Juan Manuel Marquez has an Iron chin

No, he has amazing recuperative powers and an iron determination to win.

I'm just saying it's not only chin. JMM is in the moment, never looks to be not focusing on dealing with a punch/KD, his full effort goes into remaining calm and thinking logically what's necessary to avoid that again and even win the round. Clev's got a good chin and look at last night, even just after a couple of hard tags he lost ALL focus leading to it happening again. JMM usually does the opposite. Clev waves a heavy KO artist in and gets KD, doesn't even take a full 8 seconds recovery, looks confused, surprised this is happening to him and un-aware of what's going to stop it, making re-occurrence and KO even more likely. JMM, those Q's don't go into his psyche imo. He wastes no time, he's thinking why did that happen, what shall I do to avoid it, and when shall I get up. The only effective Q's a highly intelligent tactician and mentally strong boxer looking to recover (good chin or not), should be asking himself.

He's one of those guys who gets knocked down a lot but never actually looks hurt.

yeah that was the only time I ever thought he was going to be finished, that was the hardest shot I ever seen him take flush, all of Katsidis weight was into that shot and it landed flush and dropped him like a sack of bricks. Amazing he recovered. But people also forget that JMM gets hit a lot, scrubs hit him a lot too, he is def an overachiever because he has a lot of flaws as well defensively. He never covers up or clinches to avoid shots mainly side steps and steps back and counters, he is an offensive counter puncher that's most of his defense is off of counters backing up, he gets hit a lot so his chin is iron to me with how often he gets hit in fights he still never been stopped at all. I think this the Marquez after age 30, he didnt get hit often and had better legs which he used a lot. He wasn't quite the offensive counter puncher until he aged a bit and went up in weight which slowed him down.

Has nothing to do with reacting under pressure, his body and brain just reacts different to getting knocked down. Other guys will wobble or really be dizzy, his body just doesn't react that way. You can't tell yourself don't wobble lol, if you get wobbled you get wobbled, has nothing to do with mind control bro. its just how you take a punch. I've been wobbled before and tried to compose myself but my legs were like noodles, my balance was off. His will is another thing entirely different, when he gets hurt or sees his blood he will get cautious but his back step combos will be more aggressive like he is fighting for his life. He knows how to make guys come to him, the reason he lost to Floyd is because Floyd forced him to be the aggressor which is something JMM sucks at he can't pressure fighter all the times he been hurt or dropped its usually from him coming forward.

I agree with you that I dont see a fighter going down as a bad chin, fighters are going to get wobbled or go down at some point but its about how they take them. JMM has taken some big shots and never been knocked out, his recovery is amazing.

Some fighters panic when they get knocked down or see the sight of their own blood. Marquez just comes back even harder. He just knows how to react under pressure.

He doesnt have a bad chin,, but he doesnt have an iron one either,,,, He does have an iron will,,,,,, An iron chinned guy would be oliver mccall who has taken shots from the best heavy's for over 2 decades and has never been down What this guy said. Marquez determination and will is better than his chin

His chin is definitely decent. KD or not, the fact is he's taken some serious flush shots, not only was he just not knocked out like many would be, he usually recovers often to win the round. I think a lot of it is also his focus like someone else mentioned. He's become accustom of how to behave when in trouble like that, he know's how to handle it and even turn it around. You can tell in the eyes the guys that take even a flush shot, and just look like it's undressing their focus and making them sloppy. Khan in many fights, and specifically Cleverley last night are examples, sinking lower then troubled largely distracted. Opposite to JMM.

Roy Jones Jr said it best, when Larry Merchant said how many straight lefts can Marquez take from Pacquiao and not even blink. Roy said its cuz he is very focused, and calm in there. Always thinking But damn those 2 lefts Pacquiao hit him with in the 2nd fight, the one that knocked him down, and the one that staggered him, did not faze him...he ain't got no worries!! lmao he just knows how to keep cool during panic

I can never get how he got up from the second fight knock down. This is why I found these so called steroid accusation laughable, if JMM was going to get accuse of taking steroid then their second fight where Pac put him down with that short crispy left hand would be the moment where the light would go off in people's heads, I couldn't believe he got up from that KD. and not not got up but went on to kick ass.

Not an iron chin at all...more of an iron will

I agree theres a big Difference between how Marquez Lara and Gamboa get up from their kd's than how let's say Khan it's all about legs and composure getting kd out of nowherre has to do more with balance than with chin the damage that you absorb and causes on you now that's the chin and thats why when Khan gets up he starts doing the bambi impressions.

Believe it or not the one and only time JMM had me worried for bieng dropped was against Katsidis. It took him longer than usual to get up he looked almost done, I was frightened I thought that was going to go down as a tko L. yeah that was the only time I ever thought he was going to be finished, that was the hardest shot I ever seen him take flush, all of Katsidis weight was into that shot and it landed flush and dropped him like a sack of bricks. Amazing he recovered. But people also forget that JMM gets hit a lot, scrubs hit him a lot too, he is def an overachiever because he has a lot of flaws as well defensively. He never covers up or clinches to avoid shots mainly side steps and steps back and counters, he is an offensive counter puncher that's most of his defense is off of counters backing up, he gets hit a lot so his chin is iron to me with how often he gets hit in fights he still never been stopped at all.

Believe it or not the one and only time JMM had me worried for bieng dropped was against Katsidis. It took him longer than usual to get up he looked almost done, I was frightened I thought that was going to go down as a tko L.

I think he does have an iron chin, not the best in the business, but iron nonetheless. Nacho once said in an old interview that JMM was he greatest overachiever because he wasn't blessed with great foot or hand speed, especially foot (it's the reason he was never crazy about the Floyd fight, with good reason, lol). Becasue his feet were slower he constantly anticipates to atone for it. But if he guesses wrong he is vulnerable to feet being out of position, hence flash knockdowns. I woulnd't argue with Nacho, and it explains why he does appear to recuperate so well......he usually isn't hurt, just caught in a bad stance.

He has six losses on his record but how many legit losses does he have? He lost his 1st pro fight by DQ. Does anyone know why he was DQ'd? His second loss is to Freddie Norwood. Was this a legit loss?(i have not seen Norwood and John fight but would appreciate opnions as whether they are legit losses) Third loss was Chris John. Was this a legit loss? Fourth loss was Manny. I actually scored it for JMM (i know many will disagree). Fifth loss was FMJ. I KNOW he got dominated. Many circumstances led to the domination. However, in a rematch I think it will be a much better fight but will have the same result. Sixth loss was against Manny. I scored it decisively for Marquez. If I remember correctly I had it 9 to 3 when scoring it live. Then after trying hard to give Manny rounds the closest i had it was 7-5. What say you?

"Iron chin?" Can't agree. JMM has incredible recuperative powers, agree with the OP on that, but his chin is no where near "iron" in my view. To get the iron label bombs and bullets have to bounce off of you like they were spit wads. Marquez goes down hard when he takes a squared up homerun shot.

I think he has a very good chin and great recovery but in my opinion he was bably hurt in the first Pacquiao fight and he took some time getting to his feet. They were not flash knock downs. He was hurt and did not beat the count by much. Pacquiao also hurt him in their last fight. I doubt Bradley has the power to hurt him much.

It's from all that piss he's been drinking