Showtime Exec. and Fat Dan take jabs at each other

howtime will eventually have to tell the truth Out of interest, what is there to ensure that Showtime provides an honest figure? Just to clarify: alot of people are saying that showtime will lie about the figure. This is not true as at year end they have to file yearly trading accounts which will determine how much tax they pay. If they inflated the sales figure, they would have to pay more tax, which would be an additional expense so this will not happen. What they might do is say in the next week that they expect it to do say circa 1m buys and the final numbers are not in yet and then in a month or more when everybody has stopped talking about it reveal a lower number. I wont believe what Golden Boy or Mayweather says it does as promoters are notorious for exaggerating PPV numbers. Bob Arum being the biggest culprit of all.

the odd thing is - if it has bombed, i cant see showtime giving everyone, including rafael and iole, the satisfaction of this, especially after calling them out on twitter" "oh yeah, we did 800k. your sources were right, danny boy". one way or another, we're not gonna get the true story.

showtime is questioning sources and saying let's wait and see....but they sure aren't saying it did good.

I'm sure there's some truth to Dan's lead, but lmao at twittering about PPV numbers TWO days after the event. When have numbers ever been released in less than a week? Why is everyone acting like they are new to this?

When have numbers ever been released in less than a week? Why is everyone acting like they are new to this? Cotto- Floyd #'s were released in less then a week. But my point is that why not just release the numbers instead of arguing with him on twitter? It cant be that hard to have an automated computer add up whole numbers.

Is Fat Dan going to go on the official federation of flomos' list of 'haters' after this?

When have numbers ever been released in less than a week? Why is everyone acting like they are new to this? ^^^this, usually takes a couple weeks right ??

Fat Dan won that. There's no retort because they know the PPV bombed. They went negative on what was supposed to be the largest deal in sports. They needed 1.2 to break even, and it did less than 1.0 flat.

I trust fat dan over espinosA on this one Esponosas job is on the line while fat dan has no reason to lie and hes a big mayweather fan ESPN and HBO have a close relationship.. Fattys reason to lie is that if Showtime do badly it makes HBO look good.

Can showtime just release the numbers? How long does it take to count PPVs, which is done by a computer anyway? When have numbers ever been released in less than a week? Why is everyone acting like they are new to this?

I will say that I met Dan in Vegas and he was cool as hell. Very open and will hold a conversation with you. Good guy

If low they just won't report it. This is what happens when you're Constantly bringing up ppv to define your legacy. Now dont get mad when everyone scrutinizes your numbers for every fight. they will release it no matter what because everyone will be asking. Not releasing a number is worse than releasing a low number

Bob arum still counting the pacquiao-Mosley PPV

If low they just won't report it. This is what happens when you're Constantly bringing up ppv to define your legacy. Now dont get mad when everyone scrutinizes your numbers for every fight.

Can showtime just release the numbers? How long does it take to count PPVs, which is done by a computer anyway?

I trust fat dan over espinosA on this one Esponosas job is on the line while fat dan has no reason to lie and hes a big mayweather fan

If Dan was so confident in his sources why hasnt he wrote about it on ESPN.com?

Showtime part of CBS, publicly traded, books have to be open to a certain extent. Doesn't mean they can't fudge the numbers somewhat (companies cook the books all the time) but it does provide some sort of check and balance. that can be said for any fight, but i think something to do with the amount of money made and tax reason so they cant report false numbers. I cant remember exactly but something like that

Out of interest, what is there to ensure that Showtime provides an honest figure? that can be said for any fight, but i think something to do with the amount of money made and tax reason so they cant report false numbers. I cant remember exactly but something like that

I think Fat Dan is wrong though this fight was tracking very well on fight night and was massive on twitter. I feel it will be 1 million +. Out of interest, what is there to ensure that Showtime provides an honest figure?