Dan Rafael: Pacquiao-Cotto II? No chance

I don't understand why people still care about this fight. Pac destroys Cotto and turns him into mush no matter what. It should also be noted that it's Cotto's decision that he won't fight below 154 anymore, and Pac won't fight above 150. The Cotto from last night could easily beat Trout though, they should set a rematch of that one. if arum has anything to do with it, it wont be made. arum said himself he would have never made that fight

They are friends now and once Manny becomes friends with someone he will never fight them. Floyd Mayweather Jr. just sent Manny Pacquiao a friend request. Funny!!! :rofl:

Wrong, he ducked Floyd Duck? How can you be the ducker when you are the one pursuing while the other guy goes on several extended vacations, demands certain roadblocks to the point that even some die-hard Floyd fans finally realized that Floyd just didn't want that fight. If Manny still said no to testing one may say it was a duck but Manny agreed to Floyd's demand of 14 day cutoff (similar to Floyd saying Canelo was OK with CW). Floyd insisted on no cut-off days. Manny said OK, no problem. Was that a GO? No Floyd then came up with new roadblocks. Floyd was the ducker.

Who besides maybe Bob Arum is interested to begin with? pretty much....

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Cotto appreciated the handy work Pacquiao did to Margarito's eye it their fight. Pretty obvious they won't though. What is Dan going to tell us next Wlad and Vitali ain't going to fight as well.:tragedy:

I don't understand why people still care about this fight. Pac destroys Cotto and turns him into mush no matter what. It should also be noted that it's Cotto's decision that he won't fight below 154 anymore, and Pac won't fight above 150. The Cotto from last night could easily beat Trout though, they should set a rematch of that one.

The fight won't happen because of weight. Pacman didn't and wouldn't beat a healthy Cotto and he proved it when he went looking for the rematch at mannyweight himself.

I would have rather seen pacquiao fight joel casamayor who was the lineal champ at 135 or juan diaz who was the hot fighter at 135 at the time, instead of david diaz. I would have rather seen pacquiao fight paul Williams instead of clottey. I would have rather seen pacquiao fight berto who was undefeated at the time pacquiao signed to fight mosley. especially with mosley just coming off of a draw with Sergio mora. Im not saying pacquiao ducked those guys, but I would have rather seen those fights. That's kind of the point though, Gambler and Thoughts were inferring he ducked.

They are friends now and once Manny becomes friends with someone he will never fight them. Floyd Mayweather Jr. just sent Manny Pacquiao a friend request.

Good. Don't really want to see a rematch.

Like what? I would have rather seen pacquiao fight joel casamayor who was the lineal champ at 135 or juan diaz who was the hot fighter at 135 at the time, instead of david diaz. I would have rather seen pacquiao fight paul Williams instead of clottey. I would have rather seen pacquiao fight berto who was undefeated at the time pacquiao signed to fight mosley. especially with mosley just coming off of a draw with Sergio mora. Im not saying pacquiao ducked those guys, but I would have rather seen those fights.

Isnt he the only one that matters Even Arum won't bother if there's no demand from the fighters or the fans. He can make fights with both that people actually care about.

Who besides maybe Bob Arum is interested to begin with? Isnt he the only one that matters

Bringer is correct Pacman never ducked a fight, he fights whoever his promoter tells him too even Mayweather said this he said Pac fights whoever Arum tells him so he is no ducker. If you watched boxing before 2008 you would recall Murad Muhammad, Pacs first promoter throwing him with nothing but tough fighters, even journey men who were dangerous like agapito sanchez and julio, and throwing pac in with just two weeks notice against tough champion ledwaba who people forget was considered to be the best guy at 122 since Morales and Barrera vacated to 126. Pacman fought JMM when nobody wanted anythign to do with him, JMM was called the avoided one because of how Prince Naseem refused to fight him. If Pac didn't fight a certain fighter its because his promoter didn't want to make the fight not him. He always says it talk to my promoter, and people can hate all they want but the only one here who has full say on his career is Mayweather and he openly joked and admit he is hand picker. In fact Arum only gets hated on by Mayweather groupies they hate anyone Floyd hates and like whoever he likes, they liked 50 cent than hated him when he spoke about floyd telling him he was scared to fight Manny. They love Al haymon the snake too. Everyone blames Arum for the top rank vs. golden boy feud, its BS, Golden boy apologized to Arum when floyd retired because they had no star they settled out of court and were pretending to be nice to Arum and than they stabbed him in the back when Mayeather came out of retirement and started talking **** on pac. Arum put Pacquiao in with mainly golden boy fighters too, Barrera, JMM rematches, Oscar, and Hatton. So Arum is not trying to protect Pac like many claim. And it was Floyd who made the excuse he will not work with Arum, Arum never said that. Arum was actually trying to negotiate the fight with Ross Greenburg and Haymon and than Floyd went on vacation the second negotiation. But it came out of floyds mouth that he will not do business with Arum and unless Pacman signs to TMT promotions.

There was obviously no need for a rematch. Also, Roach said they would never fight each other again around the time he started training Cotto so it's not exactly news. Had Pac not lost to JMM I'm sure *****s would argue that this was a blatant duck though.

There were other fights for Manny that I wanted to see instead of Clottey, Margarita, and Mosely. Like?.........

There were other fights for Manny that I wanted to see instead of Clottey, Margarita, and Mosely. Like what?

It's pretty cool they've become friendly with one another. The last decade of boxing wouldn't be nearly as great as it was without them, and neither guy ever ducked a fight that we wanted to see them in. There were other fights for Manny that I wanted to see instead of Clottey, Margarita, and Mosely.

It's pretty cool they've become friendly with one another. The last decade of boxing wouldn't be nearly as great as it was without them, and neither guy ever ducked a fight that we wanted to see them in. Cotto sure, but the other guy that is being awfully kind.