Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Guerrero Post Fight Discussions. POST HERE. NO NEW THREADS!!!

Are you serious? lol..............

my father scored this fight 116-113 GUERRERO. i didnt bother to respond

First of all, the last time Floyd didn't fight an opponent that was for 147/154 division was 8 years ago. For some that is a career! Either way you look at it, its a long time. To say that Floyd is a blown up light weight is a joke. Floyd didn't even make the 144 limit against Marquez. Floyd looked bigger than Mosley in their fight. That is no lightweight. What you need to realize is that Floyd is a gym rat so he doesn't gain a lot of weight between fights. That can be advantageous since during training camp Floyd just concentrates on training so he can tweak his skills and get into even better shape so he can get to another level instead of worrying about losing weight in which can weaken him and possibly give him stamina issues. Secondly, we are not talking about a division that he has never been to before. His last fight prior to Guerrero was at 154. He even holds a title there and is considered P4P #1. So not sure what the complaining is about. Funny that you say that he only fought twice but Marquez, who really was a blown up light-weight had to jump nearly 3 divisions to fight Floyd at the age of 36. Hopkins moved up divisions at age of 40+ ..... but Floyd should be different? Why? Like you said, "He needs to cherry pick?" SRL fought Hagler, Hearn, Duran,... So SRL shouldn't have fought these guys because it was too risky? Oscar's last few fights included the bigger Hopkins and he even fought Floyd when Oscar, the part time boxer, was clearly out of prime and his own trainer said "Oscar can't pull the trigger". So Oscar shouldn't have fought these guys because it was too risky? Many fighters have done what you are saying that Floyd shouldn't ever do. The same goes for Manny. While I have no problem with his pick considering its a come back fight, prior to that I criticized some of his picks. What you need to realize is that Floyd is a gym rat so he doesn't gain a lot of weight between fights. That can be advantageous since during training camp Floyd just concentrates on training so he can tweak his skills and get into even better shape so he can get to another level instead of worrying about losing weight in which can weaken him and possibly give him stamina issues. Staying in shape and taking care of your body as an athlete shows dedication and connittment to one's craft. ANy fighter can do this but they choose not to. You are basically complaining that floyd has an advatage because he works harder and trains more often. Yeah every great athlete that does this has an advantage. All of floyd's contemporaries except Bernard Hopkins can do the same they just choose differently. Newsflash you ****ing moron-any athlete that keeps in shape year around, that practices his craft a few hours a day when others are sleeping or chilling, is going to be better than the guys that don't work as much or as hard. Its not ****ing magic. It's simple-any good craftsman takes care of his tools.

So Money should fight everybody we want him too thus granting HUGE paydays to every tom, dick and harry...The man make 32 mil a fight and receive over 1 mill PPV per fight, like it or not he is a superstar and thus has EARNED the right to cherry pick. The same goes for the Pac-Man, he has also earned the right to cherry-pick...just like the Golden Boy and Sugar before him. After a while when you get to that status, you stop fighting all comers and cherry pick your opponents...remember this is a business and I don't view cherry-picking as a negative when you get to that level of STARDOM. You act like Money has been a career 147 lber, the man started his career at 130. Money is nothing but a blown up light-weight. First of all, the last time Floyd didn't fight an opponent that was for 147/154 division was 8 years ago. For some that is a career! Either way you look at it, its a long time. To say that Floyd is a blown up light weight is a joke. Floyd didn't even make the 144 limit against Marquez. Floyd looked bigger than Mosley in their fight. That is no lightweight. What you need to realize is that Floyd is a gym rat so he doesn't gain a lot of weight between fights. That can be advantageous since during training camp Floyd just concentrates on training so he can tweak his skills and get into even better shape so he can get to another level instead of worrying about losing weight in which can weaken him and possibly give him stamina issues. Secondly, we are not talking about a division that he has never been to before. His last fight prior to Guerrero was at 154. He even holds a title there and is considered P4P #1. So not sure what the complaining is about. Funny that you say that he only fought twice but Marquez, who really was a blown up light-weight had to jump nearly 3 divisions to fight Floyd at the age of 36. Hopkins moved up divisions at age of 40+ ..... but Floyd should be different? Why? Like you said, "He needs to cherry pick?" SRL fought Hagler, Hearn, Duran,... So SRL shouldn't have fought these guys because it was too risky? Oscar's last few fights included the bigger Hopkins and he even fought Floyd when Oscar, the part time boxer, was clearly out of prime and his own trainer said "Oscar can't pull the trigger". So Oscar shouldn't have fought these guys because it was too risky? Many fighters have done what you are saying that Floyd shouldn't ever do. The same goes for Manny. While I have no problem with his pick considering its a come back fight, prior to that I criticized some of his picks.

im as serious as i was when i picked ghost to win thinkin all the recent changes floyd went thru would take off his focus. how wrong can i b? thats a good fight right there, nobodys gonna trap floyd on the ropes and beat him up. ghost kept trying and thats all u can do. that was as good as it gets. cotto tried too, no cigar. shane won like 2 rounds. oscar started packin up about halfway thru the fight. canelo? he weighs more but he's onlly 5'8' and for all his accurate sharp punching, he's not so difficult to hit and v floyd will b matched with a faster precise hitter who is defensively invisible. i dont think thats a mystery to team canelo so look for them to defer the match until he gets a few more key wins under his belt to max out the purse n then they'll make the fight

imo ghost did better than cotto, had Floyd jumpin around like shabadoo in round 12. ghost did his best and never quit comin. lost on points but gave Floyd biggest challenge since the delahoya fight. great fight Lmmfao! I hope you're not serious.

also, i think if the winner of the mathysse-peterson fight fights danny garcia, then the winner of that fight becomes a viable opponent for floyd at catchweight. whoever it is dont have a chance in hell against floyd but will be big enough name to sell. 5 more fights for what they payin showtime will want big enough events. u know? right now, who is mathysse? is that maravillas little brother or what? u know?

Easy win for Floyd he's a great defensive fighter better then Whitaker imo I hope he mans up though and fights Canelo. Dude, I agree with you and I'd love to see Mayweather v.s. Canelo but realistically, Mayweather is perhaps too small. he walks around at 155 and Canelo walks around probably over 175. I think Floyd can fight the smaller Jr. Middleweight guys but a bonified jr would be asking alot. I'd like to see it cause the money would be crazy and I really do feel Canelo is too slow. In the event that Floyd wins everyone will then demand Martinez. There is no end to who he'd be expected to fight before he's considered one of the greatest to lace them up.

i dont know what they worked on in camp but floyds always been able to land that lead right laser on southpaws. ghost did his best n pressed from bell to bell. floyd clearly won more rounds, imo had at least one dominant round where i started to think he was gonna go for it somewhere around the 8 or 9, whichever round it was, he dominated that one. if u a floyd fan u say dominated or picked ghost apart but if u honest u say floyd did his thing landing precision counters outlanding ghost 2 or 3 to one and took a clear decision. that scatback jumpin bean dance he was doin in there in the twelf shows u how quick his feet still are and dispells the use of the word dominant. if he did dominate, he woulda went on and chopped up ghost which is exactly what woulda happened if ghost woulda went in blind swingin. ghost fought the best he could, there's no simple plan to beat floyd.

Of course he would, Floyds a 154lb champ and Lucas is a champ at 140 :lol1: knowing Floyd though he probably is gonna cherry pick somebody from 140 for his next fight :lol1: typical Floyd. Mathysse would have been eaten alive by floyd at 140, where he actually threw combinations and hit for power.

imo ghost did better than cotto, had Floyd jumpin around like shabadoo in round 12. ghost did his best and never quit comin. lost on points but gave Floyd biggest challenge since the delahoya fight. great fight Money came out trying to use what they worked on in camp repeatedly, lead right hands. The Ghost has a habit of leaning and falling asleep in the ring, in round 8, Money woke him up with a mixed attack of body shots and looping right hands. Money kept the distance, and took away the Ghost's sight and punching opportunities. The Ghost should have just let the shots fly against Money anyway even if there is nothing to see, it can open Money up to make a mistake, but it didn't happen and as the fight moved on and Money started to dominate, it was clear the Ghost was staring face to face with the next level.

For many of his WW fights, his opponents fought that many or even less yet you guys were not complaining ....... Fights at WW prior to Floyd: - Marquez = 0 - Hatton = 1 - Ortiz = 1 - Guerrero = 2 - Sharmba = 1 Khan would be next with 0 fights but unfortunately his chin is not cooperating. Well at least you admit that Floyd is a cherry picker but to say that he earned it is hilarious! So Money should fight everybody we want him too thus granting HUGE paydays to every tom, dick and harry...The man make 32 mil a fight and receive over 1 mill PPV per fight, like it or not he is a superstar and thus has EARNED the right to cherry pick. The same goes for the Pac-Man, he has also earned the right to cherry-pick...just like the Golden Boy and Sugar before him. After a while when you get to that status, you stop fighting all comers and cherry pick your opponents...remember this is a business and I don't view cherry-picking as a negative when you get to that level of STARDOM. You act like Money has been a career 147 lber, the man started his career at 130. Money is nothing but a blown up light-weight.

imo ghost did better than cotto, had Floyd jumpin around like shabadoo in round 12. ghost did his best and never quit comin. lost on points but gave Floyd biggest challenge since the delahoya fight. great fight

Uh no...nice try jack. Money is a 147 lb champ that started his career at 130 lbs. He only fought twice at 154 lbs for the money, something the guy in your avatar would do as well if presented the opportunity. Money beat the guy that gave the guy in your avatar one of his two losses....once you make 32 million a fight, you've earned that right to cherry pick...every fighter can't win the lottery (fighting Money). His ticket to the Hall of Fame is secure, is the guy in your avatar ticket secure? Money would embarrass that guy in your avatar, and I like the guy in your avatar. For many of his WW fights, his opponents fought that many or even less yet you guys were not complaining ....... Fights at WW prior to Floyd: - Marquez = 0 - Hatton = 1 - Ortiz = 1 - Guerrero = 2 - Sharmba = 1 Khan would be next with 0 fights but unfortunately his chin is not cooperating. Well at least you admit that Floyd is a cherry picker but to say that he earned it is hilarious!

Of course he would, Floyds a 154lb champ and Lucas is a champ at 140 :lol1: knowing Floyd though he probably is gonna cherry pick somebody from 140 for his next fight :lol1: typical Floyd. Uh no...nice try jack. Money is a 147 lb champ that started his career at 130 lbs. He only fought twice at 154 lbs for the money, something the guy in your avatar would do as well if presented the opportunity. Money beat the guy that gave the guy in your avatar one of his two losses....once you make 32 million a fight, you've earned that right to cherry pick...every fighter can't win the lottery (fighting Money). His ticket to the Hall of Fame is secure, is the guy in your avatar ticket secure? Money would embarrass that guy in your avatar, and I like the guy in your avatar.

Of course he would, Floyds a 154lb champ and Lucas is a champ at 140 :lol1: knowing Floyd though he probably is gonna cherry pick somebody from 140 for his next fight :lol1: typical Floyd. Floyd is also a 130 pound champion while Lucas is 140 pound champ. Lucas also walks around bigger and is bigger on fight night but dont let the facts get in the way. Only different between the 2 is talent. Floyd is not fighting there because of his size. Its because his talent and dedication allows him to go places where most cant

just watched the fight for the first time....................G-A-W-D-D-A-M it was boring, I feel sorry for the people that actually wasted $70 on this. It was a Baldomir type of performance. He would beat the man in your avatar by boring decision by a 12 round shutout.....it called the sweet science, not mix martial arts or pro wrestling.

Michael Jordan at 90% was still heads above everyone across from him. In the case of Money, I don’t think things are any different. The Ghost actually surprised me! His ring intelligence and the collective team game-planning of Team Ghost was incredibly proficient. I think they had a solid plan. I think he came in and executed it brilliantly. As a matter of fact, I think he fought a more intelligent fight than any Money opponent in recent history, excluding Angel. In the end, it simply didn’t matter. Where the typical fighter gets caught in the moment…..Money finds a way to defeat you within the second. In other words, when the opponent is saying to himself “he just connected from the left, this time I’m gonna go right”, Money is saying to himself, “I just went to the left, this time, let me feint to the left, fake the right, THEN land again with the left”. Hi-tech stuff, but that’s how developed his mental warfare truly is. I hate to say this because it’s a direct quote of his, but for lack of better terms, “there’s no way to gameplan for “. He never does the same thing twice. The many variables of his game make him a very difficult puzzle to solve. Broadcasters spoke of how he threw the right hand about 5 or 6 different ways. So not only does an opponent have to worry about which hand he will throw, but also from which angle it may come. So they have to figure that out, and avoid it in real-time – which, with his speed happens in the blink of an eye. It’s Chinese arithmetic. It’s unreal! I don’t think the Ghost could have done anything better. He was conditioned. He executed a very solid gameplan. He varied his attack. And he wasn’t intimidated. He simply fell victim to the same man 43 other guys had no answer for. I don’t think the Ghost was a joke on any level. I just think the man he stood across from was a riddle. One that’s far from easy to solve.

The problem with people who just watched it for the 1st time is that you guys heard about a dominant performance so much that you were looking for the Gatti fight. Just because its not that doesnt mean its not dominant. Your judgement is stained because you already went in looking for the fight to be one way so when it wasnt like you thought, then it automatically feels like Ghost is doing better. If you rewatch it back now and then again, you should be able to see the master piece that people speak of. I think the problem is that alot of people miss the subtle nuances in boxing. Thats why fighters & trainers appreciate Floyd more. They see all the lil things he does and again, he did a million of them in this fight. Brilliant stuff but the average fan can only see black & white stuff. If thats all you see then you are no different than a casual fan.

I didn't watch the fight until the replay on Showtime Saturday night but I think what I heard about Floyd dominating and winning easily, was not exactly true. I thought the fight was much more competitive than fights like Hatton or Marquez. That Guerrero was not completely outclassed. Mayweather ran a lot and threw 6-10 pot shot rights a round. Apparently that is considered masterful boxing. Sometimes his rights connected and a lot of other times they didn't. Mayweather's jab and left hook were not effective. He never hurt Guerrero. Guerrero was the aggressor most of the time. He landed a lot of good thudding body shots, but it is difficult to land head punches to Floyd because he moves a lot and has great anticipation. Although I guess Floyd won, Guerrero did win rounds. I see some signs of age in Floyd. I don't think that was one of Floyd's greatest performances at all. He would not make easy work of Canelo if he actually fought him, which he won't. Translation = Floyd painted a masterpiece.