Who is worse Al Haymon or Bob Arum?

Both bad for boxing, I voted for Al cause well Bod did give us Hagler vs Leonard, Chavez vs De La Hoya, Holyfield vs Foreman, Foreman vs Moorer, Leonard vs Hearns, Hagler vs Hearns, Ali vs Frazier II and both Ali vs Spinks fight

When bad meets evil....

Arum, you have to sign with him to get a shot at one of his stars.

if haymon is the reason pauli lost who's the reason cano lost against pauli?

To me Arum is worst the guy wouldn't even make Lopez vs Gamboa when everybody was asking for that fight or make fights with GBP.

Haymon uses influence to get his guys paid high when they might not deserve it. That said Haymon fighters get decisions and sometimes they lose them. The ones that get close decisions are the only ones people recall. I mean if Berto got a gift against Ortiz or the Ghost or if Arreola got a decision against Adamek then maybe I could understand. Guys like Broner and Alexander getting the nods in close fights to me may be a result of the bigger name getting the benefit of the doubt. It been happening for ever and that doesn't make it right. I don't see any huge new issue. Bob just lies a lot and does what best for him as opposed to whats best for his fighters or the sport. Neither does the sport a lot of favors but if i was a pro fighter I would want to be a Haymon fighter cause he seems to at least always take care of their interest. That's the bad part. He gives his fighters tomato cans to maintain their zeros. Arum don't give a crap who wins since they're usually in-house fights. Which is actually good for the fans. It's only recently that Haymon is pitting his guys against each other, probably the result of the HBO fallout. That leaves him very little choice.

Haymon uses influence to get his guys paid high when they might not deserve it. That said Haymon fighters get decisions and sometimes they lose them. The ones that get close decisions are the only ones people recall. I mean if Berto got a gift against Ortiz or the Ghost or if Arreola got a decision against Adamek then maybe I could understand. Guys like Broner and Alexander getting the nods in close fights to me may be a result of the bigger name getting the benefit of the doubt. It been happening for ever and that doesn't make it right. I don't see any huge new issue. Bob just lies a lot and does what best for him as opposed to whats best for his fighters or the sport. Neither does the sport a lot of favors but if i was a pro fighter I would want to be a Haymon fighter cause he seems to at least always take care of their interest. Great Post

Both are bad for the sport of boxing, but Al Haymon seems to be the sneakier and more shady of the two. Real shady never shows up at pressers and hides from doing interviews.

Haymon uses influence to get his guys paid high when they might not deserve it. That said Haymon fighters get decisions and sometimes they lose them. The ones that get close decisions are the only ones people recall. I mean if Berto got a gift against Ortiz or the Ghost or if Arreola got a decision against Adamek then maybe I could understand. Guys like Broner and Alexander getting the nods in close fights to me may be a result of the bigger name getting the benefit of the doubt. It been happening for ever and that doesn't make it right. I don't see any huge new issue. Bob just lies a lot and does what best for him as opposed to whats best for his fighters or the sport. Neither does the sport a lot of favors but if i was a pro fighter I would want to be a Haymon fighter cause he seems to at least always take care of their interest.

I guess i know why haymon is being picked

Haymon is bad for boxing. He runs the sport like he runs the concerts he promotes. Its all about getting people in the door. If they are dissapointed with the end product who cares, they already paid their money at that point. He's all about the pre fight hype, the promotion. At least with that 117-111 card last night we know which judge was in his pocket. Broner won that fight but that was no shut out or even close to it...

Haymon has been monopolizing fighters behind the scenes only for the advantage of his wealth and not the legacy of the fighter itself. Unfortunately, too many fighters followed suit with this same mentality and put business before legacy. Hence, why we have Floyd and a new generation of fighters coming up with the mindset that only being undefeated defines greatness and that the path to greatness is only through the means of least resistance. Now Bob, being no saint either for the most part has given boxing legendary fights promoting legendary fighters only to set the stage for legends to fight each other. The list legends/legendary fights he promoted would be countless but we still owe him a great deal of respect for giving fans what they wanted...

Haymon and it's not even close... Everybody knows both are dirty yet Arum is the only hated one... Pauli has been the only person I heard call Haynon out... Arum is the scape goat, its easy to point fingers at him cause he is out in the open and doesn't hide his dirt, but guys who hide are always suspect, its the ones you don't see and pull strings that you have to consider. Plus the flowmos take anything Floyd says and runs with it, Floyd hates Arum, they hate arum, Floyd likes 50 cent they like 50 cent, 50 cent exposed Floyd and Haymon and 50 cent becomes the enemy.

Max Kellerman also called out Al Haymon, not like Pauli but said that Haymon hand picks his fighters careers. I can't criticize Haymon for doing so, because almost every champion or contender in a way or another has been protected to a certain point. The problem starts when a fighter becomes a champion and keeps fighting bogus contenders without facing a top contender or unifying. The other problem is when a boxer is hyped as a superstar without facing tough opposition, due to the fact that the fighter has either unified or jump weight classes winning multiple titles against paper champions. Now, Haymon will start to become a problem to the sport, when lets say a fighter like Broner, who is destined to become the "new face of boxing" according to the hype surrounding him, won't be put to a real threat in a couple of years. So lets sit back and see how Haymon will manage the 140-147 situation he now has. couldnt agreed more

Haymon and it's not even close... Everybody knows both are dirty yet Arum is the only hated one... Pauli has been the only person I heard call Haynon out... Max Kellerman also called out Al Haymon, not like Pauli but said that Haymon hand picks his fighters careers. I can't criticize Haymon for doing so, because almost every champion or contender in a way or another has been protected to a certain point. The problem starts when a fighter becomes a champion and keeps fighting bogus contenders without facing a top contender or unifying. The other problem is when a boxer is hyped as a superstar without facing tough opposition, due to the fact that the fighter has either unified or jump weight classes winning multiple titles against paper champions. Now, Haymon will start to become a problem to the sport, when lets say a fighter like Broner, who is destined to become the "new face of boxing" according to the hype surrounding him, won't be put to a real threat in a couple of years. So lets sit back and see how Haymon will manage the 140-147 situation he now has.

Lol @ retards asking what Al Haymon has ever done. Log off, the guy is the devil of boxing. Yep Haymons a bit&&

Arum is a straight g and he operates like one. Gotta give him his due

Lol @ retards asking what Al Haymon has ever done. Log off, the guy is the devil of boxing.

Coke or Pepsi

Make this a poll lol