowly to walk again, taking away the walking stick. ...... really surprised, and still find it difficult to accept. If the first video is a 10, then the second isn't close to 1/10th. I wasn't even impressed with the first video, what impressed people (but not me) was how he was able to sustain and not miss, I didn't think it was fast....not for him. What they were doing was something they had down pat, both doing their acts after practicing maybe 20,000 times already. Just last week I saw MannyP going about thrice as fast and equally accurate, and this on the first day of training. It was shown on here, some topic starter showed it.
In the meantime Rios has never been very good. Somehow not relevant? Decent test for a comeback fight but don't expect some slowing due to age to make a difference. Rios had better hope Pacquiao's traded chins with Khan.
In the second video theyare trying to get into a rhythm for a certain kind of combination, so are starting slowly just to get the punching accurately.... This is what I see. You don't so mayb think about it. And when in the training camp would it have been, the first day or week, perhaps...?
the first one looks like a closed gym session that was probably towards the end of camp. In the video description of the second video it says it's of the last day of training camp (published 4 days before the fight).
That first video might be within the last two or three years based on the MP shirts didnt start coming out til after the cotto fight maybe
nah, freddie was wearing an mp t-shirt in that bob arum tells nacho to stfu video, back during the 2nd fight.
Published this year but clearly old material. Looks like it's from the De La Hoya camp.
Now look at Freddie and Manny doing this same sequence at 14:28, for Marquez 4. Looks how slow Manny and Freddie are compared to 4 years prior. We're 5 years from the previous video.
This is evident in all their mitt work actually. Don't get me wrong, I know it's only natural to get slower with age, but people keep expecting the same old manny to show up versus Rios...it's not gonna happen folks.
In the second video theyare trying to get into a rhythm for a certain kind of combination, so are starting slowly just to get the punching accurately.... This is what I see. You don't so mayb think about it. And when in the training camp would it have been, the first day or week, perhaps...?