comparing the eras two top fighters by facts not opinions...may and pac

It is so easily to see a poster without logic and reputation. They are usually in RED and always failed to figure out the mean point. I agree with this one.

It is so easily to see a poster without logic and reputation. They are usually in RED and always failed to figure out the mean point. I totally agree.

Some may agree or disagree but Floyd Mayweather is and will be remembered as the best fighter of this. Why I feel this way is skills and flat out facts when comparing the two. Titles: PAC has won 4 lineal titles Mayweather has three, edge PAC Mayweather has a better record in title fights 21 and 0 edge Mayweather In less fights Mayweather has beaten more champions, title holders and top ten contenders as far as title defenses Mayweather also has more and everyone knows a title is easier to win than keep Questionable wins Mayweather has one over a guy he clearly beat in the rematch whereas PAC has 3 over the same guy Record....Mayweather is 44 and 0 PAC has I believe 56 wins and 5 loses edge As far as hall of fame wins that's not gonna be decided when they retire PAC is great, exciting, and an ambassador to the sport....just was never the best in his era nothing against him. A top 30 great My question is simple? Do you guys consider Marquez higher on your list of ATG above PAC. I actually do and if the fights would've Been scored correctly PAC would've had more loses. I actually give PAC credit or barrera, but not Morrales two loses because I felt he should've fought Raheem instead after Raheem destroyed Morrales. I also knock him down further for weight draining Cotto, Oscar, being afraid to fight Yuri Foreman and the questionable competition fom 140 that he fought. Floyd had just beat Hatton and David diaz was garbage. To me the best fighters at 140 were campbell, Bradley, Juan Diaz, holt, Petersen and others. PAC and Marquez resume is similar as far as knockouts but I always felt Marquez was screwed in at least two of those three fights.

LMAO Without opinions and only FACTS Pac would be way ahead. Floyd needs probably needs solid wins againts real threats. see below :) 4 Lineal Titles + 2 legitimate belts + 1 Paper Title Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Hatton, Sasakul , Ledwabba, Clottey, Mosley, DLH and Margarito are greater than Corrales, Castillo, Marquez, Cotto, Hatton, Mosley, DLH, Hernandez, J Chavez If you try to pick these facts then that is your opinion :)

so in your warped world loss don't count....lol diggers are ranked by wins and loses not just wins...learn the game.....the same old Mosley, odlh and Hatton Mayweather beat PAC fought them after him loses and bad showings.....PAC fought cotto after a loss and bad showing whereas Mayweather beat him after wins and no lose of confidence.... it's not only who you beat but when....the 7th title was cotto at a cartwright and beating nd 8 was beating unranked Margo after a Kayo loss........Hatton after a Kayo l odd.....Morales after losing to raheem.....odlh loss and bad showing ...cotto....see a pattern It is so easily to see a poster without logic and reputation. They are usually in RED and always failed to figure out the mean point.

Greatness is not about your losses fool. It is about what you accomplished overall. I can pick apart Floyd resume into pieces like how he made smaller fighter Marquez and Hatton to move up a few divisions above to his advantages and still weight cheated Marquez to make sure he will win. He faked his retirement to duck prime younger Cotto and Mosley, Margarito, etc.. Floyd lame resume came from beating past prime older Cotto, Mosley, Oscar and bloated Hatton. Did you know Pac beat them easily without making a sweat and gave them the worst beating of their life? Of coure you don't know or pretending not to. LMAO! so in your warped world loss don't count....lol diggers are ranked by wins and loses not just wins...learn the game.....the same old Mosley, odlh and Hatton Mayweather beat PAC fought them after him loses and bad showings.....PAC fought cotto after a loss and bad showing whereas Mayweather beat him after wins and no lose of confidence.... it's not only who you beat but when....the 7th title was cotto at a cartwright and beating nd 8 was beating unranked Margo after a Kayo loss........Hatton after a Kayo l odd.....Morales after losing to raheem.....odlh loss and bad showing ...cotto....see a pattern

PAC got ktfo by Marquez who he never clearly beat....fact lost the only fight that mattered in his series against Morales who had already lost to raheem at lightweight....Morales couldn't make 130 no more and Pacquiao refused a catchweight knowing Morales would be drained......losing to a past prime Morales and almost 40 year old Marquez.....is why he is the not the best of this era as well Greatness is not about your losses fool. It is about what you accomplished overall. I can pick apart Floyd resume into pieces like how he made smaller fighter Marquez and Hatton to move up a few divisions above to his advantages and still weight cheated Marquez to make sure he will win. He faked his retirement to duck prime younger Cotto and Mosley, Margarito, etc.. Floyd lame resume came from beating past prime older Cotto, Mosley, Oscar and bloated Hatton. Did you know Pac beat them easily without making a sweat and gave them the worst beating of their life? Of coure you don't know or pretending not to. LMAO!

Pacman greatness was achieved because of his remarkable accomplishments in boxing not because of his losses. Pac started pro boxing at age 16 from 106 all the way to 150. Pac is a champion in 8 different weight divisions. Pac is a 4 lineal champion in 4 different weight divisions. Take note the above accomplishments were the first and only in boxing history and may not be surpassed by anyone for many generations including Floyd. Floyd admitted he cherry picked his own fights and you wonder why he is undefeated, maybe because of his skills? LMAO! Wake up dude. Being skillful in boxing and undefeated will never break Pacs above records specially if you cherry picking your own easy opponents. Actually you have to fight for it and not afraid of anybody even if you lose. For Floyd to break Pac 8 divisions titles he needs to fight the champ at super middleweight, light heavyweight and cruserweight. For Floyd to break Pac 4 lineal titles he needs to fight the best at super middleweight and light heavyweight but he has superior skills and undefeated so he doesn't need it right? Anyway, Floyd can cherry pick the weakest champs there all he wants and fights them at catchweight but how about his beloved 0 he is protecting at all cost? Opss he is undefeated and has the skills so he is greater than Pac. LMAO! yes, good post....... the problem is the thread is about "fighters"....of which pac is the better fighter... for the simple reason he really comes to fight... floyd comes to box and run...let's say he's the better boxer... so...there it is....pac is the better "fighter".... and people stay to finish watching pac's fights...win or lose.... fans walking out do not speak well of a "good or exciting fight"

HONESTLY I COULD CARE LESS BUT IF U ASK ME PAC IS THE GREATER OF THE TWO 10 titles in 8 weight classes 4 time foty ko of the year fighter of hte decade wins over great great fighters morales ,barerra ,jmm cotto mosley marg hatton bradley oscar clottey cmon man good points.... but, but.... floyd had fans walking out of the fight venue.... uoi have people/fans walking out of pac's fight!? if none....floyd is greater... oooops!

PAC got ktfo by Marquez who he never clearly beat....fact lost the only fight that mattered in his series against Morales who had already lost to raheem at lightweight....Morales couldn't make 130 no more and Pacquiao refused a catchweight knowing Morales would be drained......losing to a past prime Morales and almost 40 year old Marquez.....is why he is the not the best of this era as well

Man, it doesn't matter how many times you fight. So what if Pacquiao has more fights? I doubt that's significant, especially if we're not even looking at anything before he was 24 though he's already been an active pro for 8 years by then. You can look at Mayweather's whole career and say he's had sound competition most of the way through. It's not about how many times you fight, it's about who you fight. Also, superstars don't = the best every time.

Mayweather is better, but Pacquiao is obviously greater....

It'll be a shame if Mayweather was to be considered a great fighter then PAC when they retired. Mayweather really is what is wrong with this era of boxing. His last 5 or 6 years in the sport have been pretty much shameful. Fighting once every blue moon and ducking anyone that poses a challenge. His only last so long at the top because he lacked any guts to fight opponents who could touch him. He admitted to this himself on video. Manny has been fighting some of the best fighters in the game since 2003. I'm not talking just good fighters for their division but great fighters of their era. Morales, MAB, Cotto, and most likely Bradley are all going to the Hall of Fame. PLus the obvious chocies and common Hall of Fame opponents they have.

Only if losses don't count on a fighter's resume. Dude has lost his last 2 fights. Even if you only took Pacquiao's wins into account, I'd still disagree. Pacman greatness was achieved because of his remarkable accomplishments in boxing not because of his losses. Pac started pro boxing at age 16 from 106 all the way to 150. Pac is a champion in 8 different weight divisions. Pac is a 4 lineal champion in 4 different weight divisions. Take note the above accomplishments were the first and only in boxing history and may not be surpassed by anyone for many generations including Floyd. Floyd admitted he cherry picked his own fights and you wonder why he is undefeated, maybe because of his skills? LMAO! Wake up dude. Being skillful in boxing and undefeated will never break Pacs above records specially if you cherry picking your own easy opponents. Actually you have to fight for it and not afraid of anybody even if you lose. For Floyd to break Pac 8 divisions titles he needs to fight the champ at super middleweight, light heavyweight and cruserweight. For Floyd to break Pac 4 lineal titles he needs to fight the best at super middleweight and light heavyweight but he has superior skills and undefeated so he doesn't need it right? Anyway, Floyd can cherry pick the weakest champs there all he wants and fights them at catchweight but how about his beloved 0 he is protecting at all cost? Opss he is undefeated and has the skills so he is greater than Pac. LMAO!

Title is misleading. Should say 'comparing the eras two top fighters by opinions not facts...may and pac'

Although Pacquiao still has the edge resume wiseOnly if losses don't count on a fighter's resume. Dude has lost his last 2 fights. Even if you only took Pacquiao's wins into account, I'd still disagree.

Floyd said he cherry picked his fights by himself and if there is a slight chance his opponent can beat him the fight is off. = Floydiots "He is the GOAT because of his skills and undefeated against cherry picked opponents!" LMAO!

You Floyd fans always complain about people hating, but you guys are the first ones to stir this **** up, and start these type of threads that go back and forth for 30 pages. That type of **** only further fuels the divide between both fan bases.

HONESTLY I COULD CARE LESS BUT IF U ASK ME PAC IS THE GREATER OF THE TWO 10 titles in 8 weight classes 4 time foty ko of the year fighter of hte decade wins over great great fighters morales ,barerra ,jmm cotto mosley marg hatton bradley oscar clottey cmon man

9 out of ten cats disagree. Gotta love floms!:lol1: Sad thing is it's not a popularity contest...and the guy who brought up Sven ottke....may and PAC comp in title fights is far stiffer....between may and PAC it's comparable but may has the edge cause he has won more and lost none...im a boxing fan I always gave PAC his due....he just ain't the best in this era....his hardcore fans have to live with it it