I've been reading for years on message boards, members claiming Louis would defeat Wlad, despite the fact he was a twink compared to Wladdy....
Their thoughts have been clouded by the fact Louis has that record of title defenses. They fail to realize times have changed, weight training, science etc. Not saying Louis wasn't great but the sheer size and skill of Wlad would be too much to overcome.
whoever says Joe Louis is either a racially motivated black guy or a white cuckold.
there's nobody else that really believes that slow plodding 6'2 215 lb Louis would be anything but a first round KO victim of Wlad.
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=KocOaeOEjFXo4Rok looks like you all exposed yourself lunatics,louis and his whole era looks very novice like compared to foreman and even no names foreman fought in both ages,yet he beats wlad funny
And this is how wlad fought compared to that novice who odd lunatics said for years wlad fought like but never did primo
https://youtu.be/c5quyoCm8kA?si=GeemVGZozH3e6_Go
which man did louis fight who was this tall and had these great set of skills?oh that's right none louis gets ended faster than that guy who was first shown who was the 3rd guy that wlad fought who was way more advanced than the whole louis era,and wlad even then in that 3rd match was way more advanced than the whole louis era
Louis KO's him by the 6th or 7th, or if Wlad moves away it may take him 10 to 11 to catch him. Joe was a slide stepper so his power was right there all the time but he could get to Wlad. Wlad could not avoid Joe all night because Wlad can't box on the move the way he'd need to.. Ali or Conn he ain't hahaha!!! He's a great big awkward guy when you make him move and he will not stay in front of Louis that would suicidle.
Yesterday you saw how awkward he is when a novice guy attacks him.
Don't start with the size BS! Wlad has NEVER been hit with Joe Louis power, NEVER!
Size can be an advantage but it can be turned against you when the opponent knows how to block, slip, side step and punch off these techniques. Louis has one of the greatest cornermen ever in boxing also.
I have nothing against the Klitz its not their fault that the division is weak it would be weaker without them. BUT...theres no way anyone is telling me that their ATG heavies, thats BS!! Its on film, learn something about techniques there are right and wrongs in boxing and the brothers are limited in many ways. No way are they more skilled than a Joe Louis, ridiculous!
Ray Corso
joe louis was one of the hardest most accurate punchers in the history of boxing. anyone who thinks he'd be a cake walk for wlad is sorely mistaken and dksab.
i don't even think he beats jack johnson.
johnson was much stronger physical & tougher then wlad..those guys would have made wlad quit. wlad has a very low tolerance of pain & a weak heart.........
the only people that think their watching something special are nut huggers or 12 year olds who are too young to know what a talented heavyweight looks like.
I happen to think Jack Johnson is the most overlooked great Heavyweight ever. Jack would shred the ranks today with little doubt in my mind. I know he was even smaller than Louis but he was the man. Heck at 200 (his normal fighting weight) imagine the havoc he would create anywhere between Light Heavy and Heavy!
Joe Louis was 6'2", 215 lbs., too small to escape the hug of death.
This. But with todays training he might have been a healthy 225. Still small though. Even so I have a hard, hard time saying anyone would walk away from a prime Louis with a sure victory.
Imagine it...
Wald take a frightful hop backwards, falls forward to clinch. Louis times it and lands the right down the pipe.
The end.
Wlad probably beats every other pre-Liston Heavyweight champ in history. Louis is the outlier.
i don't even think he beats jack johnson.
johnson was much stronger physical & tougher then wlad..those guys would have made wlad quit. wlad has a very low tolerance of pain & a weak heart.........
the only people that think their watching something special are nut huggers or 12 year olds who are too young to know what a talented heavyweight looks like.
I haven't seen many Louis bouts, but I'm not sure if he could cope with being clinched 20 times a round.
Louis was a very manly man. He might have been taken off his game by all the hugging and cheek-to-cheek contact.
I think Louis would beat Grabimir Clinchcko.
Joe hit very hard, had great combo's and perfect technique. Plus the Brown Bomber beat bigger men like Max Baer, so he showed he could get the bigger guys out.
As soon as a bomb landed on Grabimir's chin, Grabimir would hit the canvas. He'd try to get up and lean on Joe, but Joe would dispose of him with haste.
Max Baer was just about the same size and weight as louis. You must be thinking of his brother Buddy. I used to see him in movies of ancient Rome, always playing the faithful slave or something like that. He seemed huge.
Louis was tall enough, and in any case opponents with big height and weight advantages didn't bother him at all; he was too technically skilled to allow himself to submit meekly to the Klitschko tactics we just saw. Klitschko would be forced to actively grapple and desperately hold onto Louis and would eventually have been DQ. (something like Bonecrusher Smith/Tyson, but much worse). Louis could easily reach Klitschko's chin. He KO'd Buddy Baer in the seventh and first rds, and Baer was about Klitschko's size, and a better than average boxer too. Abe Simon was a bigger guy too and he KO'd him twice also.
Louis also had a very good inside game, (by today's standards) which was common in those days; it was all part of usual boxing skills. He was also a devastating short puncher, needing little space to execute. Louis would have figured out how to get to Klitschko, and it was probably already a part of his capabilities.
Just my opinion, although I like Klitschko.
I think Louis would beat Grabimir Clinchcko.
Joe hit very hard, had great combo's and perfect technique. Plus the Brown Bomber beat bigger men like Max Baer, so he showed he could get the bigger guys out.
As soon as a bomb landed on Grabimir's chin, Grabimir would hit the canvas. He'd try to get up and lean on Joe, but Joe would dispose of him with haste.
I haven't seen many Louis bouts, but I'm not sure if he could cope with being clinched 20 times a round.
He wouldn't just let himself be clinched. Who the hell is training Povetkin that they didn't say "the next time he leans on your neck, throw a body shot that lands right on his cup. Keep doing it until he stops. Stand up hard and throw a shoulder into his mouth or the back of your head into his face. Bring the forearm up and mash him in the grill when he falls forward."
Etc.
Unreal. Pabon sucked but if you get fouled silly all night and do nothing to pay it back, you need someone to train you on the finer points of pro fighting. Like Wlad went and got from Steward.
Even when Wlad lost, counting out the Sanders bout
He pummeled them and ran out of gas..
Louis would get hit for sure
Odds are he's out
His twinkish build wouldn't be enough
Yet the new improved version of Wlad
The calculated one
Clinching
Jab jab, straight right
Rinse and repeat
Louis loses badly
12y ago
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