Canelo just isn't as good as advertised. I honestly thought he was better than that. His footwork is crap, his handspeed is poor, he looked sloppy and wild at numerous points and his stamina is god-awful. Good for him he'll be fighting in a division where he will outweigh most fighters. I thought he won the fight by a round due to the knockdown but compared to what Mares has done, I think its time for us to realize the truth. Mares is the future of Mexican boxing. He actually has a chance to be great. Canelo, on the other hand, is much rawer than I thought.
Canelos best attribute is his power and like most power punchers they rely on that too much. And can be out worked in fights. Last night I thought Canelo looked 22. If I were Shafer I would stay away from Floyd. At least for September.
I used to pick Alvarez over Lara due to Alvarez body assault and Lara's suspect stamina.
I'm more confident of Lara's chances now seeing as how Nelo has horrible stamina.
The only prob is they would rob Lara too
LOL @ rob Lara too.
Canelo beats Lara's @ss decisively if and when they fight.
Canelo just isn't as good as advertised. I honestly thought he was better than that. His footwork is crap, his handspeed is poor, he looked sloppy and wild at numerous points and his stamina is god-awful. Good for him he'll be fighting in a division where he will outweigh most fighters. I thought he won the fight by a round due to the knockdown but compared to what Mares has done, I think its time for us to realize the truth. Mares is the future of Mexican boxing. He actually has a chance to be great. Canelo, on the other hand, is much rawer than I thought.
LOL @ this hating @ss fool.
Canelo is the truth.
You dudes whine that he doesn't fight top comp and when he takes on Trout (A guy you dudes who love to say he would duck) and beats him, now you fools have the audacity to make a bullsh1t thread like this.
There's no doubt in my mind that the kid is hiding some of the finest china ever fabricated. The excuse "he was young" vs Cotto's brother is all bs from his fans trying to convince themselves.
Did anyone notice how he looks away when getting hit or about to get hit?
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And people can claim that he was preserving energy all they want, but Trout had him hurt at least once, and I think twice from body shots.
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Well I agree really. I think he's got the potential to get there though. Maybe not to the level of Floyd and Roy, but Oscar and Benitez? Who knows?
Unless he's hiding a legitimate glass chin (may be a while until we find out, he's got a solid defense and not exactly a murderers row lined up for competition), there's nothing that he can't work on.
The marketing is probably going to turn some against him. He's obviously not the finished product GBP are going out of their way to pretend he is. Actually I find that quite tiresome, I'm never going to be his biggest fan. That's for sure.
However, the way he's being bought up is reminiscent of young JCC. Writing him off right now could be a bit premature.
Lara could crack that chin if there's something to crack. If Angulo connected, which was doubtful before this fight and even more doubtful now, he could as well.
There's no doubt in my mind that the kid is hiding some of the finest china ever fabricated. The excuse "he was young" vs Cotto's brother is all bs from his fans trying to convince themselves.
Did anyone notice how he looks away when getting hit or about to get hit?
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Somewhere around Miguel Cotto level imo
I'm not denying that's possible, but I see a lot to work with in Alvarez.
He's not going to cruise there, but if he touches his game up he could get further than Cotto. At the same stage in Wlad's career he had just been stopped twice, and was about to be stopped again. Then he bounced back in a major way.
Lara could crack that chin if there's something to crack. If Angulo connected, which was doubtful before this fight and even more doubtful now, he could as well.
They would be great for insight. But I doubt Canelo risks his shot at the Mayweather sweepstakes.
Frankly, can't blame him. That's a ****ton of money to make from one event.
Well I agree really. I think he's got the potential to get there though. Maybe not to the level of Floyd and Roy, but Oscar and Benitez? Who knows?
Unless he's hiding a legitimate glass chin (may be a while until we find out, he's got a solid defense and not exactly a murderers row lined up for competition), there's nothing that he can't work on.
The marketing is probably going to turn some against him. He's obviously not the finished product GBP are going out of their way to pretend he is. Actually I find that quite tiresome, I'm never going to be his biggest fan. That's for sure.
However, the way he's being bought up is reminiscent of young JCC. Writing him off right now could be a bit premature.
Lara could crack that chin if there's something to crack. If Angulo connected, which was doubtful before this fight and even more doubtful now, he could as well.
Yea, not everyone can be a Benitez, Floyd, Oscar, Roy etc. But canelo is supposed to be that supposedly. He's supposed to be the next big Mexican star. I don't see it. Not at all. This was supposed to be his coming out fight, Almost all great fighters have one about this age, even the likes of nonito donaire had his against darchinyan. If u say this was a coming out for canelo then that was a huge disappointment. I mean what can anyone say this kid does great? I tried to find one thing in the fight that he did great. Its not there. No hate, but what he was hyped up to be, he isn't.
Well I agree really. I think he's got the potential to get there though. Maybe not to the level of Floyd and Roy, but Oscar and Benitez? Who knows?
Unless he's hiding a legitimate glass chin (may be a while until we find out, he's got a solid defense and not exactly a murderers row lined up for competition), there's nothing that he can't work on.
The marketing is probably going to turn some against him. He's obviously not the finished product GBP are going out of their way to pretend he is. Actually I find that quite tiresome, I'm never going to be his biggest fan. That's for sure.
However, the way he's being bought up is reminiscent of young JCC. Writing him off right now could be a bit premature.
He young doe, to be fair.
What do you expect of a 22 year old? Not everyone can be Benitez.
I scored the fight for Trout (no complaints from me with the verdict though, except the 118-109 card), and Canelo obviously has a few flaws, but he also has a looong time to iron them out.
How many 22 year olds make it to the top of their division? It's a good division too. I think he could really turn out to be something special if he paces himself better and maybe works on his stamina.
Yea, not everyone can be a Benitez, Floyd, Oscar, Roy etc. But canelo is supposed to be that supposedly. He's supposed to be the next big Mexican star. I don't see it. Not at all. This was supposed to be his coming out fight, Almost all great fighters have one about this age, even the likes of nonito donaire had his against darchinyan. If u say this was a coming out for canelo then that was a huge disappointment. I mean what can anyone say this kid does great? I tried to find one thing in the fight that he did great. Its not there. No hate, but what he was hyped up to be, he isn't.
for some unknown reason Nelo is very popular.
It makes almost no sense when you consider how this guy doesn't even fight like a Mexican. When was the last time you seen a Mexican with stamina that awful? A Mexican who retreats to the ropes against a "cutie" who severely lacks punching power. A Mexican who can't cut a damn ring off
His power is also overrated
I can't believe that he has had nearly as many fights as Mayweather, and still, Trout is his first real test. He's the Mexican version of Berto.
Mares isn't exactly absent of Golden Boy protection either. There isn't a fighter in boxing that fights dirtier than Mares, and he is allowed to get away with it.
Mares is definitely leagues better than Alvarez though.
GBP have done a good job hyping this kid up
He spent near the entire fight throwing one punch at a time, with no combos. Horrible stamina, terrible workrate, defence is average and he's not very fast and his timing didn't impress, bar that one jab to the body.
He has heavy hands and that's about it.
He young doe, to be fair.
What do you expect of a 22 year old? Not everyone can be Benitez.
I scored the fight for Trout (no complaints from me with the verdict though, except the 118-109 card), and Canelo obviously has a few flaws, but he also has a looong time to iron them out.
How many 22 year olds make it to the top of their division? It's a good division too. I think he could really turn out to be something special if he paces himself better and maybe works on his stamina.
the hate is strong in the air.
relax people, sleep on it, come back in a few days.
LMFAO yes lets compare a 122lb fighter to a 154lb fighter LOL.
Clowns, take your lost like a man, trout did.