Ok after reading the Mayweather\Cotto scoring post I had to re watch the Floyd\Oscar fight. Watching that fight live I felt Floyd Won. 6 years later I now hear folks saying oscar won. Anyway I have that fight 8 rounds to 4. I think the fact that we expect him to win every minute of each fight is crazy.
I also always hear zab won the first 4 rounds against floyd then he gassed out, again I watched the first 4 rounds and scored them 2-2. After that he won every round.
I'm always hearing Shane won the first two rounds and then gassed out..lol.. Floyd won the first round, Completley lost the first 2 mins of the second, but had took control of the round the last minute but still lost the round. After that he won every round.
Now I have watched the first castillo fight and definitely feel that floyd either lost or got an draw. The fight was very close very close. I'm certainly glad he gave him a direct rematch. Going back and watching alot of these fights you can hear how he wouldn't have any love for the HBO commentary crew. They **** on him thru out the fight but gave him credit with a "I thought he would lose or give a great performance..
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yeah prime Oscar same one that beat felix Trinidad right Oscar was not much different when he fought mayweather then oscar had all the advantages in his favor Floyd would've beat him in any age especially now Floyd really could've fought Oscar better but I do think he was alittle nervous about that being his first fight at 154 so he fought more cautious but if he went for what he really knew he would've beatn him easier
Re watching the first Castillo fight a couple of years back, I had Mayweather winning by one point, but I can easily see it being a draw or close decision loss! But the way people talk about it now is as if he was battered around the ring, when it was a close fight either way! 115-113
Second Castillo was easily Mayweather's by at least 4 rounds 116-112.
Zab fight I had 117-111 to Floyd..
De la Hoya I had similar 117-111, but you can see maybe 116-112 for aggression, even though a lot of it was ineffective aggression!
Mosley I gave, 119-109 to Mayweather, Shane had one good round..
Cotto fight I had 116-112
Odlh and Judah fights were clear wins for Floyd. The first Castillo fight I had it a draw. The fight was really close and it depends in what you like in a fighter.
Accuracy or pressure
The whole "Oscar beat Floyd" thing happened because morons who started watching the sport in 2009 saw a SD on BoxRec. Almost everyone at the fight party I had for May-DLH wanted Oscar to win, but at the end everyone had Mayweather winning. I'm convinced people who say "Oscar won" or even that it was a draw have never watched the fight.
but it becomes truth for the new people..then you hear even Canelo say, DeLa Hoya won. I'm a homer when it comes to Mayweather, but I also don't want to sound retarded just blindly following a fighter, so I always have to go back and watch to be sure I'm not lying to my self..
Mayweather looked a little scared against DLH. He could have been scared of his power or he was a little overwhelmed by the event, he also looked slow in that fight which might have been the weight.
Watching the fight again I noticed that Oscar took away Floyd's springing left hook. Floyd looked very cautious and I do feel he waited for Oscar to tire out and that really never happened to the extent he was looking for. The variable was that floyd didn't have a lot of pop at that time fighting at 154 plus the gloves were selected by Oscar. Instead of selecting gloves reyes gloves that are punchers gloves, Oscar selected the more padded gloves for floyd.
The whole "Oscar beat Floyd" thing happened because morons who started watching the sport in 2009 saw a SD on BoxRec. Almost everyone at the fight party I had for May-DLH wanted Oscar to win, but at the end everyone had Mayweather winning. I'm convinced people who say "Oscar won" or even that it was a draw have never watched the fight.
I scored it to De La Hoya the first time I watched it, but it was a pretty biased score-card. When I re-watched it with a level head, I had it 8-4 Mayweather, the same score I've given every time I've watched it since then.
The Cotto, Mosley and Judah fights were all also clear wins for Mayweather. Cotto made Mayweather fight all the way 'till the end, and landed some good shots, but I had that pretty wide as well. Mosley only really did anything in the second round, and Judah only fought on even terms with Mayweather for 4 rounds. The myth that Judah dominated those rounds is pretty common now, but from what I remember it wasn't as if Judah clearly won all four of those rounds.
As for the first Castillo fight, only scored it once or twice. I had it very slightly in Mayweathers favour. If I remember correctly, it as JLC giving away too many early rounds that lost it for him on my card. Haven't watched it in a long time though, so can't comment with much certainty.
Mayweather looked a little scared against DLH. He could have been scared of his power or he was a little overwhelmed by the event, he also looked slow in that fight which might have been the weight.
Watched Dela Hoya vs Mayweather last night because I hadn't watched it in a while and scored the fight 8-4 mayweather but it wasn't really close 7 rounds clearly for Mayweather ( 1,5,6,8,9,10,11) 2 for Oscar( 2,7) and 3 could have gone either way( 3,4,12). Anyone who says Oscar won is in denial and cant score.
I think that's the reason He still hates Floyd. Because he degraded him as a man made him look like a straight up punk in 24/7 And during the press conferance and then picked him apart in the ring and gave him the worst psychological beating of his career.
good point!
Lucky you man. Certain circumstances didn't allow me to watch it live.
The first Castillo fight was debatable and I can understand why many felt Floyd lost. Floyd shut down any question as to who was the better fighter in the rematch for certain.
No he didn't. It was a horribly uneventful fight that could've been a draw. Both Floyd and JLC stunk out the joint in the rematch.
Thats Texas buddy... And please learn the difference between close fight and getting robbed.
It's both Vegas and Texas. If it were the other way around, and Floyd were the champ coming in, he would've gotten 117-111, 118-112 scores.
Watched Dela Hoya vs Mayweather last night because I hadn't watched it in a while and scored the fight 8-4 mayweather but it wasn't really close 7 rounds clearly for Mayweather ( 1,5,6,8,9,10,11) 2 for Oscar( 2,7) and 3 could have gone either way( 3,4,12). Anyone who says Oscar won is in denial and cant score.
I think that's the reason He still hates Floyd. Because he degraded him as a man made him look like a straight up punk in 24/7 And during the press conferance and then picked him apart in the ring and gave him the worst psychological beating of his career.
Lucky you man. Certain circumstances didn't allow me to watch it live.
The first Castillo fight was debatable and I can understand why many felt Floyd lost. Floyd shut down any question as to who was the better fighter in the rematch for certain.
I didn't watch it in person or anything like that, just on TV with a house full of people. Most were boxing fans, but others were just there to party and kept bugging when I was trying to watch the damn fight! LOL
Yeah, I think that the first Castillo fight just stands out with people because it's the ONLY one where we can look back on and say maybe Floyd could've lost that one. Sometimes I wonder if maybe Floyd himself thought afterwards that he didn't do enough to really win (although he would never admit it), and that's why he went for the rematch right away. Like I said before though, props to him for doing so and making it clear that he could beat Castillo without any debate.
Ok after reading the Mayweather\Cotto scoring post I had to re watch the Floyd\Oscar fight. Watching that fight live I felt Floyd Won. 6 years later I now hear folks saying oscar won. Anyway I have that fight 8 rounds to 4. I think the fact that we expect him to win every minute of each fight is crazy.
I also always hear zab won the first 4 rounds against floyd then he gassed out, again I watched the first 4 rounds and scored them 2-2. After that he won every round.
I'm always hearing Shane won the first two rounds and then gassed out..lol.. Floyd won the first round, Completley lost the first 2 mins of the second, but had took control of the round the last minute but still lost the round. After that he won every round.
Now I have watched the first castillo fight and definitely feel that floyd either lost or got an draw. The fight was very close very close. I'm certainly glad he gave him a direct rematch. Going back and watching alot of these fights you can hear how he wouldn't have any love for the HBO commentary crew. They **** on him thru out the fight but gave him credit with a "I thought he would lose or give a great performance..
Just Sayin..Not dick riding, If im lying goto------>www.youtube.com
Thats awesome, so you finally to it upon yourself to rescore a fight that took place over 5yrs ago... Good job mate.. Now with those new scores go ahead and contact the 3 judges of that fight and tell them where they went wrong. Your knowledge is a huge asset to not only us fans but to the sport..
Thought Floyd easily won the first 6 rounds of the first Castillo fight. So at best Castillo deserved a draw. I don't think Jose won the last 6. He win four or five of those 6 but not all imo. Close fight but Floyd won. The rematch cleared things up as well.
The first time I watched the fight, I felt that Floyd had edged out the win against Oscar, but I didn't score it or anything (too busy drinking cold beers, and being interrupted by people wanting to talk during the rounds instead of in-between!) When I re-watched it a couple of days later, I had it 116-112 for Floyd. Maybe you could score it 115-113 if you were feeling generous to Oscar, but no way did De la Hoya win that fight.
Floyd has clearly beaten everybody he's been in the ring with. I've watched the first Castillo fight many times, and yes, I do think that Castillo deserved to win and that Floyd got lucky to come away with the decision that night, but props to him for giving Castillo the rematch right away and clearing things up.
Lucky you man. Certain circumstances didn't allow me to watch it live.
The first Castillo fight was debatable and I can understand why many felt Floyd lost. Floyd shut down any question as to who was the better fighter in the rematch for certain.
Couldn't give Oscar 7 rounds...it was certainly a competitive fight though...idk what Floyd was doing in there at times, seemed like he kinda had an off night, Oscar's jab and activity I'm sure had something to do with it but still...
The Cotto fight reminded me of it...
The first time I watched the fight, I felt that Floyd had edged out the win against Oscar, but I didn't score it or anything (too busy drinking cold beers, and being interrupted by people wanting to talk during the rounds instead of in-between!) When I re-watched it a couple of days later, I had it 116-112 for Floyd. Maybe you could score it 115-113 if you were feeling generous to Oscar, but no way did De la Hoya win that fight.
Floyd has clearly beaten everybody he's been in the ring with. I've watched the first Castillo fight many times, and yes, I do think that Castillo deserved to win and that Floyd got lucky to come away with the decision that night, but props to him for giving Castillo the rematch right away and clearing things up.