If those 3 were fighting today and in their primes who would be able to beat them at any of those 3 weight classes? My first 2 opinions are Andre Ward and maybe B=Hop. butt I honestly don't see too many people that would touch them. Actually maybe Manny and PBF at 147 also
Don't forget... Duran is much faster than Castillo in all aspects.
Let's just say....
Castillo = Bootleg Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
JCC Sr. = Bootleg Duran
Duran = Go figure.
DURAN TKO12 OR 117-112 UD, Floyd hitting the canvas once.
Yeah I couldn't have honestly said this any better myself! If only we had another duran coming up.....
haha I would pay so much money to see Khan get hit with Tommy Hearns right hand hahahaha
He wouldn't get ko'd he Prbly hit him so hard he'd keeping waking back up but after the fight was over he'd be the most famous dancer in the world.
Leonard was bigger, stronger, and faster than Floyd. His speed would have had Floyd on the defensive and taking punishment and not being able to hurt Leonard at all. Hearns would have stopped Floyd Cold. Floyd would never get past the non-stop lightning rod jab of Hearns and if you think Floyd was rocked by Mosley and Corley, that right hand of Hearns with the cat like speed would have dropped Floyd for the full count. Hearns would never have allowed Floyd past his jab and Floyd could not have fought Hearns on the inside...end of story. Duran of 1980 Montreal would have backed Floyd to the ropes and slowly broken him down for a late stoppage. Think of Castillo. Now add more crushing power, more defence, more physicality, more RAGE and you have Duran. End of story.
Don't forget... Duran is much faster than Castillo in all aspects.
Let's just say....
Castillo = Bootleg Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
JCC Sr. = Bootleg Duran
Duran = Go figure.
DURAN TKO12 OR 117-112 UD, Floyd hitting the canvas once.
Get theeeeeee fuccccccck outta here!
No I'd rather stay :).
I just implied that Floyd has a CHANCE to win against them. In reality, ANYONE has a "CHANCE" to do anything.
Floyd, being as accomplished as he is, and given his defensive talents; is it really that hard to believe that he (along with the greatest welters of all time) wouldn't be able to score a win against anyone (even each other).
You really can't rule out any ATG not having a .000001% chance of a win against other ATGs.
Trust me, I'm a much bigger fan of Leonard and Duran, over any fighter in the last 3 decades.
However, I won't let that blind me into thinking only the 70's welters can beat each other.
"tarver, pavlik, pascal, cloud"
Tarver had just made the Rocky movie and gained a lot of weight and had to lose it. He was drained. Kelly Pavlik was too little for the weight and Cloud is a power dummy. Neither of those opponents belonged in the ring with him at that period in time. Like I said before, Hopkins has fought better competition since getting older but no excuses for how selective he is about who he fights. These are facts.
I dont think hopkins is very selective... I think he got dodged in the late 90's but did stop a prime glen johnson,
He has fought prime jermain taylor twice, winky, calzaghe, pavlik who was a huge favorite in that fight, Tarver, Cloud, Pascal, Dawson twice, and that is since he was 40's old.....
He def would fight stevenson if given the opportunity...... Yes some have been cherrypicked like cloud, but for the most part, when given the chance he has fought the best guy available... I really cant think of a guy he has dodged, except for ward but who wants to see that anyway
Legit. I agree.
"tarver, pavlik, pascal, cloud"
Tarver had just made the Rocky movie and gained a lot of weight and had to lose it. He was drained. Kelly Pavlik was too little for the weight and Cloud is a power dummy. Neither of those opponents belonged in the ring with him at that period in time. Like I said before, Hopkins has fought better competition since getting older but no excuses for how selective he is about who he fights. These are facts.
Nobody. The answer is simple really. The jury is still out on the so called best in the world. Ward, GGG, Floyd, Hopkins too. Manny is tougher than any of these fighters I just mentioned in my back and is the REAL throwback, not Hopkins. I respect Hopkins but he like Floyd, was always smart about who he fought. His claim to fame was against an under-sized Tito and then he went on to fight smaller champions and had the 20 something defenses at middleweight BUT who did those defenses come against. SRL, Hitman Hearns, and Duran fought THE VERY BEST. PERIOD! There were no questions at the end of their careers. I have the same respect for Oscar and TiTo for always fighting the best of their eras. Floyd cannot say this but Manny can.
You could say that about hopkins in 2004 but he did then move up and beat down tarver, pavlik, pascal, cloud
Hopkins is legit..... Nobody would fight him in his prime
Nobody.
Nobody. The answer is simple really. The jury is still out on the so called best in the world. Ward, GGG, Floyd, Hopkins too. Manny is tougher than any of these fighters I just mentioned in my back and is the REAL throwback, not Hopkins. I respect Hopkins but he like Floyd, was always smart about who he fought. His claim to fame was against an under-sized Tito and then he went on to fight smaller champions and had the 20 something defenses at middleweight BUT who did those defenses come against. SRL, Hitman Hearns, and Duran fought THE VERY BEST. PERIOD! There were no questions at the end of their careers. I have the same respect for Oscar and TiTo for always fighting the best of their eras. Floyd cannot say this but Manny can.
Hagler would beat down serg,
Hearns and SRL would both be undefeated unless they fought each other,
Duran would be 135 king and probably beating the hell out of the guys at 140...
Floyd might be able to use movement to decision duran much like SRL did to duran in the 2, 3rd fights between them,,,
Hearns literally would destroy everyone at 147,154, 160,, and its not even close.....
They would be the biggest stars in the world....
Ortiz, cotto, broner, ghost, maidana, bradley, jmm, pac, khan, garcia, lucas, alexander would all be destroyed...
TRUTH
Leonard was bigger, stronger, and faster than Floyd. His speed would have had Floyd on the defensive and taking punishment and not being able to hurt Leonard at all. Hearns would have stopped Floyd Cold. Floyd would never get past the non-stop lightning rod jab of Hearns and if you think Floyd was rocked by Mosley and Corley, that right hand of Hearns with the cat like speed would have dropped Floyd for the full count. Hearns would never have allowed Floyd past his jab and Floyd could not have fought Hearns on the inside...end of story. Duran of 1980 Montreal would have backed Floyd to the ropes and slowly broken him down for a late stoppage. Think of Castillo. Now add more crushing power, more defence, more physicality, more RAGE and you have Duran. End of story.
i just Can't see Floyd beating SRL. For once he would be up against a guy who is bigger, stronger, faster and has a reach advantage. Mayweather has better timing, but SRL can put together much better combinations. May has the superior defence, Leanord on attack.
I agree with you but out of duran, hearns, and srl I feel stylistically mayweather would have the best chance with srl. But I don't believe he could beat any of them...
i just Can't see Floyd beating SRL. For once he would be up against a guy who is bigger, stronger, faster and has a reach advantage. Mayweather has better timing, but SRL can put together much better combinations. May has the superior defence, Leanord on attack.
Literally only the TOP guy at 147, 160, and 168 (Floyd, Sergio and Ward) dont make complete fools out of themselves...
Ward at least probably survives in ugly fashion til a decision and martinez would put up a valiant struggle and probably get KOd and Floyd would probably not put up much resistance for Hearns, but SRL is feasibly possible for a win
If they were fighting in todays world there would be another outcry for the abolition of the sport. Alot of todays guys would be getting seriously injured if those three were fighting today. Floyd vs Tommy at 147, it would be a nightmare for Floyd until he regained cociousness. Serious mismatch........... Rockin':boxing:
I agree!
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I'm in the same boat. Imagine if Duran was naturally bigger?
As for the OP, I think only Floyd has a chance at scoring a W on them.
Yeah its crazy to think duran could have stayed at lightweight and prolly been 100-1. However, I don't think floyd would have had a chance against hearns (not enough power), srl (maybe), but duran no way mayweather has trouble with suffocating fighters, and duran might have been the best.
I'm in the same boat. Imagine if Duran was naturally bigger?
As for the OP, I think only Floyd has a chance at scoring a W on them.
Get theeeeeee fuccccccck outta here!
It's weird how people always forget about duran, and IMO he was the best out of all those guys. I have duran in my top ten all time, maybe it's just me tho. Nobody right now could have beat those fighters today....
I'm in the same boat. Imagine if Duran was naturally bigger?
As for the OP, I think only Floyd has a chance at scoring a W on them.
It's weird how people always forget about duran, and IMO he was the best out of all those guys. I have duran in my top ten all time, maybe it's just me tho. Nobody right now could have beat those fighters today....