When has Floyd last fought a great counterpuncher ?

Marquez...but noone is ever going to be better than FLoyd at counter punching...unless of course if Rigodeaux wants to move up to welterweight Marquez had to move up three divisions and was at such a size disadvantage he was forced to lead just to make anything happen. Floyd is also much rangier than JMM. Judah who's an okay counter-puncher (w/o a height or reach adv.) gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights probably winning 3 or all 4 of the first four rounds and legitimately dropping Floyd in the process. However, as is so often the case w/Judah he broke down in the second half and was nearly choked to death by Roger in the middle of a round (a good reason for a DQ). Lara, Demetrius Andrade, Trout, Martinez would all be stylistically difficult fights for Floyd. In the past, Forrest and Winky would have also provided a difficult style match-up.

I never understood why people like oscar states, that to beat floyd you have to bumrush him and pressure him nonestop. To me that plays right into floyds hands, that way he can pick you apart coming in all night long. And even more telling is that the one thing all floyds victories since the Oscar fight have in common, is that all of these guys have zero counterunching ability and all try walk floyd down. I know that Castillo had some succes doing so, but floyd aint that guy enyone, and Castillo lost. Cotto witch is not a great counterpuncher, was having good succes waiting until the right moment and then explode. To me Canelo posses the exact right tools that could hurt floyd and win the fight, namly fast explosiv countecomboes. This fight is really a hardcore match up Marquez...but noone is ever going to be better than FLoyd at counter punching...unless of course if Rigodeaux wants to move up to welterweight

speaking of which TS, robert guerrero tried this strategy, and failed miserably, like marquez did, made floyd look prime

Marquez became a come forward fighter when he fought Floydweather. He had to. Floyd would not come forward. :unitedsta

way to beat mayweather is with a little bit of golovkin mixed with rigondeaux pressure, land some hits and run to not get hit for the rest of the round

I never understood why people like oscar states, that to beat floyd you have to bumrush him and pressure him nonestop. To me that plays right into floyds hands, that way he can pick you apart coming in all night long. And even more telling is that the one thing all floyds victories since the Oscar fight have in common, is that all of these guys have zero counterunching ability and all try walk floyd down. I know that Castillo had some succes doing so, but floyd aint that guy enyone, and Castillo lost. Cotto witch is not a great counterpuncher, was having good succes waiting until the right moment and then explode. To me Canelo posses the exact right tools that could hurt floyd and win the fight, namly fast explosiv countecomboes. This fight is really a hardcore match up I disagree with the part about counter puncher specifically but I get where you are going that you have to be a good boxer to beat mayweather, not a pressure fighter. A good jab is very important. DLH, Judah and Cotto all won the most rounds against floyd and a jab is largely why. Floyds good at finding what works to win, with JMM he made him lead, with Zab he was loosing the first rounds when Zab was leading because Zab was faster and beating him to the punch with the jab so he started pressing zab and backing him up and thats when he started winning rounds, roger saw it too and told him between the early rounds and floyd listened so roger isnt completely useless. Hearns is the perfect style to beat floyd, ignoring his power completely. I dont expect a KO, floyd will be thinking about that right hand the entire training camp and the entire fight, he wont get knocked out but Hearns will win with his jab, reach and speed alone based on their styles.

Canelo is overrated. He lost to Trout, he sure as fu.ck ain't beating Lara or anybody else worth a damn either. Would he even beat Vanes? I don't think so. I'm actually p1ssed off at the people who demanded this fight like it was some legitimate threat. That desperate for a Manny replacement they hype some guy totally made to order. Could of had Lara, instead we have some mediocre plodder made too order, great stuff!

Mayweather struggles with fighters who use there jab cotto had success with t so did delahoya I see canelo giving him trouble by mayweather will decision him

Marquez is probably the best pure Counterpuncher out there right now, as he counters with combinations. Floyd took that away from him with his timing and range. He turned Marquez into the the aggressor, and it did not fit well for Marquez, as he shines best when getting attacked.

Marquez...................

Marquez. Who was suckered and bamboozled and cheated and taken advantage of by a bully.

I never understood why people like oscar states, that to beat floyd you have to bumrush him and pressure him nonestop. To me that plays right into floyds hands, that way he can pick you apart coming in all night long. And even more telling is that the one thing all floyds victories since the Oscar fight have in common, is that all of these guys have zero counterunching ability and all try walk floyd down. I know that Castillo had some succes doing so, but floyd aint that guy enyone, and Castillo lost. Cotto witch is not a great counterpuncher, was having good succes waiting until the right moment and then explode. To me Canelo posses the exact right tools that could hurt floyd and win the fight, namly fast explosiv countecomboes. This fight is really a hardcore match up Exactly I would make Floyd be offensive make floyd commit. Everybody bum rushes Floyd.

He is not a pure counterpuncher, he is more of a brawler with good timing :rofl::rofl::rofl:

genaro hernandez was a great counterpuncher, as was marquez. judah was a good counterpuncher too. its hard to counter floyd, hes fast, fights in an off beat rhythm, has a great sense of distance and timing and he chooses his punches extremely well leading with jabs, hooks and rights. you try to counter him he will most likely pot shot you to death then start countering your counters on top of it. terrible game plan imo.

I never understood why people like oscar states, that to beat floyd you have to bumrush him and pressure him nonestop. To me that plays right into floyds hands, that way he can pick you apart coming in all night long. And even more telling is that the one thing all floyds victories since the Oscar fight have in common, is that all of these guys have zero counterunching ability and all try walk floyd down. I know that Castillo had some succes doing so, but floyd aint that guy enyone, and Castillo lost. Cotto witch is not a great counterpuncher, was having good succes waiting until the right moment and then explode. To me Canelo posses the exact right tools that could hurt floyd and win the fight, namly fast explosiv countecomboes. This fight is really a hardcore match up marquez and floyd owned him. but I do agree with the last few lines canelo has the tools to pull off the upset whether he will or not remains to be seen.

canelo isnt a great counter puncher himself

castillo was a great counterpuncher, but he often moved forward. cotto has great counters as well, but he's not a counterpuncher. he's more of a boxer, especially today. it's honestly best to lead with mayweather. outwork him. try, anyway. playing a counterpunching game with the best fighter on the planet is a bad idea. ask marquez. admittedly, marquez was way too small that night, and looked like he was fighitng his older brother.

He fought one of the best counter punchers of this era in JMM and dominated his @ss. JMM the best counterpuncher of all time!!!! ! GTFO

He is not a pure counterpuncher, he is more of a brawler with good timing Duuuuude..... (sigh)

He fought one of the best counter punchers of this era in JMM and dominated his @ss.