no disrespect because i like his style but ever since the khan fight
he struggled against old morales
looked fat and sluggish vs alexander who whooped his ass
and before lopez got stopped, which he shouldnt have, he was getting his butt kicked left right n centre
at 147, he isnt a beast
i see broner boxing his head off and probably koing him some where around 7 or 8 especially if the fight is at welterweight
i think maidana needs 2 move back down to 140
I simply don't see how anyone can say Maidana isn't anything special and then turn right around and say "Broner will box his ears off".
Implying Broner is some superb boxer I guess. All I've seen him do is stand in front of smaller guys and out-muscle them. $h!t will not fly with Maidana.
I agree. Broner, for example, has won titles for a reason: he has enjoyed the easiest road. We still don't know if Maidana is or is not "good enough", but he has had to face many hard tests.
I give a bit of credit to broner for his 135 title as at least Demarco is a decent fighter but his 130 vacant title win vs a bum shouldn't even count. his 147 title win wasn't great either but its decent.
To say maidana isn't good enough to win a title is a bit harsh as against Kotelnik he came really close, same as vs Khan, the judges gave him at least 5 rounds.
Maidana would have beaten Pauline at 147 for the title IMO, Pauline doesn't clinch and doesn't hit hard enough to last the 12 vs Maidana. He can beat broner as well for reasons I've already stated in this thread.
The problem is Maidana is very beatable if he can't KO you.
A bit unlucky to not win the WBA vs Kotelnik, SD loss which could have easily gone his way,. after he beats Broner i guess he will be good enough.
I agree. Broner, for example, has won titles for a reason: he has enjoyed the easiest road. We still don't know if Maidana is or is not "good enough", but he has had to face many hard tests.
He's a decent contender at best. He's never won a title for a reason, he's not good enough
A bit unlucky to not win the WBA vs Kotelnik, SD loss which could have easily gone his way,. after he beats Broner i guess he will be good enough.
That's very true, he was much bigger than his opponents. That's probably why people (such as myself lol) were led on to believe that he was a much heavier puncher than he is. Either way, I'm looking forward to Maidana vs Broner, hbu? :boxing:
I'm looking forward to it too. In my eyes Broner is the fav but Maidana is tough as hell, hits hard and has a great chin. It's the toughest fight of Broner's career thus far and I for one want to see how he comes through it. After that, the world is at his feet....unless he ducks every credible opponent.
Broner doesn't have that great power. He has faced guys who are B calibre at best, and that includes Paulie. Demarco is a C level fighter to me.
Broner has speed and strength, but IMO his power is overrated. He always had huge size advantage (Build) over the guys he has faced. He has got a great body for making weight though, his frame is huge. Perhaps he has non dense bones or something.
That's very true, he was much bigger than his opponents. That's probably why people (such as myself lol) were led on to believe that he was a much heavier puncher than he is. Either way, I'm looking forward to Maidana vs Broner, hbu? :boxing:
Broner struggled and lost against a smaller ponce de leon.
Broner also lost against espn FNF fighter quintero
Broner struggled with a past prime aging malignaggi
Broner is berto 2.0, just pure marketing hype no substance.
Easy work for maidana...KO 6-7
Maidana is a very good fighter.
Better than most guys at 147
Struggles with boxers though
Robert Garcia has got him in shape and boxing nicely at 147 using his jab
Watch this mofo before he retires.. he is going to take no mercy on any of his next opponents. He has no hype and has proven his worth.
Don't go underating him. He'd knock Khan out in a rematch and Alexander had to hold a fat version him 100+ times to feel safe.
Maidana > Lopez, Ortiz, Karass, Berto, Brook, Rios [Guerrero? - also soon to be expose Broner
For a guy who slowly became very basic and crude while at 140 he is doing pretty well....
I also like Maidana's style. Very fan friendly, but I agree that he's not elite (or something special as you put it). I still think he has a good chance of beating Broner, however.
Based on styles, Broner takes it, but his power didn't translate to 147 very well. If Broner's body grows into that WW frame and has the pop he did at 135, I'd favor Broner easily, but that has yet to be seen.
Broner doesn't have that great power. He has faced guys who are B calibre at best, and that includes Paulie. Demarco is a C level fighter to me.
Broner has speed and strength, but IMO his power is overrated. He always had huge size advantage (Build) over the guys he has faced. He has got a great body for making weight though, his frame is huge. Perhaps he has non dense bones or something.
Maidana is a tough, brawler with a good chin. Now, I do think that his style is made for Broner, and I would lean towards a Broner win.
Saying that, I think Maidana isn't going to be some undersized fighter who Broner can stand right in front of and just trade shots with.
Broner always stands and trades with people, he isn't a boxer mover like Devon or Khan and he won't hold and clinch over 100 times either.. the people who are not giving Maidana a shot at winning are being silly and overrating broner big time.
The biggest problem here is that broner's defense is being overrated by his fans, he gets Lazy at times and literally just stands there and covers up without throwing anything back sometimes for 10-15 seconds. He does that vs Maidana and he could very well get F ucked up.
If Broner can't put a dent in him, then i feel Maidana stops Broner because of Broners lack of running and clinching (this is because i don't expect him to fight like Devon did vs Maidana but you never know i suppose)
Maidana is a tough, brawler with a good chin. Now, I do think that his style is made for Broner, and I would lean towards a Broner win.
Saying that, I think Maidana isn't going to be some undersized fighter who Broner can stand right in front of and just trade shots with.
Basically, Showtime and Golden Boy are hoping that Broner-Maidana is this decade's version of Floyd-Gatti, a star-making performance/PPV debut that launches a new star.
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