Wladimir Klitschko vs Aleksander Powetkin

Completely agree with you here. Povetkin hasn't shown in any of his fights, the levels to compete with Wladimir. He hasn't fought the proper opposition, and mainly has been hyped due to 1) his gold medal and 2) because he's being bigged up as the best of the rest. Everybody wants to find a credible opponent for Wlad and when Haye flunked it became Povetkin. After Povetkin it will be Pulev. I don't believe in either. Povetkin is a good fighter, and would probably be competitive with most others. But the fight with Huck still rings alarm bells as far as I'm concerned. I think he'll go out on his shield but ultimately be stopped in six. yea,,the huck fight does sound alarm bells. im chalking it up due to an off night and looking past huck,,,but I could be wrong

powetkin was outboxed by marco huck. stupid fight against a bum. yea,,,that was a very bad performance but I think hes looked a lot better since then,,,altho his opponents have been bad,,so who knows for sure. I just think it was an off night for him. we shall see

Loosing to Wlad is no shame and not a sign fighter should retire. IMO he would beat Pulev and Fury atm and would give Haye a very tough fight which could go either way. No shame at all! But the beating he might take could propel him into retirement. Or just because he lost his 0, he could go down the same route as ibragimov. I don't think he would beat either of the three. I have never been sold on Povetkin. But he might do of course. They would all be good fights.

That's what people were saying! And he was 42-1 or something like that. But that fight right there is probably the biggest upset in the history of boxing. Probably top 10 in sports history. So 99/100 it does work like that, but as always, anyone in the heavyweight division has a chance. Anyone 200+ can KO another man. I just find it extremely unlikely. I agree. I just think that Povetkin will get smashed. After that, the hype is gone, he hasn't got the 0 anymore. His fanbase is limited, will it fall or grow after that? Will his managers still back him to the same extent? Let's see, but he could definitely make some good fights with the likes of Haye, Pulev, Fury etc. I just think he would come up short in those as well. Loosing to Wlad is no shame and not a sign fighter should retire. IMO he would beat Pulev and Fury atm and would give Haye a very tough fight which could go either way.

Yep. Exactly. Povetkin isn't hyped so much as most of the heavies now with any talent get the same treatment. People look at their chances with Wlad and then say they're garbage because they can't picture them becoming champion. Boom. Written off. And all that focus on the Huck fight? You might as well just watch Buster Douglas against Oliver McCall and say "If that's all he's got for McCall the odds against Tyson should be about 45-1. He's a bum. Meaningless fight." It doesn't work like that, people! :lol1: I hope not because he could make exciting fights with a lot of other guys after this. But I can definitely see that happening. That's what people were saying! And he was 42-1 or something like that. But that fight right there is probably the biggest upset in the history of boxing. Probably top 10 in sports history. So 99/100 it does work like that, but as always, anyone in the heavyweight division has a chance. Anyone 200+ can KO another man. I just find it extremely unlikely. I agree. I just think that Povetkin will get smashed. After that, the hype is gone, he hasn't got the 0 anymore. His fanbase is limited, will it fall or grow after that? Will his managers still back him to the same extent? Let's see, but he could definitely make some good fights with the likes of Haye, Pulev, Fury etc. I just think he would come up short in those as well.

I agree with most of this, apart from the part in bold. Sure, if Povetkin wants to win in the ring, he needs to come at Wladimir; but i fancy him to fight in survival mode, knowing full well 'they' plan to rob the champ. A roberry would be a huge scandal that would create huge conflicts I think. Russia wants to become a boxing nation just as Germany did several years ago. Where did you hear/read that they are trying to buy the fight?

I don't agree Povetkin is hyped fighter. If anything he is one of those guys who are underrated on this forum. Haye-Povetkin would be a very competitive fight IMO. No way Haye would be able to get him out quickly - Povetkin is way too smart to allow that. And he can take a punch too. Although I don't particularity respect dwyer's opinion, he made some good points regarding Povetkin. Guy is very underrated fighter. Even if he loses to Wlad (and I believe he will) he'll be back. Many in here are underrating Povetkin way too much. I suggest you look some of his fights apart from Huck fight. Everybody has a bad moment or fight, but even at his worst he won the fight. He is very a good fighter, extremely talented. It's not walk into part for Wlad especially the fight is in Moscow. I not saying this to hype up the fight, but people who are saying Povetkin is a bum know nothing about boxing or they never watched Povetkin. Yep. Exactly. Povetkin isn't hyped so much as most of the heavies now with any talent get the same treatment. People look at their chances with Wlad and then say they're garbage because they can't picture them becoming champion. Boom. Written off. And all that focus on the Huck fight? You might as well just watch Buster Douglas against Oliver McCall and say "If that's all he's got for McCall the odds against Tyson should be about 45-1. He's a bum. Meaningless fight." It doesn't work like that, people! I'll predict right now, that this will be Povetkin's last fight. :lol1: I hope not because he could make exciting fights with a lot of other guys after this. But I can definitely see that happening.

The keys for Wladimir will be the jab and... the uppercut! I sense that Povetkin hass difficulties dealing with uppercuts especially with half hooks half uppercuts. That's why Povetkin is the perfect victim for Vitali Klitschko. Wladimir will have to be more flexbile and fight a little bit more like his brother (eventhough both are vers different fighters). Povetkin has to be mad if does not put the pressure from the beginning. Trying to play chess with Wladimir is like playing the russian roulette with 5 bullets. Vitali Klitschko loves pressure fighters because he manages very well the space and finds the right angles despite his relatively slow footwork. By having a very low guard and ggod reflexes he dodges his opponents' shots and counters them with a BEAUTIFUL right cross. That being said, Wladimir can't counter as well as Vitali. He will have to step back during Povetkin's assaults and use his reach to defend himself with his arms. Wladimir is more the type of fighter that counters instantly without dodging. That is why I think that Wladimir has mainly two choices : 1- play chess if Povetkin doesn't put pressure (suicidal for him) ; 2- fight very agressive without letting any chance to Povetkin coming close. We have either Wladimir exposing a brutal and methodical demolition of Povetkin or both fighters going into a dog fight. Povetkin needs to put W.K away from his comfort zone. I think that Pianeta had a very good gameplan against Klitschko buthe wasn't moving his head too much and was quite slow. Povetkin will have to ask himself two questions : 1- Can I manage to go under his jab and land hooks? 2- Can I take his shots. Povetkin will have to fight risky if he wants to win. Wladimir will have to dominate the ring. I see a potentially very big fight. To me, one-sided fights can also be "exciting". I agree with most of this, apart from the part in bold. Sure, if Povetkin wants to win in the ring, he needs to come at Wladimir; but i fancy him to fight in survival mode, knowing full well 'they' plan to rob the champ.

The keys for Wladimir will be the jab and... the uppercut! I sense that Povetkin hass difficulties dealing with uppercuts especially with half hooks half uppercuts. That's why Povetkin is the perfect victim for Vitali Klitschko. Wladimir will have to be more flexbile and fight a little bit more like his brother (eventhough both are vers different fighters). Povetkin has to be mad if does not put the pressure from the beginning. Trying to play chess with Wladimir is like playing the russian roulette with 5 bullets. Vitali Klitschko loves pressure fighters because he manages very well the space and finds the right angles despite his relatively slow footwork. By having a very low guard and ggod reflexes he dodges his opponents' shots and counters them with a BEAUTIFUL right cross. That being said, Wladimir can't counter as well as Vitali. He will have to step back during Povetkin's assaults and use his reach to defend himself with his arms. Wladimir is more the type of fighter that counters instantly without dodging. That is why I think that Wladimir has mainly two choices : 1- play chess if Povetkin doesn't put pressure (suicidal for him) ; 2- fight very agressive without letting any chance to Povetkin coming close. We have either Wladimir exposing a brutal and methodical demolition of Povetkin or both fighters going into a dog fight. Povetkin needs to put W.K away from his comfort zone. I think that Pianeta had a very good gameplan against Klitschko buthe wasn't moving his head too much and was quite slow. Povetkin will have to ask himself two questions : 1- Can I manage to go under his jab and land hooks? 2- Can I take his shots. Povetkin will have to fight risky if he wants to win. Wladimir will have to dominate the ring. I see a potentially very big fight. To me, one-sided fights can also be "exciting". Some very good points made. :fing02:

Wladimir will pepper him with the jab all night. I don't fancy Povetkin to have much success if he, somehow, gets inside. Povetkin will fight one of two ways: he'll either come at Wladimir from the first, and try and work the body; or he'll try and hang in the fight for 12 rounds, with a view to an almost certain robbery. Wladimir needs a KO, IMO. The keys for Wladimir will be the jab and... the uppercut! I sense that Povetkin hass difficulties dealing with uppercuts especially with half hooks half uppercuts. That's why Povetkin is the perfect victim for Vitali Klitschko. Wladimir will have to be more flexbile and fight a little bit more like his brother (eventhough both are vers different fighters). Povetkin has to be mad if does not put the pressure from the beginning. Trying to play chess with Wladimir is like playing the russian roulette with 5 bullets. Vitali Klitschko loves pressure fighters because he manages very well the space and finds the right angles despite his relatively slow footwork. By having a very low guard and ggod reflexes he dodges his opponents' shots and counters them with a BEAUTIFUL right cross. That being said, Wladimir can't counter as well as Vitali. He will have to step back during Povetkin's assaults and use his reach to defend himself with his arms. Wladimir is more the type of fighter that counters instantly without dodging. That is why I think that Wladimir has mainly two choices : 1- play chess if Povetkin doesn't put pressure (suicidal for him) ; 2- fight very agressive without letting any chance to Povetkin coming close. We have either Wladimir exposing a brutal and methodical demolition of Povetkin or both fighters going into a dog fight. Povetkin needs to put W.K away from his comfort zone. I think that Pianeta had a very good gameplan against Klitschko buthe wasn't moving his head too much and was quite slow. Povetkin will have to ask himself two questions : 1- Can I manage to go under his jab and land hooks? 2- Can I take his shots. Povetkin will have to fight risky if he wants to win. Wladimir will have to dominate the ring. I see a potentially very big fight. To me, one-sided fights can also be "exciting".

I'll predict right now, that this will be Povetkin's last fight. and I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong and you were right if that happens, but I don't think it will ;) I actually give Povetkin more chance to beat Wlad then to retire after the fight.

I don't agree Povetkin is hyped fighter. If anything he is one of those guys who are underrated on this forum. Haye-Povetkin would be a very competitive fight IMO. No way Haye would be able to get him out quickly - Povetkin is way too smart to allow that. And he can take a punch too. Although I don't particularity respect dwyer's opinion, he made some good points regarding Povetkin. Guy is very underrated fighter. Even if he loses to Wlad (and I believe he will) he'll be back. I'll predict right now, that this will be Povetkin's last fight.

I don't agree Povetkin is hyped fighter. If anything he is one of those guys who are underrated on this forum. Haye-Povetkin would be a very competitive fight IMO. No way Haye would be able to get him out quickly - Povetkin is way too smart to allow that. And he can take a punch too. Although I don't particularity respect dwyer's opinion, he made some good points regarding Povetkin. Guy is very underrated fighter. Even if he loses to Wlad (and I believe he will) he'll be back.

Saying that Povetkin doesn't stand a chance because of his fight against Huck is irrelevant. Styles make fights, fighters change their game and mindset. I believe Klitschko-Povetkin will be more competitive thant Klitschko-Haye. Klitschko will have to slap with fast hooks, move, throw straight right hands and find the right angles to attack Povetkin. Povetkin can go very well under his opponent's jab so I guess Klitschko will prepare a special jab for the fight. I would also guess that Klitschko will have to weigh 110-111 kg. Wladimir will pepper him with the jab all night. I don't fancy Povetkin to have much success if he, somehow, gets inside. Povetkin will fight one of two ways: he'll either come at Wladimir from the first, and try and work the body; or he'll try and hang in the fight for 12 rounds, with a view to an almost certain robbery. Wladimir needs a KO, IMO.

Saying that Povetkin doesn't stand a chance because of his fight against Huck is irrelevant. Styles make fights, fighters change their game and mindset. I believe Klitschko-Povetkin will be more competitive thant Klitschko-Haye. Klitschko will have to slap with fast hooks, move, throw straight right hands and find the right angles to attack Povetkin. Povetkin can go very well under his opponent's jab so I guess Klitschko will prepare a special jab for the fight. I would also guess that Klitschko will have to weigh 110-111 kg.

The only way Povetkin wins is by decision. They're going to try and rob Wladimir.

Povetkin is 2nd tier, he won't be competitive with Wlad. It won't be competitive, you're right. I'm not sure if he's considered 2nd tier however. With the relatively weak heavyweight division, Povetkin is atleast top 10, if not top 5. The klits are just too good for now. Someone will dethrone them eventually, but its not going to be povetkin.

Neither did Haye, but it didn't stop people hyping him to the moon Yes. But he came as an undisputed champion with a 90% ko record. Whilst he has things he doesn't do that good, he also has things he does great. like speed of hand, headmovement and punching power. These are things that has troubled Wlad in the past, and he has been knocked out. He also proved he could beat people similar size or bigger than Wlad. Povetkin doesn't do anything great, he just does most things well. And i'm sorry, but that's not enough to beat someone like Wlad. And of course, Haye had a big mouth and a lot of confidence, who got a lot of people to believe in him.

Completely agree with you here. Povetkin hasn't shown in any of his fights, the levels to compete with Wladimir. He hasn't fought the proper opposition, and mainly has been hyped due to 1) his gold medal and 2) because he's being bigged up as the best of the rest. Everybody wants to find a credible opponent for Wlad and when Haye flunked it became Povetkin. After Povetkin it will be Pulev. I don't believe in either. Povetkin is a good fighter, and would probably be competitive with most others. But the fight with Huck still rings alarm bells as far as I'm concerned. I think he'll go out on his shield but ultimately be stopped in six. Neither did Haye, but it didn't stop people hyping him to the moon

He is certainly talented but completely out of his depth. His main problem is really lack of any kind of world class opposition. If you take away the Huck fight which was arguably a loss his last 3 fights were against guys who had absolutely zero business fighting for a world title. It's going to take him 3-4 rounds to react to being in the ring with such a talented fighter and by then the punishment and points will be adding up on him. The last two Russian HW champs - Ibragimov and Valuev both let go of their titles without showing much desire to keep them. Povetkin has always seemed lazy and content in the way he has managed his career. I hardly expect him to put out more than the minimum effort here as he will likely try to save himself from Lebedev-esque punishment knowing the Dr. won't stop it. He will cash his Klitschko check and promptly retire just like Sultan did. Completely agree with you here. Povetkin hasn't shown in any of his fights, the levels to compete with Wladimir. He hasn't fought the proper opposition, and mainly has been hyped due to 1) his gold medal and 2) because he's being bigged up as the best of the rest. Everybody wants to find a credible opponent for Wlad and when Haye flunked it became Povetkin. After Povetkin it will be Pulev. I don't believe in either. Povetkin is a good fighter, and would probably be competitive with most others. But the fight with Huck still rings alarm bells as far as I'm concerned. I think he'll go out on his shield but ultimately be stopped in six.