So, he appears to have burned bridges with Lennox Lewis after a three week training camp.
He has a questionable chin/heart.
He's either poorly trained or incapable of following instructions - Lennox told him to set EVERYTHING up with his jab; he didn't follow through with that.
He's been poorly matched.
He's already 30 years-old.
His promoter and trainer are clearly to blame; but what next for David Price?
Should he sever ties with Frank Maloney and his trainer and join up with Lennox on a permanent basis? The problem, of course, is that he's already 30 - is it too late? Would another promoter take him?
Fight at domestic level again. There is some OK fights for him there. Then move up to European level and see what he can do there.
Price is not young for a boxer, and has to many flaws in his game. He's stiff, and agile. His defense can be improved though.
Price probably will not ever compete at the world level. Anyone with a bit of pop, and a decent chin are going to trouble him.
Feel bad for Price. He is a nice guy and I was expecting more from him, but he's been exposed by Thompson, which is not embarrassing, just that maybe world level is to much.
What an absolute load of tosh.
So, you're writing off Lewis before he's started? He, and Wladimir, would have had set training schedules, devised by Manny. To suggest they wouldn't have picked anything up from them, which they could transmit to other HWs, is simply retarded.
Banks is too gung-ho. He's pushing Wladimir to be more offensive which, IMO, is dangerous.
Also, aren't you the guy who ranked Bowe ahead of Lennox in your ATG list?:rofl:
I didnt rank him ahead based on achievement but on the best version turning up I do believe bowe had more to offer than Lewis. How many ATG fighters became ATG trainers? I was ringside in the echo arena on the night and I do believe price defeated himself, gassing with nervous energy and having no plan B once Thompson didn't stay down. I'm not blaming Lewis for the loss, I'm just saying because he was a good fighter doesn't mean he will be a good trainer, what about that don't you understand? I'm a good pad man, great at getting people in shape, great at putting plans together for fighters, doesn't mean I'm a great fighter. I'm not. I can hit pads and look great, whenever I'm in the ring my mind goes blank and anyone with a brain walks me onto shots all day.
I can't see him going anywhere, I haven't seen somebody fall apart like that in the ring for a long time. I think more than anything he just has no head for the game. With his natural advantages he should be a beast, and when he's up against old has beens and never were's he looks ok but I think anybody with the wiles to get past the first few rounds with him will stop him.
Being a great fighter doesn't make you a great trainer and judging by some of the sh1t Lennox used to say on HBO, I think he's probably a better student than he is a teacher.
Perhaps; but to write him off before he's started is stupid.
I just don't believe that because you were a good fighter that makes you a good coach. Lewis had his style from both Olympics and up to his first WBC reign and he was a good fighter, it was Manny that changed him into a ATG. I don't believe wlad would be a good coach for the same reason. Lennox would be great to have for first hand experience of the big occasion and dealing with the pressure, but for strategy and tactics, I can't believe in someone who has only followed orders instead of giving them.
What an absolute load of tosh.
So, you're writing off Lewis before he's started? He, and Wladimir, would have had set training schedules, devised by Manny. To suggest they wouldn't have picked anything up from them, which they could transmit to other HWs, is simply retarded.
Banks is too gung-ho. He's pushing Wladimir to be more offensive which, IMO, is dangerous.
Also, aren't you the guy who ranked Bowe ahead of Lennox in your ATG list?:rofl:
Being a great fighter doesn't make you a great trainer and judging by some of the sh1t Lennox used to say on HBO, I think he's probably a better student than he is a teacher.
I just don't believe that because you were a good fighter that makes you a good coach. Lewis had his style from both Olympics and up to his first WBC reign and he was a good fighter, it was Manny that changed him into a ATG. I don't believe wlad would be a good coach for the same reason. Lennox would be great to have for first hand experience of the big occasion and dealing with the pressure, but for strategy and tactics, I can't believe in someone who has only followed orders instead of giving them.
For me the problem with David price is he signed with the wrong promoter. Being maloneys main fighter he was matched to look good (fighters with with no chin) instead of being developed and fighting people who could stretch him. He needs to get himself out of Liverpool where he became our cities first British heavyweight champ (making him a big noise). Training with Lennox Lewis wasnt a good move in my eyes, just because he accomplished a lot as a figher doesn't mean he can pass that knowledge on. It wasn't untill Lewis teamed with manny steward that he became an ATG. That was because manny helped him perfect a style that got the best of his physical attributes, Lewis didn't come up with the gameplans. Training with jonathan banks would have been more beneficial, Lewis was given instructions, banks helped manny give the instructions.
I disagree.
I'd say Lewis is well-placed to train young heavyweights. He received expert tuition from Manny, and can transmit some of that knowledge to any of today's upcoming heavyweights.
Lennox is a smart guy, too; he understands boxing. Add to that his Olympic background and the fact he was lineal champion of the HW division, he's superior in every regard to Jonathan Banks (who, IMO, has a gung-ho mentality).
I've heard rumours Anthony Joshua is looking to join up with Lennox when he turns pro.
For me the problem with David price is he signed with the wrong promoter. Being maloneys main fighter he was matched to look good (fighters with with no chin) instead of being developed and fighting people who could stretch him. He needs to get himself out of Liverpool where he became our cities first British heavyweight champ (making him a big noise). Training with Lennox Lewis wasnt a good move in my eyes, just because he accomplished a lot as a figher doesn't mean he can pass that knowledge on. It wasn't untill Lewis teamed with manny steward that he became an ATG. That was because manny helped him perfect a style that got the best of his physical attributes, Lewis didn't come up with the gameplans. Training with jonathan banks would have been more beneficial, Lewis was given instructions, banks helped manny give the instructions.
Nothing.
He has no heart for the game. Get out now, he must have made a bit of money if he invests it wisely he'll be ok.
Thanks to that big oaf, i have to listen to people saying "Tony Thompson is just below the klitschkos"
FFS
I hate to admit it, but this is correct. Price at this stage anyway, wasn't as good as I thought he was. Thompson is not 'just below' the Klitschko's. He's well below. The Price wins doesn't prove much, and I hate to take his victory away from him, but Price proved that the first fight wasn't a fluke and he generally just isn't at the level of any other top 15 fighter.
Price is lucky that there are some fights on the domestic scene for him which could make him a decent purse - Fury and Chisora will probably still fight him. Haye may or may not take the fight depending on demand/purse. And Anthony Joshua will turn pro - maybe Price will be a stepping stone for him next year or year after. But for Price all those fights at least represent good paydays in his own country.
With regards to Lewis training Price - I think it wouldn't be a bad idea at all if Price moves away from his home and trains with Lewis. He did last 2 and a half times longer in the rematch so technically he did actually improve.
David Price simply didn't get enough fights and rounds during 2011 and 2012 because of having a poor promoter.
Compare the number of rounds he fought those two years to others who turned pro the same time as he did.
He should have AT LEAST 20 fights and TWICE AS MANY rounds after being a pro for 5 years.
Tyson Fury is younger and has less amateur experience, yet has over twice as many pro rounds as Price.
Hughie Fury just turned pro a few months ago yet already has 7 fights.
Mike Tyson fought 17 times in a year and Wladimir Klitschko 14 times in a year early in their careers when they were knocking out journeymen.
Excuses :lol1:
Knocking out Domestic level opponents in a round or 2 and then stepping up ever so slightly and getting Stopped again is what is next for Price has gone down twice.
Hes just too flawed, I don't think even the great late Manny Steward could of helped him.
30 is still young in HW terms buts very flawed and limited. Not sure he'll ever be anything more than Euro level.
I read the other day and have forgotten the exact number but I think he was knocked down 19 times in the amateurs, safe to say he has no chin what so ever.
Pretty sure i've seen that figure somewhere, too.
So despite you mentioning that he has a questionable chin/heart and that he ignored Lewis instructions, his traininer & promoter are clearly to blame?
Makes no sense.
Confidence can be instilled; every consider that? Plenty of fighters with questionable chins/hearts have gone on to become belt holders.
IMO, he's been poorly matched since turning pro.
Hes just too flawed, I don't think even the great late Manny Steward could of helped him.
30 is still young in HW terms buts very flawed and limited. Not sure he'll ever be anything more than Euro level.
I read the other day and have forgotten the exact number but I think he was knocked down 19 times in the amateurs, safe to say he has no chin what so ever.
What's next for Price is an eternity at domestic or at best Euro level.
I can't believe I had high hopes for Price.
When you go 0-2 with a 40 year old out of shape Thompson, getting stopped twice, your career at the top level is over.
I imagine he's in a severe state of depression at the moment
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