Roy Jones Jr is probably not the G.O.A.T but he is definitely the B.O.A.T.

Roy went up and DOMINATED a heavy weight champion who out weighed him by 40lbs. Roy in his prime was the most unbeatable fighter in history. 160-168 for sure no one in history stands a chance. I would expect him to dominate everyone at 175 as well. Like I said this guy DOMINATED not beat but DOMINATED a heavy weight. Just as Roy DOMINATED every boxer he fought. His toughest fight was a 28 year old Bernard Hopkins. Castill, Chop Chop Corley and Oscar De La Hoya gave Floyd 3x as tough a fight. Then Roy's second toughest fight was Montell Griffith, who he KO'd but got DQ. (nobody counts that as a loss) Then we all know he KO'd Griffith in a 1min 30 sec next fight. Roy Beat Bernard handedly, yes it was his toughest fight, but every fighter in history has had tougher fights in there prime, and most of those guys never fought a guy on Bernards level. Bernard could of and would of beaten any 160lb fighter in history. And Roy handled him. Charley Burley would have beaten Bernard 10 times out of 10 at 160. Roy Jones as well, they both have a style that Bernard simply cannot beat.

The best measure of ability is winning

So he's a good investment then?

Whaaaaat. Roy would Smash Floyd, If Roy got Floyd cornered like Ortiz and Cotto got him He wouldn't get out. I really don't see how Floyd could beat him if they were the same size and both in prime Floyd was not even prime in those fights and that was also a Floyd who had changed his mindset to fight that way. U think they trap him with Sr around? Also its not like Roy was some bully fighter who would push Floyd to the ropes all night. Floyd went to the ropes against Ortiz and early against Cotto on his own

Roy went up and DOMINATED a heavy weight champion who out weighed him by 40lbs. Roy in his prime was the most unbeatable fighter in history. 160-168 for sure no one in history stands a chance. I would expect him to dominate everyone at 175 as well. Like I said this guy DOMINATED not beat but DOMINATED a heavy weight. Just as Roy DOMINATED every boxer he fought. His toughest fight was a 28 year old Bernard Hopkins. Castill, Chop Chop Corley and Oscar De La Hoya gave Floyd 3x as tough a fight. Then Roy's second toughest fight was Montell Griffith, who he KO'd but got DQ. (nobody counts that as a loss) Then we all know he KO'd Griffith in a 1min 30 sec next fight. Roy Beat Bernard handedly, yes it was his toughest fight, but every fighter in history has had tougher fights in there prime, and most of those guys never fought a guy on Bernards level. Bernard could of and would of beaten any 160lb fighter in history. And Roy handled him.

Ezzard Charles would have ended his career. Charley Burley would have won on points.

I would take Floyd head to head P4P over him but again, I wont argue with those who pick Roy. The problem with Roy is that it was a ton of raw atheticism but he wasnt fundementally the best fighter and thats why I rank a guy like Floyd over him. I think both are super smart, along with Hopkins but Floyd & Hopkins are more fundementally sound which is why I think that even when there athelticism is gone, they would still be hell to deal with. Not as much with Royd Whaaaaat. Roy would Smash Floyd, If Roy got Floyd cornered like Ortiz and Cotto got him He wouldn't get out. I really don't see how Floyd could beat him if they were the same size and both in prime

So why didn't Hopkins move up until Roy Jones got KO'd? It was clear he didn't want any of Roy at 175 until he was shot. 1st off the fight wouldnt have been at 175. It wouldve been at 168. 2nd, I never said Roy ducked him. Hopkins wasnt scared either. His ego was out of this world at the time and he truly felt that since Tito was the 2nd biggest star in boxing next to Oscar and he just beat him, that he deserved atleast 50/50 with Roy. Roy wanted 60/40 which was clearly fair

Greatest of all-time has as much to do with the career achievements, as it has to do with ability, where as the best of all time is strictly a measure of ability. No doubt is my mind, the best boxer to ever lace them up was Roy Jones Jr. Mayweather is better. I value intelligence over physical attributes, even though Mayweather possesses both and isn't far behind prime Roy in the latter department.

Fastest fighter of all time, most athletic, most naturally gifted. The only thing keeping him back is skill set and resume.

I might say he's the most gifted or most athletic ever maybe, but I can't say the best to lace em up... Too many hypothetical questions...how would he look against Tarver years earlier, what about awkward Michael Spinks...and I've seen very little of Archie Moore and Bob Foster... And those PEDs questions cloud his legacy a bit...casual fans may not know or care much but boxingheads know about it...

stong case can be made for the c.o.a.t chinniest of all time as far as high level dudes.

Definitely one of the best head to head fighters ever. The list of fighters that beat Roy Jones at his best is not very long.

He really was the best though. Name a fighter that looks as good on film P4P? He was as fast as the fastest lightweights. I would take Floyd head to head P4P over him but again, I wont argue with those who pick Roy. The problem with Roy is that it was a ton of raw atheticism but he wasnt fundementally the best fighter and thats why I rank a guy like Floyd over him. I think both are super smart, along with Hopkins but Floyd & Hopkins are more fundementally sound which is why I think that even when there athelticism is gone, they would still be hell to deal with. Not as much with Royd

I dont agree but I wont argue with anyone who believes that. Still though, everyone talks about Floyd-Pac not happening but the Hopkins rematch was just as big to me. Hopkins gave Roy by far the toughest fight of his career besides Griffin until the Tarver fight so I know a prime Hopkins wouldve given him hell. Then if you look into the future and saw how well Hopkins moved up to 175 to beat Tarver. He looked physically great at 175. Much better than he did at 160 at the end so that tells me that he wouldve had no problems looking good at 168 where the match was scheduled to be at. No one talks about that anymore but that wouldve been one of the best matchups in history, easildy

We don't know how good he would have been without the drugs though.

RJJ was so freaking fast as to be like a wonder of nature. Check my thread in the history section on RJJ @ MW. # genius.

There are plenty of fighters who fought at 160 and 175 that would give him major problems and some I would favor to beat him. But at 168 nobody touches him.

Certainly up there. At least top 5. Wouldn't pick anybody over him around that weight class, at any time in history.

Greatest of all-time has as much to do with the career achievements, as it has to do with ability, where as the best of all time is strictly a measure of ability. No doubt is my mind, the best boxer to ever lace them up was Roy Jones Jr. No. You can probably make a better case for him being the GOAT than being the BOAT as well, and even then, no to that as well.