There can be no arguing the facat that PBF has always picked (or at least since 2007) fighters who are naturally smaller than he is with big names like: JMM, Ricky Hatton, Robert Guerrero. Or great fighters who were clearly passed their prime. Like : Cotto ( they fought in 2012, shouldve fought in 2007 or 2008 when both were undefeated instead he fought him after the plaster fiasco, the pac man whooping and when he was a shell of his old self. Then Mosley who challenged Floyd over 5 years ago when his only losses were to Winky, and Vernon Forrest. Other than that he decides to fight Vicotr Ortiz which was a joke and theres def more but i dont wanna be negative this whole time. The point im trying to make is that as much as i disagree with who or more so when he fights these big names he is without a doubt the most skilled fighter of our generation so people who keep hating on him, plz do it for the right reasons. i hate when i read people ripping on his fight game. Rip on him ducking people in their prime bc thats just a fact theres no disputing it but he is one hell of a gifted fighter.
Who on earth in and around his division would avoid a defensive fighter? (Fighters would rather avoid aggressive fighters.) Just curious, who refused Mayweather when he was calling them out?
So now ur implying Floyd had/Has no offense? Thats strange since he seems to make mfers stop throwing meaningful punches because they get peppered with straight rights and lead right hooks.
This site before he fought Mosley.....Mosley going to knock him out...he's to strong for Floyd...blah blah...after fight Mosley is old and washed up...Mosley was a shell of himself. Pac fights Mosley. Pac beats a true warrior and a hof fighter...lmao
Guerrero is going to come at him and beat him up. This won't be easy for Floyd. After fight who the hell is Guerrero....some cherry picked bum. Pacfans....oh pac's fighting Rios...Pac taking on a young hungry stud.....lol
I hate Floyds antics but if ur going to keep moving the goalposts everytime ur wrong, then there is no sense in talking about him. No matter who he fights u will find some way to diminesh it. He has beat world champs which according to people on here are washed up scrubs just carrying belts.
Who on earth in and around his division would avoid a defensive fighter? (Fighters would rather avoid aggressive fighters.) Just curious, who refused Mayweather when he was calling them out?
Obviously u never saw Floyd fight at lower weight classes. Because there is no truth to that statement
U probably think the first time he was rocked was against Mosley....go watch his fight against Chop Chop
I'm curious. Who did Floyd call out?
I don't know if ur being serious or just a hater. There is a video on you tube of him calling out fighters proving it....once u realize he was too dangerous of a fight for many big names...because the money wasn't there, because he was talented as **** but was not a ppv attraction. He called out Mosley way back in 98.....did Mosley duck him? No Mosley went to go fight DLH for 5x the money and if he lost it wouldn't hurt his stock due to jumping up two weight classes. He fights Floyd back then probably makes a million and if he loses there is no DLH fight and he ****s away millions
Guerrero weighed more than Mayweather so whatever you saying do not matter, actually it shows that Guerrero was a fraud at those lower weights. Wether you slice or dice it, Guerrero is a good fighter fighting the best fighter in the world. Honestly Guerrero have enough boxing skills to beat Pacquiao easily, unlike Pacquiao as well he faced more southpaws.
I guess you misunderstood my point since you brought up that Guerrero's weight but the point was that 1 year ago he hadn't fought at 140 nor 147 yet and was now expected to beat Floyd who has been there since 2005. Almost everyone picked Floyd.
How can a guy be a fraud then you say he is a good fighter? Which one is it?
Guerrero had just moved up to WW. He didn't look too good in his first fight and in his second fight, he was getting hit by Berto with big shots often. The only reason he beat Berto is because Berto had no defense and no PEDs and thought he was Floyd in the first few rounds.
Those 2 guys at WW that Guerrero fought have a recent losing record at WW. The last guy he fought at the lower weights had a losing record of 4 of 5 last fights. Still, he knocked Guerrero down and was able to hit Guerrero often.
"Who is Guerrero? Who has he fought? I'm no Berto! - Floyd Mayweather
Floyd said the above. So is Floyd a liar?
Guerrero beats Manny you say? .... same people were saying that Floyd beat Hatton/Mosley/Oscar but they would kill Manny. Then Manny beats them soon after.
Styles make fights. Guerrero was too slow and flat-footed. Floyd and his team knew that Floyd can take advantage of that ...... you didn't?
....funny how when he was calling out guys he couldn't get fights...
Who on earth in and around his division would avoid a defensive fighter? (Fighters would rather avoid aggressive fighters.) Just curious, who refused Mayweather when he was calling them out?
Name a fighter near the weight restrictions that is not calling out Floyd? And last time I checked they all are trying to win to get a shot at a huge payday....funny how when he was calling out guys he couldn't get fights...but now he's suppose to fight everyone that according to u poses a threat. When he beats them u will move the goalposts and downplay the win...it is what it is
I'm curious. Who did Floyd call out?
name the last time Floyd fought a guy coming off a win where the two combatants were fighting to face Floyd next.
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Name a fighter near the weight restrictions that is not calling out Floyd? And last time I checked they all are trying to win to get a shot at a huge payday....funny how when he was calling out guys he couldn't get fights...but now he's suppose to fight everyone that according to u poses a threat. When he beats them u will move the goalposts and downplay the win...it is what it is
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Exactly n then floyd gets a pass **** that. Most fighters lose guess why because when the best fight the best that's what happens. Now days though just cause a top fighter losses to another good fighter hes done. Well I guess no one undefeated will ever fight Floyd because he won't make the fight when they are undefeated or very good n if u lose once fans will say u don't deserve it. U either gotta start looking ordinary or old and that's the recipe to getting floyd in the ring
The guys you are calling the best are the exact same level of guy you accuse Floyd of not fighting the best~
When you are the best, I mean actually the best as in the actual definition of no one is better then by definition no one should be a challenge.
name the last time Floyd fought a guy coming off a win where the two combatants were fighting to face Floyd next.
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All I know is that he told me he put it in her a$$ so he didn't have to be your daddy.He was putting it in your ass, that's why you're a queen now. Limp wrist having son of a bch.
How many of his opponents has he actually weighed more than on fight night?
the only fighter that floyd has ever faced that was smaller than him is juan manuel marquez. floyd is a natural jr welter.he started his career out at 130lbs.he went to welterweight because of the money.he walks around daily ay 155lbs. all the jr welters enter the ring weighing more than moey.so stop crying.
If you fought most of your previous fights at 130 or 135 or 140 and then fight a guy who has been at 147 or more since 2005, then the advantage usually goes to the guy with more experience at 147.
You can come in at higher than Floyd on fight night but that doesn't mean that they have the years of ring experience against 147 or 154 fighters.
EXAMPLE: Floyd fought at 154 then his next opponent is someone who a year ago hadn't fought at 140 nor 147 and only beat 1 or 2 average fighters at 147 who have losing records of late at WW. Now add the fact that the reason Floyd doesn't gain much weight because he is a ring rat and comes in great shape. Now does it really matter if the opponent comes in heavier? Does heavier translate to being in better shape than Floyd? Actually, especially for a fighter who recently moved up, it may be a detriment for that fighter since he may become slower, have a lower work-rate and be more lethargic ..... therefore giving the already faster Floyd even MORE of an advantage. The above was Floyd's last fighter, Guerrero.
Floyd already has most of the advantages .... he just wants to seal the deal by getting fighters who just moved up to the big boys division from 130, 135, 140 .... to 147
Don't forget Thuggery and the Margarito fans, I swear they are the most illiterate when it comes to boxing, they accuse Floyd of being disgraceful but consider Marge a true champion.. LOL they got to be ****ing around..
Yet.. You listed this factual details, they will ignore it and continue to say Floyd ducked their ****ty favorite fighter.
Its funny Floyd was ducked by DLH and Mosley using their logic. When in reality Floyd was not a PPV draw back then and far too much of a dangerous fight for either guy.
Especially if its not making u more than fighting someone else.
Same guys that say Floyd fights smaller guys and uses weight to his advantage(which is amazing since he's usually the smaller guy) are the same guys defending Canelo for calling out and 140-147lbers...yet he's a true warrior...lmao.
Then they bring up Paul Williams....jeez every damn guy avoided him....yet now it appears only Floyd has.
Didn't fight Margarito at all. Now margarito is a joke but before, he wasn't. He fought Cotto in 2012, should have been in 2008 but Floyd retired. Didn't fight Paul Williams. Never fought PAC but being how he lost, Floyd gets a pass and doesn't have to fight him. All his fans do is bring up how JMM khtfo as if Floyd khtfo. Now we got Canelo and he's too big because Floyd is now this tiny ww. Lol dude is a 2x champ at jr mw. Smh, IMO, Floyd is a great talent but he's a bird.
Good lord its like we need a sticky or repeat button for people like this. Bob Arum him damn self, in a interview, 2005 said Floyd would have fought Margarito for the 8 mil, but he wad trying to sign Floyd to a 3 fight deal because his contract was almost up. FLOYD agreed to the 8 mil for Margarito, wanted 10 mil for Hatton or Cotto, wanted 20 mil for DLH. Arum told him no way offered 6 to 7 for the next to fights...Floyd bought out his contract and that was the end of that. In the same interview he said Cotto needed to be built up more becore he faces Floyd...so please quit with this garbage... only fighters he hasn't fought are top rank fighters.
Goldielocks you can tell you are a Floyd fan because there can't be fans dumber. U said I was silly vi said u sound silly because you are nut hugging floyd. Now I didn't call u a name just said the truth u are but hugging him then your no brain I having ass called me a cry baby n something else. So yeah your ***** ass started it first mr e thugWow, get somebody to translate for your dumbass. I don't speak broken English.
So, would the fact that you're a nutthugger then make you gay??Your daddy is gay.
please....hatton that floyd fought>hatton that pac fought.....mosley that floyd fought>mosley that pac fought.....dlh that floyd fought>>>>dlh that pac fought.....cotto that floyd beat> cotto that pac beat....all facts these are not opinions.