There is no1 there to fight,Arum has no fighters from 140-154 unless we get recycled fights over and over and over again..If he leaves he can fight
Broner
Garcia
Alexander
Mallinaggi
Mattyshee
Floyd
Canelo
Khan
and many more
Arum is holding him down
Remember the scene in Zoolander where Derek was forced to watch that film where Will Ferrell hypnotized him to assassinate the Prime Minister of Malaysia?
Now imagine Arum showing the same type of hypnosis film, but with Bob Arum hypnotizing Pacquiao to stay in Top Rank. That's what happened to Pacquiao.
Everybody knows Arum is head and shoulders above anybody else in clout, experience, and renown as a promoter.
Pac is a Politician. Heck Arum even went to the Philippines to campaign for him. Do you think he would leave Arum for any reason as shallow as money? Pac is not Floyd you Flows should have got it by now. If anyone in America can sell Manny to become president of the Philippines it's not Oscar, or King, or any small time promoter. It's Arum who can sell garbage for top dollar.
That's a myth Donaire claimed it didn't have a date but Dan Rafael tweeted at Donaire that it did have a cut off date of June, Donaire kept claiming it had no date even after than. Paulie-Broner had a combined purse of 2.75 million so 3 million does sound like a lot.
Is that true? Ok, I'm not surprised, Donaire is kind of a b1tch. Still I'd think he'd find Mares easier than Rigo.
Broner Paulie was contested in the WW division, which is the money division in the sport. What's the last 3m fight below feather? Maybe never? Still I have no idea, maybe the offer was legit, in which case serves them right for Donaire losing badly
I agree its Arum that's being bitter, but now that certain fighters are locked in to either Showtime or HBO the feud is now even more impossible to overcome.
I'm still mad I didn't get to see Donaire-Mares before the losses. I KNOW Donaire must be pissed. He could've made his biggest payday ever, but instead Arum makes him fight a guy with a more difficult style that was all wrong for Donaire - Rigonduex.
Good posts all around man. I agree Mares would have been an easier matchup for Donaire, I'm just a little skeptical of the 3m offer while they were paying Mares peanuts. It's just such an outsized offer (with no date and site?), though I thought the same with Povetkin Wlad, and that seems to be happening (I expect sketchiness still).
Arum started the feud, he's bitter Oscar left, Golden Boy would happily take promoter fees to send their guys for big fights.
Yes Danny is some type of joke.
I agree its Arum that's being bitter, but now that certain fighters are locked in to either Showtime or HBO the feud is now even more impossible to overcome.
I'm still mad I didn't get to see Donaire-Mares before the losses. I KNOW Donaire must be pissed. He could've made his biggest payday ever, but instead Arum makes him fight a guy with a more difficult style that was all wrong for Donaire - Rigonduex.
The problem is we're not sure if Floyd will fight Pacquiao if he (Pac) decided to leave TR. Floyd had been contradicting himself since day one. Why would I believe Floyd now?
We also got Pac DLH where Pac was a solid underdog. Also Chavez Sergio, where the marketable TR guy was a big underdog
Good point on the Pacquiao-DLH fight, but it was a win-win situation for Manny as most would say he was simply too small if he lost (Manny was a lightweight then), and he'd gain exposure and a good reputation as havin "the balls" to challenge a much bigger fighter. Of course we all know what really happened.
Sergio Martinez is a Dibella fighter, not Goldenboy.
I'm still not sure what started the fued. Joint PPVs bring less profits to the promoters but both fighters gain exposure and big paydays so what's the problem?
Oh and yea I have no doubt Manny Pacquiao would KILL Danny Garcia! Pacquiao loves wide punchers who lack a good straight right.
Arum: I kept Chavez from Martinez. I was chicken.
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-i-kept-chavez-from-martinez-i-chicken--54992
And yet Chavez fought him 1 year after barely winning the title vs featherfisted Zbik. He was a massive underdog here on NSB, much wider than with the bookies.
Dude signed on to a six fight contract after Mosley.
As for beforehand, it was going good before then. If he stays after his contract is over, then we have a problem
If this is true (im not doubting you) then he needs to beat Rios in style. Get another solid win at WW or two.
End his contract, cash out and fight Floyd.
We also got Pac DLH where Pac was a solid underdog. Also Chavez Sergio, where the marketable TR guy was a big underdog
Arum: I kept Chavez from Martinez. I was chicken.
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-i-kept-chavez-from-martinez-i-chicken--54992
Remember when Top Rank and Goldenboy were working together? We had the Cotto vs Mosley fight where Cotto was a 2 to 1 favorite and then we got Pavlik vs Hopkins where Pavlik was a 3 to 1 favorite. The TR fighter was the favorite both times which shows how afraid Arum is of losing.
Its obvious Arum is milking Pacquiao for more fights. Unlike Mayweather, Arum is the official promoter and he makes big bucks off Pacquiao PPVs even though they sell less. Talk of a potential Pacquiao-Mayweather fight only helps to sell more Pacquiao PPVs to Mayweather fans and casual fans. I honestly think Arum was eventually planning to seek a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight but he let it marinate for too long and Pacquiao picked up 2 losses while simultaneously losing bargaining power.
BTW, Pacquiao has the perfect style to absolutely KILL Danny Garcia.
We also got Pac DLH where Pac was a solid underdog. Also Chavez Sergio, where the marketable TR guy was a big underdog
Manny just hiding behind Arum. The last time he resigned Manny said he did it with Arum's promise to get him Floyd. Well a week later Arum began talking about Rios:D Rios was already lined up like Margarito and Clottey were. Manny knows he can continue being protected and promoted(hyped) with Arum. If Arum believe Pac could beat Floyd the fight would had happened long ago.
Remember when Top Rank and Goldenboy were working together? We had the Cotto vs Mosley fight where Cotto was a 2 to 1 favorite and then we got Pavlik vs Hopkins where Pavlik was a 3 to 1 favorite. The TR fighter was the favorite both times which shows how afraid Arum is of losing.
Its obvious Arum is milking Pacquiao for more fights. Unlike Mayweather, Arum is the official promoter and he makes big bucks off Pacquiao PPVs even though they sell less. Talk of a potential Pacquiao-Mayweather fight only helps to sell more Pacquiao PPVs to Mayweather fans and casual fans. I honestly think Arum was eventually planning to seek a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight but he let it marinate for too long and Pacquiao picked up 2 losses while simultaneously losing bargaining power.
BTW, Pacquiao has the perfect style to absolutely KILL Danny Garcia.
because he'd get sued for breach of contract...
why cant floyd leave GB?... becuase he cant promote his fights by himself .. one of manny's reasons too with TR ....
Because he's protected by Arum. You think Pac wants to go anywhere near Broner, Garcia, Matthysse, or Floyd? Hell no...
:lol1:
Pacquiao beats all 3 of them rather easily.
There is no1 there to fight,Arum has no fighters from 140-154 unless we get recycled fights over and over and over again..If he leaves he can fight
Broner
Garcia
Alexander
Mallinaggi
Mattyshee
Floyd
Canelo
Khan
and many more
Arum is holding him down
cause he's under contract?
Manny just hiding behind Arum. The last time he resigned Manny said he did it with Arum's promise to get him Floyd. Well a week later Arum began talking about Rios:D Rios was already lined up like Margarito and Clottey were. Manny knows he can continue being protected and promoted(hyped) with Arum. If Arum believe Pac could beat Floyd the fight would had happened long ago.
The guy said Manny never ducked like Floyd, so you sound like you are mad Floyd did what you defend Manny for. Golovkin lover?
No. It is possible to be an objective fan of the sport, you know?
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