Is anyone worried about Pacquiao being drained or weak in the Rios fight?

that went over as well as a pregnant lady pole vaulting I never expected you to accept it, but it is my take on it. nice debating with you :wave:

It doesnt sound like that at all , and one doesnt figure this out 10yrs later , thats just a politician pissing in the wind , if you have trouble making weight you know then and there not 10 yrs later . How do I know he had no trouble , because his 130 lb fights showed us , the fight is the result of the preparation ; the fight is the testing ground ; if you have trouble making weight , you dont then fight 12 round wars being strong fast and with loads of endurance , that doesnt happen and is proof 130 at the time was not a problem . Manny is well known for making excuses , from shoes , cramps , blood testing , lost and found God , not motivated , distracted , excuse after excuse is what we have come to expect from Manny , and this is another one only he has been caught out lying red handed . He ducked the Mayweather fight and this lie about feeling weak is proof , he either ducked the testing or ducked Floyd or ducked both . Like Ive said all along you have NO evidence to even suggest weight , your just assuming and reaching based on nothing really , because you cant compare your experiences with that of elite world champion fighters . Manny failed to make weight against Torrecampo and lost, so it has happened to him in the past. Also it wasn't 10 years later, Manny mentioned it in this 2005 interview so i don't know where you're getting your info from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdY1xZ3fh20 It is also a lot different fighting drained against Fahsan 3K Battery then it is against Erik Morales. With lesser fighters he can get away with not being as sharp or hydrated, if you're fighting Morales and not feeling well however then you got problems. Ya he does make excuses but so do a lot of other fighters, it would be refreshing to hear someone say that they lost to the better man today but will come back stronger, that we agree on. And wow you're really mad about this LOL!

Cutting weight is not an exact science and all I can really do is go from my past experience, I've had great weight cuts and I've had horrible ones. It sounds like Manny had a bad weight cut then wrongly thought it was the blood being drawn that caused him to be weak. In fact how do you know that he didn't have problems making weight in the past, he's not going to exactly give that away to his opponent and the media. It doesnt sound like that at all , and one doesnt figure this out 10yrs later , thats just a politician pissing in the wind , if you have trouble making weight you know then and there not 10 yrs later . How do I know he had no trouble , because his 130 lb fights showed us , the fight is the result of the preparation ; the fight is the testing ground ; if you have trouble making weight , you dont then fight 12 round wars being strong fast and with loads of endurance , that doesnt happen and is proof 130 at the time was not a problem . Manny is well known for making excuses , from shoes , cramps , blood testing , lost and found God , not motivated , distracted , excuse after excuse is what we have come to expect from Manny , and this is another one only he has been caught out lying red handed . He ducked the Mayweather fight and this lie about feeling weak is proof , he either ducked the testing or ducked Floyd or ducked both . Like Ive said all along you have NO evidence to even suggest weight , your just assuming and reaching based on nothing really , because you cant compare your experiences with that of elite world champion fighters .

Well of course they did, in a fight like that, with so much on the line and both egos being huge they did not want to give in to each others demands. They thought they could get the fight at a later date but unfortunately for them JMM changed those plans. Hindsight is 20/20 and if you asked them now I think that they'd say they made a mistake in not taking it then. that went over as well as a pregnant lady pole vaulting

I know more about cutting weight than you can poke a stick at so dont pin medals on yourself when you dont know who your talking too . Your spin is not a reasonable conclusion because you have " NO evidence " to support it , NONE ! On the contrary the evidence proves he made the very same weight with no problems before and after Morales , he actually went up a division to fight Morales , so again your reaching into a hat full of BS looking for a back door key , just like Manny did when he invented his story 10yrs after the fact , and then 3 yrs after that he says he made a mistake and OST testing is all good to go now , dont need cut offs because I dont get weak now . Are you guys for real ! Cutting weight is not an exact science and all I can really do is go from my past experience, I've had great weight cuts and I've had horrible ones. It sounds like Manny had a bad weight cut then wrongly thought it was the blood being drawn that caused him to be weak. In fact how do you know that he didn't have problems making weight in the past, he's not going to exactly give that away to his opponent and the media.

No not really, it's a fairly reasonable conclusion from someone (me) who's done a lot of weight cutting in the past. Compared to your alternative tin-foil hat conspiracy theory I think it's more than plausible. I know more about cutting weight than you can poke a stick at so dont pin medals on yourself when you dont know who your talking too . Your spin is not a reasonable conclusion because you have " NO evidence " to support it , NONE ! On the contrary the evidence proves he made the very same weight with no problems before and after Morales , he actually went up a division to fight Morales , so again your reaching into a hat full of BS looking for a back door key , just like Manny did when he invented his story 10yrs after the fact , and then 3 yrs after that he says he made a mistake and OST testing is all good to go now , dont need cut offs because I dont get weak now . Are you guys for real !

walking away from the fight is not a theory. pac and arum left the negotiations to fight someone else. thats a fact Well of course they did, in a fight like that, with so much on the line and both egos being huge they did not want to give in to each others demands. They thought they could get the fight at a later date but unfortunately for them JMM changed those plans. Hindsight is 20/20 and if you asked them now I think that they'd say they made a mistake in not taking it then.

No not really, it's a fairly reasonable conclusion from someone (me) who's done a lot of weight cutting in the past. Compared to your alternative tin-foil hat conspiracy theory I think it's more than plausible. walking away from the fight is not a theory. pac and arum left the negotiations to fight someone else. thats a fact

So your assuming all this with the word " probably " had a bad weight cut , well the facts remain solid , there is NO evidence to weight issues as he was cutting the same weight for all his 130 fights , your desperately reaching when the evidence strongly suggests he invented this story of it makes me weak taking blood to avoid OST testing or to duck Floyd . Either way he was ducking a test or Floyd or both . No not really, it's a fairly reasonable conclusion from someone (me) who's done a lot of weight cutting in the past. Compared to your alternative tin-foil hat conspiracy theory I think it's more than plausible.

So was he cutting weight then?or is he really small now??im confused..i thought he had to eat like 7 times a day to just make 147..if so then how was he cutting weight then? He was cutting a lot of weight when he was fighting at 126 - 130. He is a small WW in that he doesn't have to cut much if any to make 147. In a professional training camp I'd imagine that you would be burning a tonne of calories, 7 meals might be an exaggeration but i wouldn't be surprised if it was close.

And they better damn well give him his fvcking clitoris gloves :lol1::lol1::lol1:

A long as they give him the right socks and don't poke him with any needles, he's fine. No need to drug test him since he's afraid of needles and has never been caught cheating.They just have to take his word for it... Hes the most honest guy ever and wouldnt cheat in the sport but will cheat on his wife.

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I've cut weight a lot of times, some of them were easy and some of them did not go well, it depended on a lot of factors. Pac probably had a bad weight cut before the Morales fight and then psychologically blamed it on the blood being drawn. So your assuming all this with the word " probably " had a bad weight cut , well the facts remain solid , there is NO evidence to weight issues as he was cutting the same weight for all his 130 fights , your desperately reaching when the evidence strongly suggests he invented this story of it makes me weak taking blood to avoid OST testing or to duck Floyd . Either way he was ducking a test or Floyd or both .

I've cut weight a lot of times, some of them were easy and some of them did not go well, it depended on a lot of factors. Pac probably had a bad weight cut before the Morales fight and then psychologically blamed it on the blood being drawn. So was he cutting weight then?or is he really small now??im confused..i thought he had to eat like 7 times a day to just make 147..if so then how was he cutting weight then?

A long as they give him the right socks and don't poke him with any needles, he's fine. No need to drug test him since he's afraid of needles and has never been caught cheating.They just have to take his word for it... And they better damn well give him his fvcking clitoris gloves

Thats the whole idea , its a Manny showcase , Arum thinks who cares about Rios being a B grade bum coming of loses from a lower division , he knows Mannys fan base are pig ignorant when it comes to boxing , they will swallow Manny beating anybody . I honestly hope no one is blind or dumb enough to think a win over Rios means anything.It is just a fight to make Manny look good and get him a stoppage win which he hasn't had in 4 years

A long as they give him the right socks and don't poke him with any needles, he's fine. No need to drug test him since he's afraid of needles and has never been caught cheating.They just have to take his word for it...

He was cutting the same with JMM , didnt make him weak then ! You guys make up any BS as you go along . The taking blood makes me weak statement was fabricated to DUCK the Mayweather fight . I've cut weight a lot of times, some of them were easy and some of them did not go well, it depended on a lot of factors. Pac probably had a bad weight cut before the Morales fight and then psychologically blamed it on the blood being drawn.

No that was just to avoid taking the test.