Don't get me wrong hes good but hes a straight brawler nothing else.Don't give me that bull crap he has technique.NO he doesn't.Thats why danny is gonna expose this hype job and gonna make him look silly.I mean come on lucas lost to zab,Now all the lucas nuthuggers are gonna say he got robbed bullshi* he lost :bottle:. All i got to say is danny is coming and poor little lucas better not sign that contract or hes going night night.
I also agree that lucas hasnt got the best technique but some fighters are like that (nigel benn and george foreman come to mind) doesn't mean they're garbage, yes theres a chance you can outbox these guys but they will always have a massive punchers chance
he's not a brawler..he's more of a boxer-puncher with HUGE punching power..and i thought he won against judah and alexander..
so he stops humberto soto, stops lamont peterson, and should have wins against judah and alexander....
Man, you know there's more to technique than being a slick fighter. Lucas is a puncher, and has very good technique for a puncher! He's not just a slugger like a Mayorga. Technically he throws his punches extremely well, cuts off the ring, has good inside game and and a good body attack.
I like Danny, he has good power and he has a great left hook when he doesn't start throwing looping punches (But Zab took that away, something he couldn't do against Matthysse). But other than that what does he have? Poor footwork, slow hands, poor defense, not consistent with the jab. I just don't see anything that is A+ with him...
Now I know your a PR fan boy, but Matthysse DID handle Zab better than Danny, and he also whooped Devon but your right he didn't get the win. Just like Ashley Theophane made Danny look amateurish and didn't get the W
I'll always have love for Swift for KO'ing Khan, but make no mistake, Matthysse is coming for him... Care to make a bet on the outcome??
Just askin how did matthysse handle zab better when he lost ?????? Makes no sense
There’s a huge difference between KO someone in round 7 after a “tough fight” (Josesito’s own words) and what Matthysse did to Dallas Jr.
In Round 1, just 2 minutes and 20 seconds, Matthysse dropped Dallas unconscious on the canvas, walking away thinking “b;tch please..”
Here, in case you didn’t see it:
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Son of a *****! Watch the video at 1:43, Lucas looks at Oscar De la Hoya and asks "Danny Garcia?".
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Yes he is over-rated. J Lopez knocked out Mike Dallas so thats not that big of an accomplishment. Alexander is complete horse ****, a terrible,terrible fighter.
Peterson and Ajose are Good wins and the Zab fight WAS close.
Garcia is also over-rated, but he has a higher ceiling than Lucas, he's 5 years younger, and IS improving.
Right now this is a 50/50 fight plain and simple, who ever lands the first Bomb will most likely win.
I agree the Dallas win wasn't great but it was impressive the way he dispatched of him and Alexander is boring as hell but far from a terrible fighter.
I don't think Garcia is improving particularly, looks the same fighter who fought Holt, Theophane etc to me and I think Lucas will wipe him out very quickly, he'll still get haters saying hes just a puncher with no skill etc
Lucas is deceptively good and a lot more skilled than a lot are willing to admit.
Yes he is over-rated. J Lopez knocked out Mike Dallas so thats not that big of an accomplishment.
There’s a huge difference between KO someone in round 7 after a “tough fight” (Josesito’s own words) and what Matthysse did to Dallas Jr.
In Round 1, just 2 minutes and 20 seconds, Matthysse dropped Dallas unconscious on the canvas, walking away thinking “b;tch please..”
Here, in case you didn’t see it:
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Matthysse has earned his hype.
As has Garcia right now, with the Khan win. However Garcia has had a lot more underhwhelming perofmances than Lucas. Theophane, Holt, Morales, Campbell etc. All very poor showings IMO.
But Matthysse has beaten better fighters, he was robbed against Alexander and most feel should have got the nod against Judah, albeit close IMO.
The only reason I think Lucas get's a little bit of hype is his inability to stop Judah. But I think he'd stop him if they fought again, he's learned from that fight.
Let's face it, after what he did to Peterson, he deserves the hype.
The winner of Garica-Matthysse will be the next big hype :lol1: Desevedly.
Knocked out undefeated top 10 ranked Soto who hadn't lost for years and had never been down.
Outboxed, floored and whooped 33yr old Judah.
Destroyed #1 ranked Peterson in brutal fashion inside of 3 rounds.
Battered #1 ranked Alexander, still the only guy to floor him.
Beat top 10 ranked undefeated Ajose who Garcia ran from from pillar to post.
Knocked Mike Dallas spark out in 1 round with a pull counter
This guy is overrated? In the last few years hes up there with a select few in terms of competition and handled them equally as impressively as anybody.
Lucas is not over-rated. His performances are the ones that are giving him attention and indeed he has power. He does have some boxing skills and a great chin with good conditioning.
Garcia is under-rated, in the Judah fight he couldn't use his jab but that jab will trouble Lucas more than most ppl think here and he is also a very good body puncher.
The problem is the Lucas does punch as he is getting hit so he will always have the chance to get a knockdown or a KO.
This is a 45%/55% fight in favor of Lucas right now
You right that was a little over board! Hes the 2nd best 140 fighter but danny is just to good for him.danny is gonna box circles around him. danny is the best in the division by far
lol based on what? he has got a good left hook and thats about it. he isnt very fast, he doesnt have very good footspeed, he isnt technically that good. everything about garcia screams average to me.
he's seen as an "underdog"
most boxing fanboys see themselves as underdogs.
answer : because a fanboy is really cheering for himself.
he's a very good, relatively young fighter. he's worth of some "hype." the excessive hype, or what i call "Fanboyism" extends beyond the ring. it always has.
This fight its going to come down to who can take more punishment! Danny is proven on that aspect and although he as been in trouble a few times, he has shown he can recover and win fights after being hurt! Will Lucas be able do accomplish this once he gets tagged by one of those "Lucky punches" Garcia continues to land fight after fight? (that guy should play the lottery).
How are people really talking about him, though? 90% of what Matthysse fans say is that he is going to beat the crap out of Danny Garcia. What exactly is wrong with that?
It's not like most of us say he's going to beat Mayweather or that he's the greatest ever or something. Just that he's the best at 140 and will beat the crap out of Garcia.
Absolutely nothing you have no right to call Matthysse over hyped while implying Danny Frikking Garcia who is a B fighter if i ever seen one is all that.
I think people are going to get turn off him a bit with the way some posters are talking about him now. At the moment I don't mind because he actually did something to bring that hype.
How are people really talking about him, though? 90% of what Matthysse fans say is that he is going to beat the crap out of Danny Garcia. What exactly is wrong with that?
It's not like most of us say he's going to beat Mayweather or that he's the greatest ever or something. Just that he's the best at 140 and will beat the crap out of Garcia.