The first thing that comes to mind is how slick and durable Zab remains even past his prime. He boxes nicely, has lots of heart and exploits his south paw well.
The second one is how easy it was for Zab to land on Garcia, and how close he came to KO Garcia in round 10.
Comparing this fight to the Matthysse-Judah I think both Garcia and Matthysse won by points (even if Lucas lost to the judges) , but a less experienced Matthysse still managed to dominate more and get hurt less by a younger, closer to his prime Judah.
Given that this was Garcia's last fight and just a few weeks away from the big fight with Matthysse, Garcia looks easy to hit, with heart, but not particualrly skilled or crafty. Its more about him taking punches and landing his own, and bascially relying on his power. On the other hand Matthysse's power is on another level, so is his chin and andurance and stamina for all 12 rounds.
I guess I'm stating the obvious here and these are the reasons why Matthysse is favorite. It should be a good fight though. I think Peterson was a better fighter, but it should still be a competitive and fun fight to watch.
Thoughts? (other than retarded trolling please)
when you see a thread that start with :
Just rewatched
or
Just watched again
Actually you know that the TS just watched it for the first f**ing time
Lmao, right.
LOL
You're giving yourself way too much credit. You're trying to balance the love/hate for matthysse/garcia. I get it, you don't like fair-weather fans or hype-trains. I respect that.I like hype trains because it gives us something to talk about and hate Homers. They are so fake to me. They don't give the other guy credit at all, and hope that they get injured or hurt bad.
They go overboard for the guy that they like, and it's usually the power that these Homers fall in love with when it comes to these fighters. A lot of times, not all of the times, they are of the same ethnicity too. That doesn't bother me, just the penis riding. That ish irks me terribly.
They say that I do the same with Floyd. You won't ever see me bragging about Floyd is this or that. I usually argue with posters who bring up Floyd's ish outside the ring.
The thing about this fight is that Judah is significantly faster and more sneaky with his shots than Matthysse, so lets not get too conclusive with that evidence
But its not like Matthysse is gonna have trouble landing either though, so there's that
I agree, its just a couple clowns that have some homo crush on him and cant see clearly.
I agree, his power .Exactly. I've been trying to tell people that Matthysse is overrated. Who has he really beat? Can he punch? He didn't ko Judah so not really. Garcia has to go to the body. Do you agree? How many damn alts do you have?
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Ill take this as a joke
3. Lucas has an ATG defense, he never gets hit!
ATG defense?? Thats a lot to say for someone who has fought a less than handful known fighters!
I agree, its just a couple clowns that have some homo crush on him and cant see clearly.
I agree, his power is overrated. You see that well when you look at his KO ratio of justa bit over 50%.
The reason whyhe has just 3 fans here is probably because a)Hes not that good a boxer, doesnt show much talent or improvement.b)As a person he's even worse. Silly a$$ hip hop bum.
I'm surprised he has ANY fans at all. To make matters worse, his old man is a racist scumbag.
A. Look at his punching technique - it's clearly improved since the first Morales fight. And now he can use the right cross effectively, not just the left hook like everybody thought.
B. So your saying Danny Garcia is a bad person who doesn't give a fúck about sick children and doesn't spend his time raising money for charity because he makes rap videos??...
C. Angel Garcia doesn't hate pakastanis, he was just pointing out the facts.
no alt, just max k.
Fair enough, but you're bashing riders by being an anti-rider. That's the message I was trying to convey.
It also makes your objective threads on DG/Matthysse seem kinda bogus. I like some of the analysis you set forth, however.
Think real hard about what I do, and you'll understand.
There are probably 3 Garcia fans here and Garcia's power is overrated.
I agree, its just a couple clowns that have some homo crush on him and cant see clearly.
I agree, his power is overrated. You see that well when you look at his KO ratio of justa bit over 50%.
The reason whyhe has just 3 fans here is probably because a)Hes not that good a boxer, doesnt show much talent or improvement.b)As a person he's even worse. Silly a$$ hip hop bum.
I'm surprised he has ANY fans at all. To make matters worse, his old man is a racist scumbag.
Phony and bandwagon?
Lets start with the phony comment. Weren't you the same clown who said Peterson would KO Matthysse? I mean, really? Peterson out of all the people Lucas had fought? But what's phony is how you proceeded to deleting your thread. Not only phony but that showed your so called knowledge in boxing.
Now on to bandwagon. Aren't you the same guy who just jumps on whoever's dick that's going against Matthysse? Yea I thought so... Carry on LOSER.
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I'm reading this at 3.28AM from half way around the world and that STILL hurt! :biggthump
1. Danny was no more hurt in round 10 of the Judah fight than Matthysse was vs Soto and in the first 3 rounds of the Alexander fight.
Ill take this as a joke
2. Lucas's chin is nowhere near as certified as Danny's or Erik Morales's. He has never been tested apart from taking 2 decent uppercuts from Judah (who isn't even a puncher). Danny's chin has been tested by Khan's combo's (harder ones he dropped Maidana and KO'd Judah with) and a roided up Morales. I know he took a lot of unnecessary punishment and lost his balance a few times, but you could see in his eyes he was still "with it" after every hard shot. You can't claim Lucas has a better chin when he's never taken big shots and glass is in his genetics.
1. Khan is an average puncher, just look at the Peterson fight, or molina or just about any fight. Morales was not a hard puncher at all at 140.
2. Garcia was very hurt, it was obvious and he even confirmed it, im not sure what there is to argue.
3. Lucas has an ATG defense, he never gets hit!
The first thing that comes to mind is how slick and durable Zab remains even past his prime. He boxes nicely, has lots of heart and exploits his south paw well.
The second one is how easy it was for Zab to land on Garcia, and how close he came to KO Garcia in round 10.
Comparing this fight to the Matthysse-Judah I think both Garcia and Matthysse won by points (even if Lucas lost to the judges) , but a less experienced Matthysse still managed to dominate more and get hurt less by a younger, closer to his prime Judah.
Given that this was Garcia's last fight and just a few weeks away from the big fight with Matthysse, Garcia looks easy to hit, with heart, but not particualrly skilled or crafty. Its more about him taking punches and landing his own, and bascially relying on his power. On the other hand Matthysse's power is on another level, so is his chin and andurance and stamina for all 12 rounds.
I guess I'm stating the obvious here and these are the reasons why Matthysse is favorite. It should be a good fight though. I think Peterson was a better fighter, but it should still be a competitive and fun fight to watch.
Thoughts? (other than retarded trolling please)
1. Danny was no more hurt in round 10 of the Judah fight than Matthysse was vs Soto and in the first 3 rounds of the Alexander fight.
2. Lucas's chin is nowhere near as certified as Danny's or Erik Morales's. He has never been tested apart from taking 2 decent uppercuts from Judah (who isn't even a puncher). Danny's chin has been tested by Khan's combo's (harder than the ones he dropped Maidana and KO'd Judah with) and a roided up Morales. I know he took a lot of unnecessary punishment and lost his balance a few times, but you could see in his eyes he was still "with it" after every hard shot. You can't claim Lucas has a better chin when he's never taken big shots and glass is in his genetics.
According to Compubox, Zab is right behind Paulie in the amount of jabs they throw. A guy with Zab's speed/agility/power shouldn't depend so much on it, especially when he's not even using it as a set-up punch. He tried to lull Garcia asleep with it, but he wasn't falling for it so Zab should've switched it up. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been worried of Garcia's counter-punching ability, but Zab did himself a disservice by not throwing the right hook and straight left more often. Zab put himself in the position where he needed a KO to win.
How else is judah gonna pretend to win fights while running away?!
What people need to get out of the two fights is how different Zab Judah's endurance was over the twelve rounds. He was much better prepared to go the distance in the Garcia fight.
What a lot of Matthyse fans do fail to realize is that even when Garcia was at a disadvantage in the 10th he was still finding his shots in the subsequent rounds. Judah was also in a prove everyone wrong state of mind so he was invigorated to fight even when he got stunned and countered through out the fight.
He looked better against Danny because Danny was worst.
What people need to get out of the two fights is how different Zab Judah's endurance was over the twelve rounds. He was much better prepared to go the distance in the Garcia fight.
What a lot of Matthyse fans do fail to realize is that even when Garcia was at a disadvantage in the 10th he was still finding his shots in the subsequent rounds. Judah was also in a prove everyone wrong state of mind so he was invigorated to fight even when he got stunned and countered through out the fight.
I gave Garcia no chance against Khan going into their fight.But as the fight progressed I could see that Garcia was working Khan out and adapting. His biggest strength is adapting to his opponent so it is not so much improving but doing something he does already adapting. A lot will depend on how they can take and cope with eachother's heavy shots. If Garcia can stand up to Mattysse's heavy blows I can see him winning. That is the big ?????
I agree with you completely..
Zab wasn't worried about Matthysse's nasty ass offense and power. He was way more concerned about Garcia's offense.
According to Compubox, Zab is right behind Paulie in the amount of jabs they throw. A guy with Zab's speed/agility/power shouldn't depend so much on it, especially when he's not even using it as a set-up punch. He tried to lull Garcia asleep with it, but he wasn't falling for it so Zab should've switched it up. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been worried of Garcia's counter-punching ability, but Zab did himself a disservice by not throwing the right hook and straight left more often. Zab put himself in the position where he needed a KO to win.
Phony and bandwagon?
Lets start with the phony comment. Weren't you the same clown who said Peterson would KO Matthysse? I mean, really? Peterson out of all the people Lucas had fought? But what's phony is how you proceeded to deleting your thread. Not only phony but that showed your so called knowledge in boxing.
Now on to bandwagon. Aren't you the same guy who just jumps on whoever's dick that's going against Matthysse? Yea I thought so... Carry on LOSER.
Posted from Boxingscene.com App for AndroidFirst off the mods either deleted the thread or lumped it in to another thread like they always do before the fight even started. Second, I detailed why I thought Peterson could win, and hoped Peterson won to shut you clowns up. I was never a Peterson fan. And third, nobody here respects you as a poster. Not one poster.
Your penis riding of Matthysse has gone overboard to the point that you could care less how you respond to real boxing fans who trash you every chance that they get. You're a mentally weak poster, and I'm going to kill you every chance that I get. You better hope and pray that Matthysse wins. Harris should've been given the chance to knock his ass out, but that cheating ass ref saved his rotten mouthed ass.