One thing is indisputable Golden Boy has the best stable in boxing

Golden Boy is the muthafuckin boss! They always have good cards and they do have a great stable! Top Tank is crap:boxing:

Arguably better? How when their top 2 are most likely going to retire in a year. Maybe legacy wise their fighters are more accomplished but were talking about the future here, we have Rigondeaux unwilling to move up and Donaire already ducked Mares even Floyd's not fighting forever. And TR has fighters for the future as well. Hell they have a FW champion with only 16 fights. I think they'll be just fine in the future, IMO So what if Rigo doesn't move up, he can run that division for years.

They are certainly the best stable in boxing overall IMO GBP 10 : Mayweather, Mares, Canelo, Trout, Matthysse, Garcia, Broner, Quillin, Santa Cruz, Thurman, Alexander Top Rank Top 10 - Pacquiao, Marquez, Rigondeaux, Donaire, Garcia, Bradley, Alvarado, Rios..... ?? You don't even have to mention two more fighters..... That right there is arguably better then that top 10 from GBP you just mentioned. Guys like Thurman are prospects/upcoming top contenders at this point and Top Rank has a ton of those as well. Hell Top rank might even have more titlists, maybe? Me personally, I don't think there is an "indisputable" best stable in boxing. Top rank has their top fighters and GBP has theirs. Both promotional companies are lacking in certain divisions and almost irrelevant in some, while guys DiBella and K2 have top/P4P fighters as well (obviously not as much) .... Until top rank or GBP snag up ALL of the top fighters, and become a player in more then 3-4 divisions........ I won't be able to say anybody has the indisputable best stable. To each their own, I'm sure ton of people disagree. That's just my opinion.

But to say they only have talent at 140 and some other contenders is straight BS. Who has the better stable at 147, or 154? They do have a decent stable at 147 and 154 but there's other good fighters in those weight classes from other promotional companies, but..those 3 weight classes-140-147-154 they don't completely own them... The whole top 10 isn't from GBP in any of those divisions and besides a few prospects here and there in other weight classes GDB is pretty irrelevant in almost every other weight class. ....so with all that being said, all I'm saying is to say GBP is "indisputably" the best stable, is simply not true And of their 3 "golden divisions" even at 147, one could make the argument top rank has the better stable there, no? That's not indisputable.

You can't be serious? Quillin at 160, Mares at 122/126, Santa Cruz, Mayweather, Broner, Malignaggi, Guerrero, Berto at 147, Thurman, Cotto, Canelo, Trout, Alexander etc. Paulie M, Guerrero and Berto...? Really? They have talent at 154 also. Guys like Quillin as of now can't even face the top fighters in his weight class due to network dispute. Top rank has top fighters at 122-126 as well. Nothing you just said shows that GBP indisputably has the best "stable" in boxing

GBP and SHo have been beating HBO and Top Rank's behind. How has showtime been beating HBO?

Best stable in US Boxing Hasn't done well in reaching further afield they don't need to.... that's way too much work for very little reward. they bring the best fighters to america, where they can fight the best, train and spar with the best, and make the most money. matthysse is argentinian. he doesn't even speak english. god bless murrica.

After donaire Rigo hbo has done jack. Show time had cAnelo trout. Floyd. Lucas Lamont. Garcia Judah and gonna have a lot more later this yr. bob is in trouble he's gonna just try to shove rematches down out throats Say what? Silly post IMO. All you did was just mention two good fights, lucas-ped, Canelo-trout..... Garcia - Judah was a terrible fight and matchup and so was Floyd -Guerrero. Not sure why mention those. Since you just mentioned showtime..... HBO has had even more better fights then showtime already this year, and they're not just going to jump off the face of the earth when showtime has more fights this year, they will too....... Donaire-rigo, Provodnikov-Bradley, PAC-JMM, froch-Kessler, rios-alvardo, (then fights "later this year") Dawson-Stevenson, Garcia-jml, GGG-Macklin, geale-barker, JCC jr-Murray possibly, Bradley-JMM, PAC-rios >>>>>>> lucas-ped, Canelo-trout, Floyd-Guerrero....... Upcoming fights paulie-broner (lol) So I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at? If anything you just showed showtime isn't even close to being on HBOs level yet considering 2 of the "big" fights showtime has has has been terrible, and the next upcoming one is pretty bad too.. And whatever else showtime is putting out this year, how can it be Begger then just those few fights HBO is putting out I mentioned? HBO is/has and will continue to put out exciting fights between top fighters now that they don't have GBP........ And aren't blind to one promotional company, they are truly going to have the elite/world class fights. Cliffs: Looking back on HBOs fights at the end of this year will be mouth watering

I am not taking sides just making an observation, because frankly i don't care who is with who i just want to see good fights If that's the case, even Top rank has put out better fights this year. Golden boy has the most talent at 140, some prospects at 135..... And then that's about it. GBP is pretty irrelevant in every other division, so I don't know how you can say it's indisputable they have the best stable.

Well they still have the best worldwide stable. But yes there are stables with better euro fighters etc. But if u look at the champions and the elite fighters p4p gold envoy is clearly number 1 Sure, but GB can't reach the HW or Cruiserweight division. Those are solid European divisions atm. 168 is also pretty much promoter free hence there's a lot of great matchups there. There's also the lower weights. I don't know much about them honestly, but I know that GB/TR or other US promoters haven't touched them. So yes, elite fighters but only in select divisions. But it also makes you think that if GB/TR where in Europe, that we'd have more elite European fighters? Fun to think over on that one

hmmmm no. I have both. Showtime is good for boxing and season 1 of Homeland. That's it. HBO has Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire, and better movies. How hard is it to have the better stable when there are only 2 choices? Anyway, why are you guys taking sides on this BS? The idea that there are two sides like WWE is embarrassing and hideous for the sport. I am not taking sides just making an observation, because frankly i don't care who is with who i just want to see good fights

It has the best stable in the US clearly, but it doesn't have the best stable in Europe, or the UK etc etc Well they still have the best worldwide stable. But yes there are stables with better euro fighters etc. But if u look at the champions and the elite fighters p4p gold envoy is clearly number 1

Well, you could also say it's a weak stable. Peterson has been giving competitive fights (against Bradley, Ortiz, Khan) until he got summarily sparked in the third round by a newcomer.

What??? Other international stables don't come close, GBP and Top Rank have the best boxing stables worldwide it's not even debatable. It has the best stable in the US clearly, but it doesn't have the best stable in Europe, or the UK etc etc

Best stable in US Boxing Hasn't done well in reaching further afield What??? Other international stables don't come close, GBP and Top Rank have the best boxing stables worldwide it's not even debatable.

Best stable in US Boxing Hasn't done well in reaching further afield

GBP does, but if this whole GBP - showtime relationship affects these fighter's exposure and/or purses, you can expect a few to jump ship.

hmmmm no. I have both. Showtime is good for boxing and season 1 of Homeland. That's it. HBO has Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire, and better movies. How hard is it to have the better stable when there are only 2 choices? Anyway, why are you guys taking sides on this BS? The idea that there are two sides like WWE is embarrassing and hideous for the sport. I have HBO too. Want to make sure I don't miss any fights.

lol True. I added Showtime to my account tonight to watch Matthysse-Peterson. They're stepping up their programming. hmmmm no. I have both. Showtime is good for boxing and season 1 of Homeland. That's it. HBO has Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire, and better movies. How hard is it to have the better stable when there are only 2 choices? Anyway, why are you guys taking sides on this BS? The idea that there are two sides like WWE is embarrassing and hideous for the sport.

Golden Boy is head and shoulders above any other promoter in Boxing