Please maravilla retire! Chavez ruined you!

lol they wont understand this. I even seen some clown say the floor hurt Martinez LOL who put Martinez on the floor, Before Chavez Fight No broken bones No surgery needed punch resistance After Chavez Broken Hand Multiple Surgery needed Punch Resistance gone Counseling needed Chavez ruined Martinez, Martinez will go on and embarrasses him self and people would start doubting the legitimacy of him even being on the p4p list to begin with (which is already starting to happen), meanwhile chavez will go on and become better and better. Broke his nose in the Barker fight, had a lingering leg injury for the prior last year and broke his elbow 7 days before the Macklin fight. You were saying though? :sad:

yea the 3 punches chavez landed messed up martinez, not being 38 years old and having over 50 fights, not at all... or knee surgery and a broken hand in round 2 of this fight....Sergio just a bum

How do you ruin somebody by getting beat up by that person 11 and a half rounds out of 12? Good question. The answer is: you don't. Only blind Chavez fans will claim that Martinez was ruined by Chavez Jr. The fact is... Martinez is 38 years old and shop-worn. He's on the downside of his career. But he still had enough to give Chavez Jr. the schooling of his life, which is what happens when you've been spoonfed inferior opposition for over 40 professional fights.

so you are saying the leg damage the broke hand and the surgeries and more to come MEAN NOTHING JUST WOW. ONLY BOXINGSCENE WILL YOU FIND THESE MORONS I hope you're not serious because that would be...embarassing. And if you are..and lets assume I am then YES!! That's what I'm saying. Because EVERYBODY knows Sergio had a career altering injury to his left hand prior to Jr (fyi, he's missing a damn knuckle in his left hand) AND he came IN with the injury for jr. That's why they called it a "prior injury". So what did Chavez Jr do exactly? Martinez breaking his hand on his face means Chavez took something out of him? >__>...... This is not taking boxing law into account as well. Boxing Article 1WC states the dominated shall hereby be considered soul less for the rest of his career. Any bad performances in the future by the dominator will thus be credited to age and wear and tear. Get informed bro. Do you even lift? P.S. Sergio is legit 38+ (as previously mentioned by a poster who I'm sure has verified this as correct..he wouldnt make this up)

so you are saying the leg damage the broke hand and the surgeries and more to come MEAN NOTHING JUST WOW. ONLY BOXINGSCENE WILL YOU FIND THESE MORONS lol they wont understand this. I even seen some clown say the floor hurt Martinez LOL who put Martinez on the floor, Before Chavez Fight No broken bones No surgery needed punch resistance After Chavez Broken Hand Multiple Surgery needed Punch Resistance gone Counseling needed Chavez ruined Martinez, Martinez will go on and embarrasses him self and people would start doubting the legitimacy of him even being on the p4p list to begin with (which is already starting to happen), meanwhile chavez will go on and become better and better.

Chavez really messed this guy up, I actually had Murray winning this fight yea the 3 punches chavez landed messed up martinez, not being 38 years old and having over 50 fights, not at all...

Chavez really messed this guy up, I actually had Murray winning this fight

in his entire "career," the only thing JR ruined is the precious time and moods of those who actually thought it would be productive to watch this disgraceful joke of a clown step into the ring...:bottle:

broken hand knee surgery yep that couldnt have had no effect MORON SARCASM Nuff said Uhh, h.e.l.l.o. - He broke his hand AFTER HITTING CHAVEZ IN THE FACE TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME .... How does that help your point??? :smashfrea And he hurt his knee when HE FELL, the GROUND hurt him. Again it doesn't bolster your point at all. What's with your obvious need to call everyone a moron? Do you think it somehow makes you seem more intellegent than others? :lol1: It doesn't, BTW. It's actually a sign of insecurity and immaturity in people who feel the need to constantly insult or berate others who have different views than themselves. Maybe you are both, IDK... but, again - it (calling people morons) does absolutely nothing to validate your point of view and just makes you sound unintellegent.

So wait.... After DOMINATING 11 rounds of the fight against Chavez, and making him look lost in Wonderland for 99.99% of the fight - Sergio (who got hit with A good shot in the 12th) got up and continued to brawl with the exhausted Chavez - was ruined for life by the two or three punches he took in 1/2 round in the 12th??? :thinking: Julio after the fight: http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5053407930550456&pid=1.7&w=274&h=188&c=7&rs=1 Martinez after the fight: http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4707723227695259&pid=1.7&w=271&h=184&c=7&rs=1 Nuff said. How dare you try to use logic in here, Chip. :nonono: Side note: No, Martinez didn't look great against Murray. But let's also NOT take in to account that the fight was in his home country (where he hadn't fought in over 11 years) and that he had a huge amount of stress to please his adoring fans, let's NOT take in to account that it was pouring rain on all of the spectators and spraying water into the ring, and let's also NOT take in to account that Martin Murray showed a hell of a lot more skills in the fight against Sergio than Chavez EVER did. Even if we do NOT take all of those things in to account.... whatever happened in the fight with Sergio Martinez and Martin Murray had absolutely NOTHING to do with Julio Ceasar Chavez Jr and his 2 or 3 punch, 1/2 round rally LOSS against Sergio Martinez when they fought. broken hand knee surgery yep that couldnt have had no effect MORON SARCASM Nuff said

Its over, Chavez beat whatever skills you had out of you, retire you made a healthy paycheck, from here on out your only gonna get hurt and kill brain cells. So wait.... After DOMINATING 11 rounds of the fight against Chavez, and making him look lost in Wonderland for 99.99% of the fight - Sergio (who got hit with A good shot in the 12th) got up and continued to brawl with the exhausted Chavez - was ruined for life by the two or three punches he took in 1/2 round in the 12th??? :thinking: Julio after the fight: http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5053407930550456&pid=1.7&w=274&h=188&c=7&rs=1 Martinez after the fight: http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4707723227695259&pid=1.7&w=271&h=184&c=7&rs=1 Nuff said. How do you ruin somebody by getting beat up by that person 11 and a half rounds out of 12? How dare you try to use logic in here, Chip. :nonono: Side note: No, Martinez didn't look great against Murray. But let's also NOT take in to account that the fight was in his home country (where he hadn't fought in over 11 years) and that he had a huge amount of stress to please his adoring fans, let's NOT take in to account that it was pouring rain on all of the spectators and spraying water into the ring, and let's also NOT take in to account that Martin Murray showed a hell of a lot more skills in the fight against Sergio than Chavez EVER did. Even if we do NOT take all of those things in to account.... whatever happened in the fight with Sergio Martinez and Martin Murray had absolutely NOTHING to do with Julio Ceasar Chavez Jr and his 2 or 3 punch, 1/2 round rally LOSS against Sergio Martinez when they fought.

Martinez is too small for the weight class and hes already 38. The fact that he's still winning shows how good he is. Chavez didn't ruin him, father time did. 38 is a dinosaur in boxing years. Then Martinez is not a elite fighter, Marquez has 40 years old and he is a superfighter.

That's not how boxing law works! When you lose in dominant fashion you don't ruin anyone. Boxing law indicates that further bad performances for the victor are to be attributed to age. ALWAYS!!! I thought everybody knew this? Jesus man. Read a book. If Chavez looks bad even 5 years from now..Martinez will be credited with taking his soul. That's how it works. so you are saying the leg damage the broke hand and the surgeries and more to come MEAN NOTHING JUST WOW. ONLY BOXINGSCENE WILL YOU FIND THESE MORONS

That's not how boxing law works! When you lose in dominant fashion you don't ruin anyone. Boxing law indicates that further bad performances for the victor are to be attributed to age. ALWAYS!!! I thought everybody knew this? Jesus man. Read a book. If Chavez looks bad even 5 years from now..Martinez will be credited with taking his soul. That's how it works.

lol whats a better hero than a boxer? a nurse or something lol? wow you even have to ask only in boxingscene will find these guys lol

JR is not my hero and NEVER WILL BE HELL THAT GOES FOR ANY BOXER you must have pretty low stander if you would look up to a boxer being a hero but to say Jr had no part in Martinez decline is borderline dumb lol whats a better hero than a boxer? a nurse or something lol?

Why do you give Chavez so much credit for what you claim he did to Martinez when he repeatedly cheated to make middleweight? You need to pick your heroes more carefully because this really makes you look bad defending him. JR is not my hero and NEVER WILL BE HELL THAT GOES FOR ANY BOXER you must have pretty low stander if you would look up to a boxer being a hero but to say Jr had no part in Martinez decline is borderline dumb

injuries that Chavez CAUSE you moron . he took a beating in the 12 round if he had not fougth Jr HE would have done better aginst Martin Murray. He would have no injuries NO SURGERY PERIOD. He is not the same fighter he was befor he fougth Jr HELL EVEN HBO CLAIMED CHAVEZ MIGHT HAVE RUIN MARTINEZ Why do you give Chavez so much credit for what you claim he did to Martinez when he repeatedly cheated to make middleweight? You need to pick your heroes more carefully because this really makes you look bad defending him.

Chavez didn't ruin him. Advanced age and injuries are beginning his downfall. injuries that Chavez CAUSE you moron . he took a beating in the 12 round if he had not fougth Jr HE would have done better aginst Martin Murray. He would have no injuries NO SURGERY PERIOD. He is not the same fighter he was befor he fougth Jr HELL EVEN HBO CLAIMED CHAVEZ MIGHT HAVE RUIN MARTINEZ

I was disgusted when I looked down and saw this thread, but not only this one but another similar thread.. Then I realize it was boxing scene. Home of the casual fan. So I forgive you. Please keep watching boxing.