this is a good listen. people are so quick to judge. thinking they know everything.
Fisher sounds like an fucken idiot in this video. But I noticed the sneaky conniving argument that he made that probably got passed over in the vid. He said “if he had illegal wraps in sparring” with all of us surrounding him angle got away with that. What a dumb fucken comment. Like he can’t go into a fight with illegal wraps. I’d speak on it more but I’d be beating a dead horse.
I never heard Pac say Marg hit him the hardest,what i did hear him say is that Margarito hurt him to the body.Margarito weighed 165 for the Pac fight and Pac weighed 150.With Pac not being use to fighting fighters that big and Pac being a small fighter,of course Pac gonna feel some pain.But Pac was never wobbled,never held his stomach in pain and never was stunned in that fight.
And as far as the Cotto fight goes,how is Margarito having a bad eye gonna effect his pinches?Margarito caught Cotto with clean shots in the rematch and it did not have an effect on Cotto.And Are you saying no illegal substance was found in Margarito glove?Margarito never disputed that he got caught with loaded gloves,he just claimed that he didn`t know his gloves were loaded.
Those two fights were night and day in terms of what Cotto took. He didn't hold, clinch, or have any defensive game plan against Margarito in the first fight apart from try to hit him more and then back-peddle.
He got it cleanly in the first fight a lot and was taking a beating to the body and face early in the fight until the end. He didn't take anything even remotely close to that in the rematch. In fact, all the punishment combined in the rematch didn't equal the damage done with that one huge body shot that doubled him over in the 2/3 round of the first fight.
Cotto took ten times the punishment in the first fight with no game plan. If you still have problems differentiating the two fights, and what was clearly the differnce between them, you're just blind and ****ing stupid.
Cotto got hit more cleanly with hard, flush punches from a still prime Margarito more in the first three rounds than in the entire rematch, start to finish. It really isn't hard to understand what happened.
Margarito was a super tough fighter that got the most out of his abilities. I agree with Dougie that Margarito was clean except for the Mosley fight. The problem was Margarito partied for 5 months straight after beating Cotto and was terribly out of shape leading up to Mosley. He tried to take a short cut and got caught. I believe it was his only time he cheated but it will always be with him. I've always liked him and always will even though he erred greatly with that decision.
they had both fought once in 18 months leading up to the fight period thats it thats all who cares about time off before that there was no ring rust and of course cottos face was marked up in the rematch he got hit with just as many clean punches as the first fight but miraculously he was not hurt and did not go down your just proving my point shnitsnap
Margarito had two separate year long lay-offs. He was a blind dead man going into that rematch. And no he didnt land as many clean punches. What the hell were you watching? Or did you even watch? Probably just slurped up whatever jizz HBO shot in your mouth
So the California State Athletic Commission decided on a whim, let's frame Antonio Margarito, never mind the fact that he's a huge draw, all action, and is coming off the biggest win of his career. We'll just take his wraps and pay off Nazim to catch him. :lol1: This is why I'll never believe this is just a conspiracy. Makes no sense.
Why did Attorney General Karen Chapelle want to submit evidence that she said showed Margarito cheated against Miguel Cotto in their first match? The only reason it wasn't allowed was because this fight took place outside of California, therefore they didn't have jurisdiction.
He tried to cheat against Mosley and he cheated against Miguel Cotto in their first fight.
And that is a nice ass.:hitit:
Prove he loads his gloves.
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So the California State Athletic Commission decided on a whim, let's frame Antonio Margarito, never mind the fact that he's a huge draw, all action, and is coming off the biggest win of his career. We'll just take his wraps and pay off Nazim to catch him. :lol1: This is why I'll never believe this is just a conspiracy. Makes no sense.
Why did Attorney General Karen Chapelle want to submit evidence that she said showed Margarito cheated against Miguel Cotto in their first match? The only reason it wasn't allowed was because this fight took place outside of California, therefore they didn't have jurisdiction.
He tried to cheat against Mosley and he cheated against Miguel Cotto in their first fight.
so basically he's saying he didnt cheat that much a cheat is a cheat.....just like saying he just used a weak dose of steroids to win the fight
Or in the case of the guy in your avi, elbows to the throat and sucker punches.
they had both fought once in 18 months leading up to the fight period thats it thats all who cares about time off before that there was no ring rust and of course cottos face was marked up in the rematch he got hit with just as many clean punches as the first fight but miraculously he was not hurt and did not go down your just proving my point shnitsnap
So you just going to outright lie and think nobody is going to check you with facts?
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=miguel-cotto-antonio-margarito-compubox
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=cotto-margarito-rematch-compubox
"you ain't got to lie craig"
It's all there is to it if you're a simplistic spaztard.
Margarito was off a year after Mosley and then another year after Pacquiao. Unlike Cotto, he didn't run for the hills against Pacquaio - he went forward with a broken orbital bone and took several flush shots to the face.
Margarito was a walking one eyed zombie in the rematch. Cotto also fought a different fight to his credit. And lets not act like Cotto's face wasn't marked up after that fight.
they had both fought once in 18 months leading up to the fight period thats it thats all who cares about time off before that there was no ring rust and of course cottos face was marked up in the rematch he got hit with just as many clean punches as the first fight but miraculously he was not hurt and did not go down your just proving my point shnitsnap
Capetillo admitted putting something in there that didn't belong and said it was old gauze. He got suspended indefinetly. Margo got suspended for a year because he hires his corner and is responsible for what they do.
If the test would had come negative for anything they would had a nice lawsuit against the commision for lost wages and reputation.
Why would Nazim lie? Mosley was almost out of the big picture of top contenders and needed that fight.
...."A fascinating interview with Mr. Richardson in which he not only mentions how he discovered Marg's loaded wraps, but why he was looking out for them in the first place. He mentions that, in the Cotto fight, Margarito was throwing with abandon and that his hands weren't being hurt, even though he was hitting Cotto in place that boxers try to stay away from (elbows, crown of the head, etc...)...."
Dougie LOVES him some Margs. He and Kim GAVE MARGS HIS NICKNAME YEARS AGO and they have followed him forever. Hard to not think there is some bias at play here.
Go watch the first Cotto/Margarito fight again.Margarito hurt Cotto lots of time starting early in the fight.
Cotto never seemed too bothered until the last 3-4 rounds. No more than in the rematch.
I never heard Pac say Marg hit him the hardest,what i did hear him say is that Margarito hurt him to the body.Margarito weighed 165 for the Pac fight and Pac weighed 150.With Pac not being use to fighting fighters that big and Pac being a small fighter,of course Pac gonna feel some pain.But Pac was never wobbled,never held his stomach in pain and never was stunned in that fight.
And as far as the Cotto fight goes,how is Margarito having a bad eye gonna effect his pinches?Margarito caught Cotto with clean shots in the rematch and it did not have an effect on Cotto.And Are you saying no illegal substance was found in Margarito glove?Margarito never disputed that he got caught with loaded gloves,he just claimed that he didn`t know his gloves were loaded.
Pac not used to fighting fighters that big? He fought nothing but bigger guys. Do you know who Clottey, Cotto, Mosley, and De LaHoya are? LOL
Go watch the first Cotto/Margarito fight again.Margarito hurt Cotto lots of time starting early in the fight.
He stunned him in the 3rd, but never hurt him until the 7th. I have that fight recorded and I have watched it a few times. Not to mention, Marg is known for his power in the gym. To think Marg can't punch is ridiculous. A pinch of calcium in your gloves isn't going to give you power. Read the facts.
BS, Cotto wasn't hurt until the 7th round. Before that he was teeing off on Marg and Margs punches never hurt him. It was the accumulation of punches that hurt Cotto and it took 7 rounds.
Go watch the first Cotto/Margarito fight again.Margarito hurt Cotto lots of time starting early in the fight.