When he and Max were talking about P4P fighters he mentioned how Rigondeaux is not exciting and how the crowd was booing him during the Donaire fight.
I think that's bush league. He wasn't boring at all to many of us, me included. Fought a great fight.
As a supposedly knowledgeable commentator it's Lampley's job to educate the ignorant fans who don't know skill when they see it. Instead he is degenerating into just another part of the mindless mob who only wants face first brawlers and who boos in the first round if they don't get immediate gratification.
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Originally Posted by 4Corners
Lampley and his f*ggot ass glasses can go suck a d**k. Seriously, guys been a joke.
I don't remember him being this bad when I was a kid in the 90's. Maybe I was just too young to see it.
real talk!!!...dude is the f*cking KING of hating....nobody hates like his punk ass....he's skilled at hating...real slick!!
Eh? King of hating? I think not. Look again bud.
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Can you get dropped in an A+ performance?
The fact that he took Donaire's hardest punch went down and got right back up and continued to dominate only added to his grade. Had he never gotten hit with that punch the question surrounding Rigo's chin would still remain, now not so much. Him getting dropped made the performance go from A to A + or maybe even A ++
Lampley is a little sore that Donaire got taken to school.
imo it was almost a perfect A+ peformance from Rigondeaux.
Can you get dropped in an A+ performance?
I was surprised that Lampley's reply was "but the crowd booed him". What does that have to do w/ anything?
Exactly.
The crowd can boo all they want but that has no bearing on the fact that Rigo is masterful and a top pound for pound fighter. Lampley should know better than that.
Micky Ward or Brandon Rios may have gotten a lot of cheers but that doesn't make them P4P.
He has 3 Strikes Against Him:
1. He Is Cuban, 2. He Is Too Skilled For Today's Boxing Fans To Understand, and 3. He Can't Speak English
So yes the cards are stacked against him!
By the way Rigondeaux is not a "Defensive Fighter" he is a COUNTER PUNCHER, is it his fault that his opponents are afraid to throw punches after they feel his Power...FUK NO! Even Donaire became hesitant after feeling the little dudes Power.
By talking down about Rigondeaux style at the same time kinda making an excuses for Donaire the guy they was hoping would win anyway! Yes the fight is boring when one guy is making the other guy look like he shouldn't even be in the sport of boxing because he was way more skilled then the guy that was suppose to be the "FAVORED"
Don't Knock Ward, Rigondeaux And Mayweather style because they understand what BOXING is about, tell those other OVERRATED HYPE JOBS to get their fukin SKILLS UP! Or just keep fighting other Overhyped Sluggers and stay away from Real Boxers because we know how that goes 99% of the time with the Boxer just boxing circle round the flat footed stupid brawler
I was surprised that Lampley's reply was "but the crowd booed him". What does that have to do w/ anything? I really enjoy Lampley's commentary though so I was surprised to hear that kind of logic out of him, then again, I've only recently started following boxing more and more. Rigondeaux is definitely #3 P4P, in my opinion.
Can't disagree with him, other than a few spots the fight was boring as hell. You can display a high skill level without having to backpedal the entire 12 rounds. Pathetic is an apt word to sum up the fight. Pathetic that Donaire couldn't do anything and pathetic that Rigondeaux didn't do anything.
I am a defensive fighter also. The thing is though when I watch Rigo I feel he could land a lot more without taking much more if he was just a little more aggressive. Again, Mayweather is a good example of what I mean. He throws a lot more than Rigondeaux but he doesn't get hit more. The problem with Rigondeaux is he's stuck in his amateur ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
I think both hold back at times, but Floyd is more exciting, true. I don't mean to say everyone who calls Rigo boring doesn't know boxing, I just expect people who really know or are into boxing to appreciate his style. I hear you though. I love Rigo and Floyd and fighters like Sweet Pea but I also love action fighters like Margarito, Maidana, Gatti, and Bam Bam Rios.
I've been following the back-and-forth between you two. I agree that Floyd is a more exciting fighter than Rigo. Mayweather is simply more active. As much as I appreciate Guille's skills and talent, he often holds back just a little too much. It can be frustrating at times. Floyd is more willing to initiate; Rigo always seems to need a spark to get him going.
I think Guillermo is one of the most gifted boxers in history, but he probably spent too much time as an amateur. It's tough to break old habits. Rigo will never change enough to satisfy the typical boxing fan. Even having beaten a top-five P4P fighter with ease, we won't know how truly great "El Chacal" could've been. His best years were lost to Castro and communism.
In any event, I think Rigondeaux is a pleasure to watch, if just a tad too inactive. But, hey, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that the man is really just a rookie pro. He's actually still learning. Scary....
Lampley and his f*ggot ass glasses can go suck a d**k. Seriously, guys been a joke.
I don't remember him being this bad when I was a kid in the 90's. Maybe I was just too young to see it.
real talk!!!...dude is the f*cking KING of hating....nobody hates like his punk ass....he's skilled at hating...real slick!!
why do they assume the booing was for rigo and not for donaire? I mean rigo was the one doing his job, donaire wasn't! It was him who was afraid to engage cause he knew he would get popped by rigo if he did!...
I was at the fight. The boos were for Rigo. But you're right, they should've been booing Donaire. Guillermo engaged plenty, and it's not like anyone expected "El Chacal" to be the aggressor.
...I remember Rigo coming forward in the first round being the aggressor and staying in Donaire's punching range. Rigo fought a smart fight had a game plan and stuck to it. Donaire and Robert Garcia didn't have a game plan and it was evident. IMO Garcia and Doanire really thought they were going to go in there and blast Rigo out and that didn't even come close to happening. Rigo didn't take a lot risks, but I don't think anyone can say he didn't any risk.
Correct. Rigondeaux clashed with Nonito several times in the first four or five rounds. After he built up a solid lead, Guillermo started to take less chances. It amazes me how so many people that watched the fight forget the last round, where Donaire was literally running for his life.
From the looks of things, I wouldn't doubt your assessment of Nonito and Robert's "game-plan". Donaire seemed completely at a loss during the fight. (Although that always seems to happen when an inferior fighter meets a superior boxer.) The way I see it, Nonito made the fight less action-packed than it could've been. He pressed versus Mathebula. Why not against Rigo? You and I know why....
I think both hold back at times, but Floyd is more exciting, true. I don't mean to say everyone who calls Rigo boring doesn't know boxing, I just expect people who really know or are into boxing to appreciate his style. I hear you though. I love Rigo and Floyd and fighters like Sweet Pea but I also love action fighters like Margarito, Maidana, Gatti, and Bam Bam Rios.
Yeah. If people aren't bored by Rigo then hats off to them. Different strokes for different folks and all that. I appreciate him but am not excited by him much, that's all. He's legit p4p top 5 tho imo.
Nah not imo. Floyd is more exciting you must admit. You can't really use the fights Rigo had against bums as an example you've got to use credible opposition when looking at this. When Floyd fought bums he always went for the knockout in the past. Rigondeaux's fights against Cordoba and Donaire is what I'm talking about. Don't get me wrong - Floyd could throw more also. However, Mayweather throws enough to not make the fights borderline boring imo. This nonsense about people who don't appreciate Rigo not being boxing purists is nonsense. I've watched boxing since I was about 10 (even though I am only 19) and appreciate all styles to some extent. This does not mean I don't fight some fighters boring.
I think both hold back at times, but Floyd is more exciting, true. I don't mean to say everyone who calls Rigo boring doesn't know boxing, I just expect people who really know or are into boxing to appreciate his style. I hear you though. I love Rigo and Floyd and fighters like Sweet Pea but I also love action fighters like Margarito, Maidana, Gatti, and Bam Bam Rios.
Really? I need to rewatch his first 10 fights, I actually thought it was the other way around, Floyd gets more chances to land shots but doesn't take the risk always.
Nah not imo. Floyd is more exciting you must admit. You can't really use the fights Rigo had against bums as an example you've got to use credible opposition when looking at this. When Floyd fought bums he always went for the knockout in the past. Rigondeaux's fights against Cordoba and Donaire is what I'm talking about. Don't get me wrong - Floyd could throw more also. However, Mayweather throws enough to not make the fights borderline boring imo. This nonsense about people who don't appreciate Rigo not being boxing purists is nonsense. I've watched boxing since I was about 10 (even though I am only 19) and appreciate all styles to some extent. This does not mean I don't fight some fighters boring.
I am a defensive fighter also. The thing is though when I watch Rigo I feel he could land a lot more without taking much more if he was just a little more aggressive. Again, Mayweather is a good example of what I mean. He throws a lot more than Rigondeaux but he doesn't get hit more. The problem with Rigondeaux is he's stuck in his amateur ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Really? I need to rewatch his first 10 fights, I actually thought it was the other way around, Floyd gets more chances to land shots but doesn't take the risk always.
Lampley's opinion on Rigo is valid if you look for resume for P4P which a lot of folks do...but I like Kellerman's rationale for P4P better and with that rationale, Rigo is absolutely top 5 P4P.
The funniest part of that show, was Lampley talking shiet bout Showtime for promoting Broner and Paulie's classless antics around Jessica...as if HBO would have handled it any differently lol.
HBO been looking mad salty as of late.
You would hate me in the ring then. :lol1: I only feel I did my job in round if you don't land anything flush on me. :lol1:
I am a defensive fighter also. The thing is though when I watch Rigo I feel he could land a lot more without taking much more if he was just a little more aggressive. Again, Mayweather is a good example of what I mean. He throws a lot more than Rigondeaux but he doesn't get hit more. The problem with Rigondeaux is he's stuck in his amateur ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
I do appreciate boxing style - in fact I am a pure boxer and have had a good deal of success! I am a huge fan of Mayweather for example. Like Rigo, he boxes and uses the sweet science. However, he actually throws an acceptable amount of punches. I appreciate Rigo's skills but I can't appreciate a fighter who doesn't throw punches when they are dominating so much that they can do so with little or no additional risk.
You would hate me in the ring then. :lol1: I only feel I did my job in round if you don't land anything flush on me. :lol1: