If Canelo wants a fight fight Chavez Jr.

Chavez was 181 against Sergio Maritinez who was 174. No he wasnt. He has rarely been 181 in fights. He had to be in the 190's like he usually is.

Well I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you here, on top of that you initially said he would have 30 pounds on Canelo, which is ridiculous. Your math is off here. Chavez comes in the ring in the 190's every single fight. Never gets tired, and Canelo couldnt hurt him.

How the f^ck is Nathan Lewkowicz an unbiased source? And how the hell would he know how much Chavez weighed? You do know Sergio has weighed less than that on fight night... he weighed 165 against Barker and 166 against Williams I. He also weighed 167 against Pavlik. https://twitter.com/Nlewkow1/status/247363004897828866 Chavez weighed 181 against Rubio, but he looked even bigger against Martinez; Lampley mentioned Chavez refused to weigh-in on the unofficial scale so chances are he was at or above 181. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/DumbCrud/MartinezvChavezJr1.jpg

Chavez would have 30 pounds on Canelo. I've read my fair share of truly laughable and outright terrible posts on this site, but this one absolutely takes the cake. Sergio weighed in at 167 on the unofficial scale, Chavez refused to weigh-in but most people speculate he weighed between 181-185. ESPN: "Chavez was 185 to Sergio's 167" http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/boxing/post/_/id/2139/best-guess-chavez-was-185-to-sergios-167-on-fightnight How the f^ck is Nathan Lewkowicz an unbiased source? And how the hell would he know how much Chavez weighed?

Chavez KO's Alvarez this would be a fun fight to watch Alvarez is usually the stronger guy, but he'd get bossed in this love fights between 2 guys who can work the body Chavez is just too damn big for Alvarez though, he'll take all his shots Alvarez wears and gets taken out late if this one happens

I've got Chavez steamrolling Canelo ala 'Margarito v Cotto I' if this fight ever happens; I can't see Canelo hurting or deterring Chavez and he can't run for 12 rounds. He gasses in a war of attrition and get's stopped...

Chavez was 181 against Sergio Maritinez who was 174. Sergio weighed in at 167 on the unofficial scale, Chavez refused to weigh-in but most people speculate he weighed between 181-185. ESPN: "Chavez was 185 to Sergio's 167" http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/boxing/post/_/id/2139/best-guess-chavez-was-185-to-sergios-167-on-fightnight

I think Chavez has shown more in one round than Canelo has in his entire career. Canelo is yet to face a truly elite boxer. In a fight, I would put my bank account on Chavez jr stopping Canelo. Btw, if Canelo and Floyd is a good fight regardless of the weigh difference....what makes Canleo and Chavez jr an unreasonable fight? Weight difference would be similar to Floyd-Canelo so, if you want Floyd vs Canelo; logic indicates you want Chavez vs Canelo; both equally fair.

GBP+TR= no fight

why do it now? In a year or 2 this fight could be worth triple what it is now to both guys. That could be true, but sometimes when you wait to long you miss the boat and there has been too many examples of that happening (Floyd vs Pac... etc) and Canelo is looking to headline his first PPV and the only dance partners i would think are acceptable are Cotto, Floyd, Martinez or Chavez jr.

That would be the biggest fight in Mexico and i am sure Bob would co promote with Golden boy if he knew his man would have a better then even chance of winning (just because of the size and chin factor in favor for his man) Chavez wants it and golden boy could make a catch weight at 157 to try to drain Chavez even more. The fight would almost if not be a big as the Mayweather fight (which is not going to happen) I am Mexican and i would actually like to see that fight more What do you think? why do it now? In a year or 2 this fight could be worth triple what it is now to both guys.

Chavez was 181 against Sergio Maritinez who was 174. So a 9 pound difference between Canelo and Chavez, I see I was off by a few.

How long have you been watching chavez fight lol? He regularly puts on 30 pounds per fight. he's probably cheating all the scales except the official weigh in. It also might have something to do with why he always refuses to give a urine sample after every fight. Chavez was 181 against Sergio Maritinez who was 174.

Those wide looping shots on the outside aren't gonna land when Chavez attempts to work his way in, I think we're forgetting how slow his hands and foot are. The body shots will though.

He's also much smaller than Lee. You speak about combo's, while acknowledging that he fights in spurts. He isn't gonna throw combo's or remain active for 3 minutes through 12 rounds. He gasses, Chavez doesn't. Chavez will apply pressure 3 minutes for 12. Canelo is smaller and he'll feel the pressure, get tired and be stopped. Those wide looping shots on the outside aren't gonna land when Chavez attempts to work his way in, I think we're forgetting how slow his hands and foot are.

How long have you been watching chavez fight lol? He regularly puts on 30 pounds per fight. he's probably cheating all the scales except the fight night one. It also might have something to do with why he always refuses to give a urine sample after every fight. Well I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you here, on top of that you initially said he would have 30 pounds on Canelo, which is ridiculous. Your math is off here.

Canelo is far more offensively gifted than Lee, it's not that Canelo can punch, it's his combinations that will do Chavez in ultimately. As for the bold, he doesn't have to. He's also much smaller than Lee. You speak about combo's, while acknowledging that he fights in spurts. He isn't gonna throw combo's or remain active for 3 minutes through 12 rounds. He gasses, Chavez doesn't. Chavez will apply pressure 3 minutes for 12. Canelo is smaller and he'll feel the pressure, get tired and be stopped.

I don't think Canelo moves like Martinez does. I also don't think that Canelo has more power than Andy Lee. And Canelo takes too much time off in almost every round. I still believe Chavez is one of boxing's most effective pressure fighters. I don't see Canelo hurting Chavez and I don't see him fighting a full 3 minutes for 12 rounds either. Canelo will look good early, but the size and pressure will get to him late. I see the fight being a carbon copy of Cotto/Margarito 1. Canelo is far more offensively gifted than Lee, it's not that Canelo can punch, it's his combinations that will do Chavez in ultimately. As for the bold, he doesn't have to.

Could Chavez make 157?

But Sergio has the ability to throw shots you don't see coming. He also uses his legs much better to position himself to throw shots on a guy like Chavez. If Canelo stands in front of him, and goes blow for blow, it could be a nightmare for Canelo. Sergio's legs are what kept him safe in the fight. I understand that but Canelo is defensively responsible, he will block and smother Chavez if need be, which is what Martinez also applied.