Which boxers do you think are or have been on PEDs?

Floyd, Marquez, Holyfield, Roy Jones, James Toney, Shannon Briggs, Andre Berto, Guzman, Gamboa, Mosley, Fernando Vargas, Peterson....

This thread basically turned into the Floyd groupies vs the PAC groupies. OP knows what he's doing. You were better off asking, "who do you like more, PAC or Floyd?"

Look at the pac dick lickers out in full force. They have to be gleekclub members. Oh, manny won in court so he is innocent.lol. take your tongues out of his ass crack. The thread asked about fighters you think are on peds, not those you think are clean. And manny was on peds imo and will do them again. He will be exposed. Ggg is on them also i feel.

Would be crazy if Floyd in the end was the one taking roids after his whole obsession and 100% all natural. He has symptons: reciding hairline, anger, bi-polar much like Barry Bonds lmao lol Marquez

Floyd was using PEDs and covered up a positive test result according to one of the best boxing writers in the game. Marquez was using for the 4th fight with Pac of course. Gamboa and Peterson were using. Pac might've been using unknowingly AKA Ariza shakes. James Toney has used PEDs. I think most contemporary boxers at the highest level of the sport have dabbled in PEDs at some point. The high rewards are too tempting at the elite level despite the high risk that comes with it.

It'd be easier for me to list the fighters I don't believed have messed around with drugs at some point in their career.

Would be crazy if Floyd in the end was the one taking roids after his whole obsession and 100% all natural. He has symptons: reciding hairline, anger, bi-polar much like Barry Bonds lmao complete idiot

Would be crazy if Floyd in the end was the one taking roids after his whole obsession and 100% all natural. He has symptons: reciding hairline, anger, bi-polar much like Barry Bonds lmao

Pacquiao is the only fighter that has gone to court and won against accusations. He won millions. He wouldn't of gone to court if he was dirty. I don't even think Floyd is using because its a fact that hes on that sh*t. And Thomas Hauser aka the most legit boxing reporter already wrote a paper about how he failed 3 tests in a row and they covered that up Marquez hiring Memo and looking like the Rock is all the proof I need.

Been a fight fan for 40 years but am pretty ignorant of all the PED stuff. I know it's rampant now but I can't really tell other than Marquez. Have been a fan since the 90's and the way his body changed at aged 29 is unreal. Not convinced either way about Pacquiao. I've been to the Philippines & worked with a load & the diet is not one to bulk you up. The fact that he rose up in weight after his move to training Stateside & improved diet & background team may have had a lot to do with it. On the other hand there is that smug Ariza fella. Again, I don't know enough about PEDs to make an informed guess. Andy Ruiz Jnr maybe???

I agree with you on Holyfield. I believe he's been juicing all of his career as an heavyweight. He actually trained with Lee Haney. He credits Lee with getting him up in weight from Light Heavy to Heavyweight. We all know how juiced those bodybuilders were back in those days. Thanks for the 411 on Lee Haney and Evander, did not know that. That would kind of explain some of Evander's fights like the first Moorer clash and the Toney fight where Evander looked like he hit the proverbial brick wall...which anyone that has ever juiced can tell you that when you peak out, it's a spiral downhill where you get weaker almost literally on the bench press doing reps. And then you have to get creative with a new stacking regiment or you just lay off that ish for a year plus. I just remember saying how is this the same guy against Toney looking weak in the clinches compared to the dude that bullied the bully in Tyson 1 especially in that 9th and 10th round. Like a darn juiced up thoroughbred running the Kent Derby.

These guys need to start eating more iguana...

floyd obviously retires and comes back much bigger many people in his gym have been busted for ped's obsession with steroids playing on his mind(guilty conscience) refuses to be tested year round only does usada and makes sure they only test for certain peds and not others wtf? also positive tests are only released to the promoter what's the point? won't fight pac now that pac is using vada and he allegedly tested positive multiple times already even with his roids he won't fight the best. waste of space.

Pac probaly got slipped some stuff in Ariza shakes (Then after all the drug claims Roach and Pac probaly both got suspicious and starting asking Alex some questions) Floyd was either cycling some sht or just was scared of Pac.. take your pick. Berto, PEDerson, Marquez... (such a shame for Marquez :( I think alot of boxers go to these guys who are effectively drug dealers and they sort them out without actually ever having to verbally indicate that they want something that they can get past tests with... Peterson sham was the worst since this F8ggatron looked it up and devised the plan himself.. then outright lied to the public making up stupid stories.

Probably Danny Garcia.

I suspected Holyfield of juicing for Tyson I and II. Something about his heart condition after the Bowe fights and then his traps and shoulders were touching his ears (no pun intended, Evander) versus Mike. Dude's biceps, traps, and wingspan were unreal in those fights even though Evander was already carved like a T-day turkey beforehand. I suspected Manny of maybe not outright juicing, but probably being on EPO or something similar from the DLH fight to Hatton. I think Manny may have stopped around the Cotto joint or Margs. And then of course I think JMM was definitely on PEDs, maybe HGH stacked with some other things, for this last Pacq fight. I'm sorry but drinking your own piss doesn't give you those fricking shoulders...damn dude 's back and shoulders were jacked up like a middle weight. I agree with you on Holyfield. I believe he's been juicing all of his career as an heavyweight. He actually trained with Lee Haney. He credits Lee with getting him up in weight from Light Heavy to Heavyweight. We all know how juiced those bodybuilders were back in those days.

I suspected Holyfield of juicing for Tyson I and II. Something about his heart condition after the Bowe fights and then his traps and shoulders were touching his ears (no pun intended, Evander) versus Mike. Dude's biceps, traps, and wingspan were unreal in those fights even though Evander was already carved like a T-day turkey beforehand. I suspected Manny of maybe not outright juicing, but probably being on EPO or something similar from the DLH fight to Hatton. I think Manny may have stopped around the Cotto joint or Margs. And then of course I think JMM was definitely on PEDs, maybe HGH stacked with some other things, for this last Pacq fight. I'm sorry but drinking your own piss doesn't give you those fricking shoulders...damn dude 's back and shoulders were jacked up like a middle weight.