I was able to collect 59 Press Scores for the Boxing News Site for the Vera-Chavez fight at the weekend where not one Press member scored for Chavez.
My Score was 96-94 Vera and my full card is on the site
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/latest/feature/brian-vera-scored-the-winner-over-julio-cesar-chavez-jnr-by-53-members-of-the-press
Comments Welcome and what was your score????
No it isn't. You're just getting their opinion on things. Doesn't reaffirm anything.
You really are an idiot. I couldn't quite figure you out before, but it's really simple. You are just flat out dumb.
Watched the fight last night and I got to agree with Frank Ducketts I had Jr. Win with 6 rounds ( I thought I was the only one that had him winning).
I don't know why anyone would be surprised with this result. For Vera to get the win he'd have to pitch a shutout or KO Chavez that's the only way he gets the decision in this fight. Tune up fighters don't get the benifit of the doubt when they fight A side fighters(Dela Hoya vs Sturm), The A-side will almost always get the decision its frustrating as a fan but this is the way it is I don't think it's just boxing it happens in all sports Popularity and $$ rule. (2002 NBA western conference finals L.A vs Sacramento or 2010 NBA Finals game 7 LA vs Boston.) 2011 NHL Stanley Cup finals Vancouver vs Boston. I can go on and on sports are rarely played on a level playing field
It's hard to love boxing these days, the corruption is so apparent... It's just sad
I hear you but we don't watch boxing for the judging, we watch it for the fight itself.
You said who cares what they thought and jr got the W. This thread just confirms that the consensus is jr got a robberyI'm saying who cares because writers are fans like us. They write about it, we watch it. They don't have a third eye that we don't have. They have an opinion too. And no, writers do not confirm anything...ever in boxing. People had many reasons to hate on Junior before this fight. I watch the fights. I didn't see Vera win 6 rounds. I saw Junior win 6 rounds. One judge got it right. If anyone has proof that the judges were paid off, please post that proof.
It is beyond belief that anyone can try to make a case for him winning the fight.
Im one of the biggest Chavez Jr apoligists on this site and i will say that the fight was a complete robbery. Vera worked hard for that win and it's a shame that money and politics robbed him of the biggest win of his carer. Vera is a good little fighter and he should have two good wins on his record the other one being against Serhiy Dzinziruk.
I think what upsets most people is the wide margin that chavez jr won by..
had the scores been 96-94, 96-94, 95-95, or a split draw, i dont think it would have been that much outcry, but 2 scorecards only gave vera 2 and 3 rounds which is absurd..
Vera had 4 clear rounds. Chavez had 2. The other 4 were close, and Chavez has an argument in all of them.
I'm surprised no one sees it for him. Vera deserved it more, but it wasn't a clear cut 6-4 win for him.
I guess we should factor in the 'underdog' aspect, the fact Vera is a US fighter and possibly the biggest one of all, everyone hates Chavez.
Vera had 4 clear rounds. Chavez had 2. The other 4 were close, and Chavez has an argument in all of them.
I'm surprised no one sees it for him. Vera deserved it more, but it wasn't a clear cut 6-4 win for him.
There were few draws. I felt Vera edged it too, but if you're scoring on clean effective punches it's easy to see how Chavez might get the nod since he rocked Vera a number of times.
I don't think it was as clear-cut as those press scores have it.
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The first half of the fight I thought Chavez Jr was doing just enough to keep the fight close. The last half Vera pulled away and was outworking him at some points about as bad as Martinez did. There were more than a few times when Chavez's head was snapping back from punches so I don't buy the more effective punches came from Jr. This one was an obvious one, but with that being said Vera is a journeyman and Chavez is the money guy. In the big scheme of things this fight isn't going to change the future for either one of them. Vera will still be a journeyman and Chavez will continue to get the money fights.
I thought it was a pretty close fight so kind of surprised no one saw it for JCC Jr., there is probably some bias going on given the distastes purists would have for such a circus. Lots of those guys would be looking to stick it to JCC Jr. he deserves that and he certainly could have lost the fight.
It also may have looked different at ringside although looking at the scores most felt it was pretty close also.
As for the judges scores being wide, well it comes down to what you liked if you liked what one guy was doing it stands to reason that you would like them in most rounds, so while the fight might have been close the round scores don't have to be close.
While I thought Vera deserved the win, that is a valid point. Following the fight live on Twitter it was obvious that many who were scoring who were hoping that Chavez would lose. Not that there is anything wrong with that...
I thought it was a pretty close fight so kind of surprised no one saw it for JCC Jr., there is probably some bias going on given the distastes purists would have for such a circus. Lots of those guys would be looking to stick it to JCC Jr. he deserves that and he certainly could have lost the fight.
It also may have looked different at ringside although looking at the scores most felt it was pretty close also.
As for the judges scores being wide, well it comes down to what you liked if you liked what one guy was doing it stands to reason that you would like them in most rounds, so while the fight might have been close the round scores don't have to be close.
I had it a draw .. I'm sure I could find a round close enough to give to Chavez. Same can be said for Vera. Martinez/Murray was much closer to a "robbery" if anything.