Canelo is the 2nd most skilled fighter in the sport of boxing - Skilled...

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Bollocks. .....utter.

Again, how do we know Peterson wasn't juiced for the Matthysse fight? Just cause Matthysse treated him like a rag doll? Remember there was no testing in that fight. I never called Peterson a great win, you're putting words in my mouth. I said a "good win". Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android you're saying that it's a better win than khan based on peterson's win over khan, which is tainted with PED use. here's peterson weighing in for matthysse: http://beatsboxingmayhem.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/screenshot_2013-05-18-14-40-48.jpg and here he is next to his brother, after weighing in for the khan fight: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/10/article-0-1305D9B3000005DC-961_306x423.jpg http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anthony+Peterson+Amir+Khan+v+Lamont+Peterson+W8kw3EeYhgcl.jpg and one last one from the khan weigh in. this is a picture next to matthyse, but this is from teh khan weigh in. notice the blue shorts.http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DYcSGwg6lHk/UXaL5K-PgWI/AAAAAAAAAaY/wGvchUSBV2Q/s200/Peterson+vs+Matthysse.jpg he looks much more muscular in the pics for the khan fight. i don't even need to post the fight, where he looked herculean strong for the first time. i had never seen his body look like that, even if it was always ripped. he had huge, vascular muscles that were not there in the bradley fight, for example. can i say for sure that he wasn't geared up for lucas? no. but he'd be much more reluctant to cheat after being caught. he also looked like a completely different person against khan, both physically i his appearance and in terms of the punishment he's been able to take before or after. again, peterson was caught juicing before the khan rematch. why on earth would you do that if you were clean for the first fight?

Pacquiao is still faster, stronger, more powerful and will still beat Floyd. Floyd is overrated and has looked less than impressive lately. What does this have to do with anything? I'm not a fanatic of neither fighter, but Floyd definitely is the best fighter in boxing right now until someone beats him, and is fighting the best 154 pounder in his next fight. I thought Pacquaio would pose some issues to Floyd before he was knocked out, but he definitely won't be the same after such a dramatic loss. I think the interest of the fight and Pac's chance of actually winning, ended after Marquez's right hand.

Quote: Originally Posted by New England i find it funny that you're jumping all over peterson's drug use until it stops fitting your agenda, . answer this honestly: if peterson were a danny knockout victim would you be talking him up, or putting him down? This clown is getting bemused by the facts about his boyfriend reading his posts just makes him seem a little...''less ****y'' about his hero. I presume come the week before the fight he'll tone it down a little when reality sets in. It's always easier to be a cheerleader on the sideline such as yourself. Notice the ones doing the "bemusing" is two people who had to come to your aid? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Quote: Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. I've never stopped bashing Peterson for his PED use so Idk what you're talking about. Had Garcia beaten Peterson instead I'd be saying the same thing, its a good win. Idk why you people think I'm down playing Garcia's win over Khan. My whole point is that a Peterson win is better than a Khan win. In the end it all comes down to a poster's opinion. Lets say the Khan and Peterson wins are equal in terms. Which win makes Garcia's resume better than Matthysse's? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android peterson was caught doping before the khan rematch... he was on drugs when he fought khan, and the win should be completely discounted. you'd discount that same win because of the drugs if it were against matthysse, and please don't act like you would not. the answer to teh question i asked: i would hype based on the agenda, NE. peterson's drug use would be THE reason why i would give garcia no credit for the win. peterson was very clearly enhanced in the khan fight. you're one of the guys who calls him PEDerson ceaselessly. he deserves it. the guy had slow release test in his butt. now that he loses to matthysse he's some great win? that makes no sense. it's a double standard. discount lamont peterson. the best win for matthysse is judah, and the best win for garcia is khan. judah could do absoutely nothing with khan. khan also beat kotelnik (who should have a W over alexander and was a good fighter,) malingaggi, maidana.\ matthysse has a deeper resume than garcia, but his second best win is alexander. garcia's second best win is judah, matthysse's best win. some people try and say that matthysse beat judah by a huge margin, which isn't true. both guys beat judah in similar fashion, hurting and beating him, but losing some rounds in the process. the resume are comparable, but the fact that you discount peterson's drug use to fit an agenda remains. peterson is not a better win than amir khan, as his khan win is tainted with a failed drug test for the rematch. and you would be saying the exact opposite if the shoe were on the other foot. Again, how do we know Peterson wasn't juiced for the Matthysse fight? Just cause Matthysse treated him like a rag doll? Remember there was no testing in that fight. I never called Peterson a great win, you're putting words in my mouth. I said a "good win". Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

No empty words just video as usual You beat Mayweather as Duran stated forget the head and hit him everywhere. Everytime someone fights him they head hunt which plays into Mayweather hand of making you miss to tire you for the later rounds when he steps it up

I've never stopped bashing Peterson for his PED use so Idk what you're talking about. Had Garcia beaten Peterson instead I'd be saying the same thing, its a good win. Idk why you people think I'm down playing Garcia's win over Khan. My whole point is that a Peterson win is better than a Khan win. In the end it all comes down to a poster's opinion. Lets say the Khan and Peterson wins are equal in terms. Which win makes Garcia's resume better than Matthysse's? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android peterson was caught doping before the khan rematch... he was on drugs when he fought khan, and the win should be completely discounted. you'd discount that same win because of the drugs if it were against matthysse, and please don't act like you would not. the answer to teh question i asked: i would hype based on the agenda, NE. peterson's drug use would be THE reason why i would give garcia no credit for the win. peterson was very clearly enhanced in the khan fight. you're one of the guys who calls him PEDerson ceaselessly. he deserves it. the guy had slow release test in his butt. now that he loses to matthysse he's some great win? that makes no sense. it's a double standard. discount lamont peterson. the best win for matthysse is judah, and the best win for garcia is khan. judah could do absoutely nothing with khan. khan also beat kotelnik (who should have a W over alexander and was a good fighter,) malingaggi, maidana.\ matthysse has a deeper resume than garcia, but his second best win is alexander. garcia's second best win is judah, matthysse's best win. some people try and say that matthysse beat judah by a huge margin, which isn't true. both guys beat judah in similar fashion, hurting and beating him, but losing some rounds in the process. the resume are comparable, but the fact that you discount peterson's drug use to fit an agenda remains. peterson is not a better win than amir khan, as his khan win is tainted with a failed drug test for the rematch. and you would be saying the exact opposite if the shoe were on the other foot.

:lol1: Take away Mayweather's speed and he'd just be another good fighter, people wouldn't say he's p4p #1 And Mayweather is no where near as fast as he use to be, and he's still the best fighter out there right now so that point is moot. He wins on skill more than anything else. He just has a brain for boxing..

:lol1: Take away Mayweather's speed and he'd just be another good fighter, people wouldn't say he's p4p #1 He said "skill". Skill doesn't have anything to do with power, it's more of an asset that compliments skill if you have it. He doesn't have that pure skill of a Mayweather.

I did pick Khan to win but I'm not talking the win down either. I'm simply saying that a win over Peterson is a better win than Khan for the simple fact that Peterson holds the W over Khan. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Peterson holds a win over khan in a fight a tough close fight in which he was accused of using PEDs. Seriously what's your argument?

This thread is 10 pages long and I'm sure at least half of you watched the video. I think TS goal was accomplished. Obviously Canelo isn't the 2nd most skilled fighter in boxing but I think the main focus is the skill set. The kid is young and constantly improving. He's a good counter puncher, has fast hands and throws solid combinations. Canelo has also shown improved defense. I thought the Trout fight was close but Canelo was always in control and never in any trouble. He cruised through a fight with one of the best fighters in the division. I would've liked for him to close the show but that comes with experience and wisdom. At the end of the day, talent shines bright and Canelo has it.

Quote: Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. I never said he wasnt. I just get lazy typing PEDerson on my phone. Who's to say he wasnt juiced vs Matthysse? How am I being biased here when you're saying a Khan KO trumps a Peterson KO? Peterson beats Khan but somehow a KO over Khan (who had been KOed before) and was almost KOed vs Diaz is better than a Peterson KO who Ortiz couldn't KO either? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android i find it funny that you're jumping all over peterson's drug use until it stops fitting your agenda, . answer this honestly: if peterson were a danny knockout victim would you be talking him up, or putting him down? I've never stopped bashing Peterson for his PED use so Idk what you're talking about. Had Garcia beaten Peterson instead I'd be saying the same thing, its a good win. Idk why you people think I'm down playing Garcia's win over Khan. My whole point is that a Peterson win is better than a Khan win. In the end it all comes down to a poster's opinion. Lets say the Khan and Peterson wins are equal in terms. Which win makes Garcia's resume better than Matthysse's? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Take away his power and he wouldn't have beaten Trout or made him respect him. The scores would have been lopsided in favor of Trout.

Quote: Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. I never said he wasnt. I just get lazy typing PEDerson on my phone. Who's to say he wasnt juiced vs Matthysse? How am I being biased here when you're saying a Khan KO trumps a Peterson KO? Peterson beats Khan but somehow a KO over Khan (who had been KOed before) and was almost KOed vs Diaz is better than a Peterson KO who Ortiz couldn't KO either? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Stop acting dumb. When Garcia beat khan, he was widely expected to lose. Even u picked him to lose. I was in fact one of the few who thought he had a solid chance. Mathhyse was exeoect to beat Peterson. It was a 50/50 fight to me, but everyone here thought that fight was an even win including u. Don't go revising history. Ppl will call u out on your bull****. Garcia beat the #1 jww in a fight he wasn't supposed to win. Mathysse beat a jww titilist in a fight many pegged him to win. See the difference? I did pick Khan to win but I'm not talking the win down either. I'm simply saying that a win over Peterson is a better win than Khan for the simple fact that Peterson holds the W over Khan. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

nutjob is what people label people that say anything half intelligent today. im fine with that, im a successful nutjob..what are you in life? That's the truth if I've ever heard it

I never said he wasnt. I just get lazy typing PEDerson on my phone. Who's to say he wasnt juiced vs Matthysse? How am I being biased here when you're saying a Khan KO trumps a Peterson KO? Peterson beats Khan but somehow a KO over Khan (who had been KOed before) and was almost KOed vs Diaz is better than a Peterson KO who Ortiz couldn't KO either? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android i find it funny that you're jumping all over peterson's drug use until it stops fitting your agenda, :lol1:. answer this honestly: if peterson were a danny knockout victim would you be talking him up, or putting him down?

I never said he wasnt. I just get lazy typing PEDerson on my phone. Who's to say he wasnt juiced vs Matthysse? How am I being biased here when you're saying a Khan KO trumps a Peterson KO? Peterson beats Khan but somehow a KO over Khan (who had been KOed before) and was almost KOed vs Diaz is better than a Peterson KO who Ortiz couldn't KO either? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Stop acting dumb. When Garcia beat khan, he was widely expected to lose. Even u picked him to lose. I was in fact one of the few who thought he had a solid chance. Mathhyse was exeoect to beat Peterson. It was a 50/50 fight to me, but everyone here thought that fight was an even win including u. Don't go revising history. Ppl will call u out on your bull****. Garcia beat the #1 jww in a fight he wasn't supposed to win. Mathysse beat a jww titilist in a fight many pegged him to win. See the difference?

Lucas is more skilled/better than Nelo?!?...imo Nelo has the bigger toolbox...pause!! I see we're still buthurt over the Peterson prediciton and the upcoming Garcia as$kicking, are we? :)

Quote: Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. What or who makes Garcia's resume? Peterson alone sh1ts on Garcia's resume. Peterson was the guy who beat Khan. So Garcia was fighting leftovers. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android lol, all of a sudden hes not PEDerson. stop being biased. i thoguht peterson won that fight but all of that goes out of the window once it was discovered he used peds. garcia has the best definitive win against the best 140 lb fighter at the time. the khan knockout trumps the peterson knockout. and garcia also beat judah more than clearly, something matthyse couldnt do. I never said he wasnt. I just get lazy typing PEDerson on my phone. Who's to say he wasnt juiced vs Matthysse? How am I being biased here when you're saying a Khan KO trumps a Peterson KO? Peterson beats Khan but somehow a KO over Khan (who had been KOed before) and was almost KOed vs Diaz is better than a Peterson KO who Ortiz couldn't KO either? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android