So this guy, a big Tranny Garcia fanboy, got Cuti (Matthysse trainer) on the phone. Starts about 1:35
The guy has the balls to ask why is it that Lucas isn’t training in USA instead so that Danny can get the blood tests he wants.
Cuti says they are Argentines, they train in their country, that they are tested blood and urine before the fight.
Danny fanboy says that living in Argentina they cant do the USADA drug tests DURING training, like Danny wants.
I would have told the guy to go fuk himself but Cuti says they are welcome to go to Argentina and take blood, do their exams, no problem. But since USADA has no jurisdiction in Argentina, then Lucas should train in USA for 8 weeks before the fight to keep Tranny Garcia happy. WTF, I mean what the fking WTF?
So a fighter has to train in someone else’s country, because if not its no good? WTF? Should all non American boxers move to US to keep their American , sorry, Puerto Rican that don’t speak Spanish ***** of an opponent happy?
These Tranny fanboys, their some shameless stupid mfkers.
Conclusions:
Tranny’s ducking has reached new levels.
Tranny’s fanboys are retarded. The ****bag says he’s not “insinuating” anything but that be thinks Matthysse is on drugs. Of course our genius here said Peterson would beat Matthysse too, and says Tranny beats Lucas.
Its a head game to try to get Matthysse to train where hes not comfortable, and a dumb one at that. If he wants drug testing fine but to try to tell the other fighter where to train is ridiculous. His blood is the same whether they take it in Argentina or America.
Couldn't care less about what the outrageous stipulation is, just call the bluff.
pac wanted a $2 million per pound over for Mayweather and Mayweather called his bluff. All of sudden, random drug testing was an issue.
All Matts needs to do is say, "yeah, alright, I'll train in America. No prob, Bob." If Garcia throws out another hurdle that clears speculation.
That's beyond the point. Don't be an idiot. The point is this p*ss* b1tch keeps setting up roadblocks. Now that Lucas KOed Peterson you jumping ship with Garcia?
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Asking for drug testing is a roadblock now??Come on now..I don't know who I'm picking in this fight..I just don't like guy's jumping to the ducking thing,like a guy should not make sure his demands are meet..If Matt's does not have any demands..More power to him,but that does not mean Garcia can't have demands himself..A bit short sided way of thinking imo..
I'll never forget it bro..Not once but twice..
Lucas is not the first boxer to have to do this,why is everyone acting like this is the first time anybody has every heard of this..
its a b*tch move, period. Telling another grown man where he is and isnt allowed to train lol. Team matthysse should tell danny to go f*ck himself
anyone.....??
Yeah. All the countries under WADA testing were posted in this thread, Argentina's one of them. There's nothing done by USADA that can't be done there if Golden Boy's willing to pay.
you still on that bro
Maybe he likes to be close to his family and friends when hes in training? Or maybe he likes the environment in his own country. Lucas should counter danny and say he cant train in philly, sh*t the way things are going danny wont be able to walk in philly anymore.
I'll never forget it bro..Not once but twice..
Lucas is not the first boxer to have to do this,why is everyone acting like this is the first time anybody has every heard of this..
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Yo my man, Garcia is not only asking for testing but for the guy to move to the US. Do you even realize that and how much of a hassle that is? Pull Garcia's Dick out your ear.
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Oh I get it,is he the first fighter to have to do this??Oh no I did not think so..What the fucck is he doing over there that he can't do in the states..Don't give me the he wants to be close to his family crap..This is one fight,to make it happen this is all ya have to do..So many of you are so confident right,why not call Garcia's bluff??
That's beyond the point. Don't be an idiot. The point is this p*ss* b1tch keeps setting up roadblocks. Now that Lucas KOed Peterson you jumping ship with Garcia?
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Yo my man, Garcia is not only asking for testing but for the guy to move to the US. Do you even realize that and how much of a hassle that is? Pull Garcia's Dick out your ear.
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Oh I get it,is he the first fighter to have to do this??Oh no I did not think so..What the fucck is he doing over there that he can't do in the states..Don't give me the he wants to be close to his family crap..This is one fight,to make it happen this is all ya have to do..So many of you are so confident right,why not call Garcia's bluff??
When Froch fought Ward he stay on 14th street at the Gansevoort,dude it's like 400 a night to stay there(I know I was staying there at the same time as he was),mind you he most likely stayed in a suite..Which will make it like 6 or 700 a night..Who cared about how Froch paid for it??Like I said ask for more money and stay where your comfortable in the states if ya have to..
It's not just money, it's the time and effort involved in getting everyone who needs to be at the training camp into the US, finding somewhere to train, and changing the routine Matthysse's used for the majority of his fights. It's not easy, and it's not fair of Danny Garcia to ask that. Floyd Mayweather can ask that of Lucas Matthysse and I'll say, "Do it Lucas, it's Floyd freaking Mayweather."
Danny Garcia is no Floyd Mayweather. He has no right.
Matthysse doesn't live in the US and has nowhere to stay. Garcia knows what he's doing and he's setting up roadblocks. Where the hell is Lucas gonna stay and who's gonna pay for it?
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When Froch fought Ward he stay on 14th street at the Gansevoort,dude it's like 400 a night to stay there(I know I was staying there at the same time as he was),mind you he most likely stayed in a suite..Which will make it like 6 or 700 a night..Who cared about how Froch paid for it??Like I said ask for more money and stay where your comfortable in the states if ya have to..
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No that's how duckers act. Next Garcia will want Lucas to only train in a McDonald's parking lot because he loves Big Macs. This is ridiculous, how do people defend this BS I don't know
See's joke and more stupid kiddie thinking..What Garcia is asking for is not unreasonable..What your suggesting is dumb and Garcia's team would never ask for..So bringing it up or mentioning it was a complete waste of time..
Yo my man, Garcia is not only asking for testing but for the guy to move to the US. Do you even realize that and how much of a hassle that is? Pull Garcia's Dick out your ear.
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This^^^^^ I'm actually giving Garcia the benefit of the doubt here. Matts should just call is bluff. If he doesn't, then it does seem like there's a little smoke.
It's no different than fear of needles, superstitions, or cutoffs.
Its a head game to try to get Matthysse to train where hes not comfortable, and a dumb one at that. If he wants drug testing fine but to try to tell the other fighter where to train is ridiculous. His blood is the same whether they take it in Argentina or America.
There's no testing that can be done in the US that can't be done in Argentina.
It's the logistics behind Matthysse moving his trainer and his sparring partners and his family and all that where a major problem could occur that makes this an unfair demand on Garcia's part. Lucas just dealt with this in his last fight when his passport was destroyed and he had to come in far later than usual. There's no telling the potential problems that could come with Matthysse setting up a training camp in the US. We see them all the time with fighters who come from elsewhere to fight in the US, let alone ones that have to train here. Sh*t happens a lot.
Garcia is not a big enough star to demand such a thing. Mayweather would be, but Danny is not. It's totally unfair.
Like I told you I don't know the in's and out's about testing..So on this I'll take ya word..If the testing that Danny wants can be done in Matt's country,then Danny should have no issues and this fight should be a go(if not I would agree Danny ducked)..
If the testing that Danny wants can't happen in Matt's country(the testing that Danny wants being the keyword bro)then I don't think it's a duck..It might be a mind game tactic(this could be the case)but I would not call it a duck..Matt's should ask for more money,that should be his counter..He should say I need to bring these people in and I need more dough..Garcia is letting it be known what he wants..What the fucck does Matt's want in return..This is how nego works..
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In a way I'm not mad at Danny for this..If he feels more comfortable getting these test done for his fight,but the testers have no jurisdiction over in Matt's country..I don't see the issue with Matt's coming over seas to make the fight happen..
This^^^^^ I'm actually giving Garcia the benefit of the doubt here. Matts should just call is bluff. If he doesn't, then it does seem like there's a little smoke.
It's no different than fear of needles, superstitions, or cutoffs.
Matthysse doesn't live in the US and has nowhere to stay. Garcia knows what he's doing and he's setting up roadblocks. Where the hell is Lucas gonna stay and who's gonna pay for it?
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you still on that bro
I can't agree with that..This is why I said,we have different views..I'm not the best at knowing the in's and out's of this whole testing business..I just feel if Garcia wants extra testing,it's his right..If the testing he wants only does their testing in the US,well those are his terms..Make a counter offer..Saying oh we can't train in the US is a bit suspect imo..What the fucck are they doing over there that they can't do here??
Maybe he likes to be close to his family and friends when hes in training? Or maybe he likes the environment in his own country. Lucas should counter danny and say he cant train in philly, sh*t the way things are going danny wont be able to walk in philly anymore.
Matthysse probably will agree to this, or at least have some compromise where he spends part of training camp in the United States. That won't make it fair, though.
I can't agree with that..This is why I said,we have different views..I'm not the best at knowing the in's and out's of this whole testing business..I just feel if Garcia wants extra testing,it's his right..If the testing he wants only does their testing in the US,well those are his terms..Make a counter offer..Saying oh we can't train in the US is a bit suspect imo..What the fucck are they doing over there that they can't do here??
There's no testing that can be done in the US that can't be done in Argentina.
It's the logistics behind Matthysse moving his trainer and his sparring partners and his family and all that where a major problem could occur that makes this an unfair demand on Garcia's part. Lucas just dealt with this in his last fight when his passport was destroyed and he had to come in far later than usual. There's no telling the potential problems that could come with Matthysse setting up a training camp in the US. We see them all the time with fighters who come from elsewhere to fight in the US, let alone ones that have to train here. Sh*t happens a lot.
Garcia is not a big enough star to demand such a thing. Mayweather would be, but Danny is not. It's totally unfair.
bottom line is, if Lucas actually wanted to fight Garcia, he wouldn't give a damn about where he trained for the fight. He has no wife and doesn't live with his daughter in Argintenia, plus he's a loner, so what is keeping him there? There is no legit reason for him ducking USADA. Period.
Matthysse isn't saying no to testing, and that's not the issue at all.
The issue is forcing Matthysse to have training camp in the United States to comply with the testing, when it isn't at all necessary. He can have all the testing the Garcias want in Argentina. If Garcia insists on testing that can only take place in the United States, and the fight doesn't happen because of it, that's a duck.
I can't agree with that..This is why I said,we have different views..I'm not the best at knowing the in's and out's of this whole testing business..I just feel if Garcia wants extra testing,it's his right..If the testing he wants only does their testing in the US,well those are his terms..Make a counter offer..Saying oh we can't train in the US is a bit suspect imo..What the fucck are they doing over there that they can't do here??
You my boy BO,but we have a different view of these kinda things..Everything does not have to be a duck..If Garcia wants extra testing(for what ever reason)it's his right..Now Matt's should counter,I want more money for these extra test you wanna put in..This is how adults act,not say,oh he's ducking..It's Matt's team's job now to counter..They know what Danny wants,and tbh it's not unreasonable..Let's hear a counter..
Matthysse isn't saying no to testing, and that's not the issue at all.
The issue is forcing Matthysse to have training camp in the United States to comply with the testing, when it isn't at all necessary. He can have all the testing the Garcias want in Argentina. If Garcia insists on testing that can only take place in the United States, and the fight doesn't happen because of it, that's a duck.