Who wins now - Pacman vs Martinez at 154

Martinez would beat the hell out of Pac. Pac can NOT fight his style of fighting vs Martinez darting in and out vs a bigger, stronger man with a LOT of speed (at 154 he was fast as f uck) not to mention his counter punching abilities and doing what has given Manny problems every time and thats moving. If you struggle with movement Martinez is the LAST guy you throw your fighter in against unless you have no choice. Pac doesnt hit hard enough to discourage Martinez either (partly due to size). I could see Pacquiao getting p willed as Manny has to initiate from further and gets hit with the same punch he did vs Marquez except from the left hand side after being led there all night with long powerful jabs and hooks and straights to the stomach. Martinez simple too much of everything... If they were both the same size now thats different but martinez is quite frankly too much of a total package in relation to the diff in length and power advantage... This fight isnt competitive... See Marquez vs Floyd... When the guy youre fighting is arguably more skilled than you AND is bigger/stronger? Yeah..no. Would you pick Chavez Sr over Hagler? >__>...as good as sr was at the lower weights? lol thank god for a logical post instead of "Pac eats him alive because I like him"

What's with the obsession of pairing guys that are naturally 20lbs+ apart from each other? It's a sport, not a comic book. lol ..........

martinez is way too big not even close

Martinez would beat the hell out of Pac. Pac can NOT fight his style of fighting vs Martinez darting in and out vs a bigger, stronger man with a LOT of speed (at 154 he was fast as f uck) not to mention his counter punching abilities and doing what has given Manny problems every time and thats moving. If you struggle with movement Martinez is the LAST guy you throw your fighter in against unless you have no choice. Pac doesnt hit hard enough to discourage Martinez either (partly due to size). I could see Pacquiao getting p willed as Manny has to initiate from further and gets hit with the same punch he did vs Marquez except from the left hand side after being led there all night with long powerful jabs and hooks and straights to the stomach. Martinez simple too much of everything... If they were both the same size now thats different but martinez is quite frankly too much of a total package in relation to the diff in length and power advantage... This fight isnt competitive... See Marquez vs Floyd... When the guy youre fighting is arguably more skilled than you AND is bigger/stronger? Yeah..no. Would you pick Chavez Sr over Hagler? >__>...as good as sr was at the lower weights?

Hard to tell, but even with how bad Sergio looks these days, at 154 Manny would probably be eaten alive. Margarito was way too big for him and he got hurt bad, Martinez would be worse....specially with pac's last fight. I don't think Martinez is near as good as he was anymore, but neither is pac, and whenever they faced each other....pac would lose. Martinez that fought JCCJr kills Manny at 154, the one that fought Murray, not so sure. He was slow, flat footed and gunshy, while the PAC that fought JMM 4 was ferocious and mobile until the KO of course.

Weight is still a factor between Martinez and PAC, but both are fading fast... Regarding Rigo and Donaire, yes it was a schooling since Donaire learned a few things about himself (and Rigo for that matter) on that fight.

Hard to tell, but even with how bad Sergio looks these days, at 154 Manny would probably be eaten alive. Margarito was way too big for him and he got hurt bad, Martinez would be worse....specially with pac's last fight. I don't think Martinez is near as good as he was anymore, but neither is pac, and whenever they faced each other....pac would lose.

I prefer manny over martinez but if manny and martinez go toe to toe with each other martinez will have the upper hand due to his reach and speed

It would be Pac-Margarito all over again, except Martinez wouldn't go the distance.

We still don't know whether or not Pac's punch resistance is the same.

What's with the obsession of pairing guys that are naturally 20lbs+ apart from each other? It's a sport, not a comic book. Well manny won a belt at 154 and sergio said he would go down to fight pac so i think ill take their facts not yours... Imagine how mannys career would reignite if he took out the mw champ.

Really hard to say to be honest. 154 was never Martinez' best weight. Hes a lot more dynamic at 160. At the same time Manny has never fought at the 154lb limit. It will be competitive.

Are you guys serious... I'm a Pacquiao fan but Martinez would Obliterate him. He's pretty big for Pacquiao Pretty nice troll thread I'm looking forward to seeing the arguments

This would be brutal for Martinez.

Im a fan of both but i gotta say manny takes the win easily. That would be great for his career until floyd grows a pair and steps up. BONUS QUESTION.. Was Rigonduaex vs Donaire like Pac vs Mayweather? I dont think Rigo schooled Donaire by the way... Murray is young compared to Pacquiao and Martinez. I think pacquiao is an easier fight for Martinez than Murray is.

I have a lot of respect for Martinez. His a real champion unlike Floyd. As much as I like Martinez, I have to be honest and true to myself and have to say Manny retires Martinez worst then Manny did with Dela hoy respectfully. I wouldn't want to see it thought cause i like Martinez. Martinez would retire pacquiao.

What's with the obsession of pairing guys that are naturally 20lbs+ apart from each other? It's a sport, not a comic book.

I have a lot of respect for Martinez. His a real champion unlike Floyd. As much as I like Martinez, I have to be honest and true to myself and have to say Manny retires Martinez worst then Manny did with Dela hoy respectfully. I wouldn't want to see it thought cause i like Martinez. hahahaha wow i cant stop laughing haha