Since when did Bradley become Fast?

He obviously couldn't shoulder roll pac, but he could use his backward movement and defensive skills. Quite frankly, he hurt his ankle in the middle of their first fight, and still, Pac couldn't KO him or stop him. Pac rarely landed more than one shot at a time on him. Imagine a less awe stricken, healthy, leaner, more jab oriented Bradley. I don't really see Bradley getting worse in a second fight, only better. And I feel Bradley will adjust from the first fight whereas Pac will not... i believe bradley has matured as a fighter, but getting hit changes fighters, bradley can be slick against orthodox fighters like i said, his defense is very average versus southpaws though and he hurt his ankle in the 4th, so he was getting his asswhooped long before that the bradley that fought marquez could just as easily be left in the same predicament as he was in when he first faced pacquiao, unable to avoid the left, leaving him more cautious, you wont see him as happy because he will know he is in a fight if he is eating big punches early and often and pacquiao has better defense than marquez, as he showed when he fought bradley dont forget that going into that fight pacquiao was fat in camp(remember it being the first time i saw him fat, about 3-2 weeks before the fight) first time pacquiao came in at 147, he looked lethargic and uninterested

what a load of shii bradley can't fight pacquiao like he did marquez, pacquiao is a southpaw and bradley loves to turn away from punches ina shoulder roll like fashion, he did it vs pacquiao and ate just about every cross pacquiao threw because of it He obviously couldn't shoulder roll pac, but he could use his backward movement and defensive skills. Quite frankly, he hurt his ankle in the middle of their first fight, and still, Pac couldn't KO him or stop him. Pac rarely landed more than one shot at a time on him. Imagine a less awe stricken, healthy, leaner, more jab oriented Bradley. I don't really see Bradley getting worse in a second fight, only better. And I feel Bradley will adjust from the first fight whereas Pac will not...

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4307427/146089663_extra_large.jpg here's a perfect depiction of my point bradley is slick vs orthodox fighters, every southpaw he has ever faced = eats just about every left hand

Brradley was fast enough to outbox Marquez. Yeah I know its moot now but your error was in assuming because Marquez can handle Pac's footwork that he can handle Bradley's. Pac, while he has fast feet, is a come forward guy, rarely boxing off of the back foot. Bradley I've seen do everything in the ring. He was more than capable of boxing Marquez by adding a bit of BACKWARDS and side to side movement. Pac didn't outbox Bradley. He outslugged him. And Pac was loading up on single shots because bradley wasn't letting him land combos. Also Bradley was somewhat in awe of Pac in that fight you could tell. If he fought Pac the way he fought Marquez last night, he would win with no controversy. Your final error was assuming Bradley would fight like he fought prov. Bradley had a chip on his shoulder in the Prov fight. He was back to form in the Marquez fight, as I predicted. what a load of shii bradley can't fight pacquiao like he did marquez, pacquiao is a southpaw and bradley loves to turn away from punches ina shoulder roll like fashion, he did it vs pacquiao and ate just about every cross pacquiao threw because of it

Do you even think before you speak ? Bradley has never been that talented ? He is a complete fighter he has almost every tool one would need with the exception of maybe power ... He's a p4p fighter not many guys make it there that have limite talent... Unless they are knocking guys out left and right... Which Bradley is not... I know your stupid, I mean, this has been proven in other threads already... But I actually list all the talents that he lacks in that same comment... I see you highlighted in bold how far you read, but there was a lot more too it, and even according to your boy, it is all facts Bradley's boxing skill is the result of hardwork and dedication... His stamina is the result of hard work and dedication... His will? Hard work and dedication (thanks to his dad)... These are what make him a p4p fighter... Not his speed, which is only slightly above average... Definitely not his power, which is non existent... Not his size, which again is non existent for his weight class... Am I wrong?

this was pretty good. This was mine: good stuff!

I agree with the marquez part but assuming that bradley will beat pac with the same game plan is questionable as pac can and has matched him in both hand and foot speed and he trumps him in power, accuracy and chin (at least prior to the marquez ko). you say if bradley fought pac like did marquez, he would win without controversy but I counter that if pac didn't treat bradley like a sparring partner, bradley wouldn't have lasted 12. I'd like to see a rematch since both have unfinished business. It'd be an exhausting fight for Tim. Although I do think Tim gave Pac too much respect in the first fight. If he can take JMM's bombs, and Provodnikov's... He can mix it up with Pac in spots maybe. The reason I say Bradley's movement would trouble Pac is Pac has fits against guys that can box off of the back foot, and that present a moving target. Mosley, when he went in survival mode after the KD, shut Pac down in that way. And Bradley, in his current incarnation, is more fleet footed and defensively savvy than Mosley. He is fully capable of fighting a smart fight with footwork, the jab, and mixing it up when he has to, with Pac.

I agree with the marquez part but assuming that bradley will beat pac with the same game plan is questionable as pac can and has matched him in both hand and foot speed and he trumps him in power, accuracy and chin (at least prior to the marquez ko). you say if bradley fought pac like did marquez, he would win without controversy but I counter that if pac didn't treat bradley like a sparring partner, bradley wouldn't have lasted 12. I'd like to see a rematch since both have unfinished business. Brradley was fast enough to outbox Marquez. Yeah I know its moot now but your error was in assuming because Marquez can handle Pac's footwork that he can handle Bradley's. Pac, while he has fast feet, is a come forward guy, rarely boxing off of the back foot. Bradley I've seen do everything in the ring. He was more than capable of boxing Marquez by adding a bit of BACKWARDS and side to side movement. Pac didn't outbox Bradley. He outslugged him. And Pac was loading up on single shots because bradley wasn't letting him land combos. Also Bradley was somewhat in awe of Pac in that fight you could tell. If he fought Pac the way he fought Marquez last night, he would win with no controversy. Your final error was assuming Bradley would fight like he fought prov. Bradley had a chip on his shoulder in the Prov fight. He was back to form in the Marquez fight, as I predicted.

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Who said he was? Bradley's never been that talented... He got where he's at now with hard work and dedication... Very little God given talent (except maybe the chin) He's fast, but not that fast, he's tough and gritty but doesn't hit hard, he fights at the talent rich 147 but he's 5'6 (maybe, probably shorter)... Perfect example of an "if only"... If only he was faster, if only he hit harder, if only he was 5'9... Guy would be a monster Do you even think before you speak ? Bradley has never been that talented ? He is a complete fighter he has almost every tool one would need with the exception of maybe power ... He's a p4p fighter not many guys make it there that have limite talent... Unless they are knocking guys out left and right... Which Bradley is not...

Bradley is very quick actually when chooses to BOX and use that head movement and move in and out however he is not as fast at 147 compared to when he was at 140 Speed advantage don't mean sh1t when fighting a excellent counter puncher will good timing like JMM. I do think Bradley can out-box JMM and beat him to the punch and avoid JMM Counters yes absolutely I think he is Quick Enough and Fast Enough to do that but will he get back to boxing or will he get stupid and let his heart take over and get away from his SKILLS if he does that I think JMM can catch him and hurt him but if he boxes, uses that jab to set up body punches and be unpredictable then I see Bradley getting a LEGIT decision over JMM Bradley is not great at one thing...but he is Good At Everything which can make him difficult to deal with and hard to time and catch This was pretty good. This was mine: Nah... I basically see Marquez as a fairly flatfooted guy, at age 40.. Pac played right into his hands. Marquez will be pursuing Bradley, and Bradley won't let Marquez set. He'll pitty pat and move and win a decision over Juan. Juan needs a guy to let him set, at this stage of the game. Bradley aint aiming to exchange in this fight. He gonna try to do what Mayweather did to Marquez. Not buying, will dl later that night from the video block

I will let the pictures below speak for themselves! Bradley isn't that fast folks and he certainly isn't even close to the fastest fighter marquez has ever faced! http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4307427/146089663_extra_large.jpg http://www.esquiremagazine.ph/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Marquez-Pacquiao-KO-FINAL1.png Who said he was? Bradley's never been that talented... He got where he's at now with hard work and dedication... Very little God given talent (except maybe the chin) He's fast, but not that fast, he's tough and gritty but doesn't hit hard, he fights at the talent rich 147 but he's 5'6 (maybe, probably shorter)... Perfect example of an "if only"... If only he was faster, if only he hit harder, if only he was 5'9... Guy would be a monster

Brradley was fast enough to outbox Marquez. No what you said was he can't deal with movement which is a statment that I would describe as "Stunningly" full of Shhhhhiitt! Juan's foot speed may not be very good but it doesn't mean that Bradley is just gonna walk into the ring hide behind a Jab and cruise to a victory. Bradley isn't talented enough for that and his last 2 fights prove that!!!! Seriously when did Bradley become this slick boxer all of a sudden? Even when he Boxed against Provednekov he was still getting hit with huge shots and getting hurt. And Provednekov foot work really isn't all that much better the Juan's so seriously what are you talking about? Look man refer to the second picture in my very first post in this thread. Pac has some of the best footwork in the history of boxing and you can go ahead and take a look at how well Juan " handled" Pac's movement. The same Pac that completely out boxed Bradley. Yeah I know its moot now but your error was in assuming because Marquez can handle Pac's footwork that he can handle Bradley's. Pac, while he has fast feet, is a come forward guy, rarely boxing off of the back foot. Bradley I've seen do everything in the ring. He was more than capable of boxing Marquez by adding a bit of BACKWARDS and side to side movement. Pac didn't outbox Bradley. He outslugged him. And Pac was loading up on single shots because bradley wasn't letting him land combos. Also Bradley was somewhat in awe of Pac in that fight you could tell. If he fought Pac the way he fought Marquez last night, he would win with no controversy. Your final error was assuming Bradley would fight like he fought prov. Bradley had a chip on his shoulder in the Prov fight. He was back to form in the Marquez fight, as I predicted.

I think he showed good speed, I think it's more of the fact he controlled the distance very well and offset Marquez often stepping in and out with the jab.

seemed pretty fast to me last nite...so glad he won He has always had good speed, dont know how these idiots would think otherwise. He just doesnt do to many combinations to show it off and his balance is sloppy in exchanges.

Yeah, pretty much everyone is faster than jmm... JMM wins by standing there, getting punched in the face, but then unloads brutal counters, and wins,,, He did it vs manny, diaz, katsidis, MAB, casamoyer..... Bradley will be able to punch him in the face, no doubt, but can bradley handle the return fire, That will be what this fight boils down to.. If bradley can handle the counters and not end up like diaz, then bradley will win this fight Bump,,,,,,,,,

I got bradley by decision, in a classic fight that will have people debating forever afterwards.... I just think bradley will make jmm look old and slow in this fight....... There i said it,, are you happy now, my friend:crucified Bump,,, Just patting myself on the back,, not exactly a "classic" fight but had people debating afterwards

The only time he's "fast" is when he bumrushes his opponent and starts windmilling like a spastic Even then he's not that fast and very wide. He's just not a fast fighter. His hands aren't fast, his feet aren't fast, his reflexes aren't fast, nothing about him is overly fast. He has decent speed in all these areas and that's it.

While it's true that Bradley's feet are a lot faster than JMM but Marquez has the better hand to eye coordination when it comes to landing accurate punches while trading. This fight has the potential of posing a very serious match up problem for Marquez; Especially if Tim decides to keep the fight at a distance by working behind the jab, moving his feet and limiting the amount of exchanges. If Bradley doesn't leave enough openings for Marquez to counter him, then Juan is not going to win this fight.

I would never categorize Tim Bradley as speed fighter