Nacho's influence on Orlandito Del Valle

I finally watched Del Valles last fight vs Wilson and I saw the changes that Nacho implemented immediately. The stance first of all, he has forced him to stand with the Mexico City stance developed by the late, great Arturo Cullo Hernandez. Lead hand out, feints to set up the body and hook and off angle right hand to counter the lefty stance. Look at him in this previous fight with his hands tight against his chin when he fought Darchynian: Now look at his lead hand out, using feints and landing a very nice left hook. I'm surprised he had as much success with it after being in a certain stance for so long. He looks just like JMM and Rapha Marquez in his stance...LOL Funny seeing a Puerto Rican fighter like that. I couldn't find video of him vs Andre Wilson but his stance is totally Mexico City....

Comments (20)

rogdogx

maybe he can come back and be something. Vic really set this kid back. He seems capable of a rebound

13y ago

Ringlife

I hope De Valle does good with Nacho in his corner. Ricans and Mexicans working together is something you don't see often in this sport. I would like to see this more in the future.

13y ago

whitealltrac

.......... I am fine with his decision just dont end up drinking pee please! :no: Jokes aside there is nothing wrong with PRican trainers, the fact is fighters have 90% more responsability than the trainer. Take Cotto who has trained with the best trainers out there but was more successful with an UNKNOWN trainer that came out of nowhere....his uncle!! If you are good you are good dont really need a trainer per say......another example Felix Trinidad his dad was not known until Tito started to be known.

13y ago

Cuauhtmoc1520

I'd like to see a rematch before Vic is totally washed up I think if he would have had Nacho earlier on, he wins that fight because Nacho made an observation right away that made sense. He went forward vs Vic, he should have counter punched him and boxed him but his heart got the better of him. He said he's sticking with Nacho and that he guarantees he will be the next world champ to come out of Romanza.

13y ago

JmH_Reborn

Orlandito is willing to do what many other arent, work hard and learn. I like his attitude. He is a humble kid. He calls Darchinyan his daddy and joke about it without problem. Many other fighters dont like to accept that others were better than them, and he being so young already accepted that fact. I hope he learns a lot from the best, Mr Berinstain. I'd like to see a rematch before Vic is totally washed up

13y ago

Bigg_Rigg

Mexicans stick together that's why I said that. Not knocking them.

13y ago

jtcs1981

13y ago

killacash

I wish I had video of it but I can't find it on youtube. He struggled early on against the lefty, but then you can see he settled in and started countering with the left hook and then uppercuts when he had him on the ropes. I just downloaded his fight vs Wilson from Simbros's website. He has it on his site.

13y ago

Cuauhtmoc1520

What ever happened to David Estrada?

13y ago

AntonTheMeh

i forgot what his name was, mexican american dude, was being trained by cotto's uncle. i forget the guy's name. david estrada. he's mexican american right?

13y ago

Cuauhtmoc1520

13y ago

oc9979

The best thing he did was go train with Nacho. Some Puerto Rican trainers are garbage for example. Juanma's trainer Quintana's trainer

13y ago

solo20

anybody have the fight

13y ago

AntonTheMeh

Nothing wrong with Orlandito training with Nacho. I bet a Mexican wouldn't go and train under a top Puerto Rican trainer though if there was one. i forgot what his name was, mexican american dude, was being trained by cotto's uncle. i forget the guy's name.

13y ago

Cuauhtmoc1520

Nothing wrong with Orlandito training with Nacho. I bet a Mexican wouldn't go and train under a top Puerto Rican trainer though if there was one. I'm not so sure about that one. I think there are definite differences in training styles, but I think if a Mexican fighter found a PR trainer that fit his style, I think he would go for it. I train many Puerto Rican kids and I know there's a Puerto Rican gym that has a golden gloves girl who is Mexican.

13y ago

Bigg_Rigg

Nothing wrong with Orlandito training with Nacho. I bet a Mexican wouldn't go and train under a top Puerto Rican trainer though if there was one.

13y ago

Cuauhtmoc1520

He said he expected that some Mexicans would be nasty with him, and not one person in his time there ever said one thing. He loves the food, the people and once his face heals up, he's back to Mexico to train and begin sparring with Marquez even. I really like this kid, not because he's gone to Mexico and all of that but because of his humility and willingness to learn. He said it was his idea to go and train with Nacho, that was really surprising. I wish I had film of his last fight so you can see his movement, and his new stance. It's like you are watching Marquez or Rapha fight, it's funny. He had great success from it though, and that was fighting a lefty.

13y ago

Hallaqsillaq

Im glad he fit in well with the Mexicans and they embraced him fully. It reveals much of the true Mexican values behind all that rivalry and hoopla. I hope he sticks with Nacho.

13y ago

PureBoxingCEO

You are totally right. PR is lacking top tier trainers. Many puertorricans must follow DelValle's steps and join a mexican (or cuban) trainer.

13y ago

Hallaqsillaq

He talks about it here. In business it is customary to benchmark and implement "best practices". I'm sure many PR prospects would do well to seriously look at what the Mexicans are doing with their talent. The local trainers aren't up to par anymore IMHO.

13y ago