Carefully paying attention and blocking out the idiotic commentary. Anyone saying Donaire got "whitewashed" is absurd. This Rigo is way too inactive to have pitched a shutout. Hbo's commentary was disgraceful. Ignoring many of donaire's punches and touting the myth of compubox. Are they counting rigo's feints in compubox or what?
Don't get me wrong, the rounds donaire won, rigo gave away from inactivity.
3rd 4th 7th 8th were all Donaire's. 10th, donaire. 113
1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, 9th, 11th, and 12th are ones I could justify for rigo, sometimes only by one good left hand or right hook, so I could easily see one of those rounds going to Donaire on a more biased persons card, resulting in a draw. 114 (cuz of the kd) The guy is just too inactive to win rounds in a shutout, I don't know what HBO is smoking but I want some.
114-113 Rigo
Btw compibox is effin broken at this point. Wow. You gonna tell me rigo landed 10 punches in the 8th? And that round they said Donaire landed only 3? Also wrong. Wtf is really going on.
Take your hbo glasses off please
dont get so offended, rigo won the fight and i only gave donaire 4 rounds, that's 115-112, he'd have to get another kd and win another rd just to make it a draw...i think, dont make me do the math
and honestly some rounds are so close i understand people having it real wide or near whitewash on teh scorecards, donaire didn't win any clear rd's besides the tenth afterall, but those are the rounds i thought he just "barely" took and deserved
naw not offended but i feel like everyday we trying to bring rigo victory down one way or another .... donaire won 3 rounds at most thats all .. and for a so callled pound for pound beast to lose like that its embarrassing .. but a video of one round ..its just ridiculous... alot people dont get that if rigo lost this fight that his career would have been tough to ever get a buzz again .. back to espn! he had more to lose he couldn't get caught with a silly punch he had to win! ... donaire on the other lost but still has his name sake and continue to fight okay fighters at 126! thats what people not understanding ... rigondeaux had to win it was a legacy fight and he prevailed ... years from now people look back on who won not how..... cuba!!
what a joke of a video doanire won 3 rounds at most .. rigo dominated let it go rigo won the first 5 maybe 6 rounds!!!!! hes resting like i greats do . stupid video you could do this to every fight even maywether vs castillo or martinez vs palvlik ..blame donaire for having no plan b and also loosing the first 5 rounds! rigo smart gave him this round but donaire was so tentative and looked lost .. horrible video ..make a video of the first 6 rounds! and the last few in the pocket dominated.. picking one round off a 12 rounds fight its sad... rigo rested like all greats do
dont get so offended, rigo won the fight and i only gave donaire 4 rounds, that's 115-112, he'd have to get another kd and win another rd just to make it a draw...i think, dont make me do the math
and honestly some rounds are so close i understand people having it real wide or near whitewash on teh scorecards, donaire didn't win any clear rd's besides the tenth afterall, but those are the rounds i thought he just "barely" took and deserved
this is how alot of rounds went, barely any punches thrown
winning by a punch or two, and it made it difficult to not give rigo a round when he danced and slipped so cool like, he was definitely in control and ultimately it's why he deserved to win, but the video is very true
what a joke of a video doanire won 3 rounds at most .. rigo dominated let it go rigo won the first 5 maybe 6 rounds!!!!! hes resting like i greats do . stupid video you could do this to every fight even maywether vs castillo or martinez vs palvlik ..blame donaire for having no plan b and also loosing the first 5 rounds! rigo smart gave him this round but donaire was so tentative and looked lost .. horrible video ..make a video of the first 6 rounds! and the last few in the pocket dominated.. picking one round off a 12 rounds fight its sad... rigo rested like all greats do
i agree
look at the 7th round....some fools are saying rigo was schooling donaire when in reality he wasn't throwing anything
this is how alot of rounds went, barely any punches thrown
winning by a punch or two, and it made it difficult to not give rigo a round when he danced and slipped so cool like, he was definitely in control and ultimately it's why he deserved to win, but the video is very true
Rigo makes mayweather look like Leo santa cruz. He's too inactive he has massive talent but he slacked off in several rounds. HBO is looking for a new look and they found one. Rigo won but it wasn't no shutout. Shrug
Yea man you hit the nail on the head. HBO wanted a new look, a non-english speaker with no personality nor fanbase, over the already established eloquent star. /sarcasm
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On a side note i actually can't believe how good the commentary from HBO is for this fight. I'd half expected them to be riding Donaire's nuts despite him getting dominated.
When guys like check hook disagree with me I can tell I'm on to something.
i gave donaire 4 rounds on re-watch, no rounds donaire won were clear though except for the 10th, that's why people say he was whitewashed/dominated/outclassed etc and it's because alot of people on here dont know you can have close rounds that can be toss ups(e.g marquez-pacquiao is seen as a robbery, where marquez clearly won, despite alot of rounds being upto debate), also alot of rounds that i gave to rigondeaux were really close, but he was just a lot slicker and crisp and in control so i my opinion he won the fight no way you can't have him winning it
4 rounds. Yes I gave him 5. But yeah we seem to have seen the fight relatively similarly. Rigo still won, no doubt about that.
Yes.
If one guys objective is to make the round a round where 0 punches are thrown, and the other guys objective is to throw 100 punch,
and 0 punches are thrown...
Who won the round?
That what ring generalship is about, who is in control of the fight and who is dictating when and where battle takes place.
Rigo was obviously the one dictating the pace, when to engage, and when not to. Therefore he was winning the rounds.
This premise favors defensive artists over aggressive ones. 0 punches thrown on both sides, but you award rounds on aesthetics? The whole premise is unfair and biased towards a particular kind of fighter. Aesthetics are in the eye of the beholder as well if you're going to break it down to that. Highly subjective and easily pandered by a wackjob commentary. Nah He has to hit as well. I still want someone to explain to me what ten punches Rigo landed in the 8th, as per compubox? Unless they were counting feints and glove taps wtf man.
I happen to have the fight here in HD.
Don't get me wrong, the rounds donaire won, rigo gave away from inactivity.
3rd 4th 7th 8th were all Donaire's. 10th, donaire. 113
Round 3: 10 secs in & a nice right hook lead from Rigo. Donaire sneaks a bodyshot in. Jab to the body by Donaire, Rigo responds with a straight left that possibly just fell short. Rigo with a nice jab to the body & again. Showing some beautiful defensive skills. Left uppercut inside by Rigo & a left hook as Donaire pulls out. Bodyshot by Rigo followed up with a straight left up top. Jab & a left up top, Donaire gets in a bodyshot. Short right hook from Rigo as he rolls under & out making Donaire look ridiculous. Left & a right from Donaire both bouncing off the top of Rigos head, good straight right hand - Rigo shakes his head & throws a venomous left uppercut to the body. Hard straight left from Rigo.
10-9 Rigondeaux
Round 4: Donaire slips a straight left after being made to miss & eats a left uppercut. Jab to the body from Rigo. Right hand to the body by Donaire (hard to see if it was blocked or not) misses a left hook by a country mile. Donaire misses another left hook & Rigo comes over the top of it with a right. Jab to the body by Rigo, Donaire misses a left hook - jabs off of it which falls short & eats a jab himself. Uppercut to the body from Rigo. Distracts Donaire with the right hand & rips the body. Another bodyshot which apparently strayed low. Eye-catching counter left hook from Donaire & gets plastered with a straight left as he rushes in. Left to the body from El Chacal & another & a left upstairs. Big straight left to finish the round.
10-9 Rigondeaux
7th upon watching previously I gave to Donaire (only round but the 10th), we'll give him the benefit of the doubt here.
Round 8: Give up scoring same old song & dance. I think Donaire landed one punch. So he won this for hitting thin air?
Everything Donaire throws is just missing or half-blocked. Everything Rigo is throwing is crisp & clear and that is why he won the rounds/fight.
By your admission donaire is landing shots. Body shots, right hands, hooks. Rigo busted him up bad in the 11th and 12th but through nine it was close cuz rigo took some rounds for granted. It was 4-4 into the 9th. "by my lights". Rigo picked up the 9th lost the tenth and was one point behind going into the 11th. Far from the whitewash most are puppeting it to be courtesy of the HBO announcing team.
i agree
look at the 7th round....some fools are saying rigo was schooling donaire when in reality he wasn't throwing anything
Yeah I watched it. That's some of what I'm talking about, sure.
i watched it again and i can only confidently give 2 rounds max, 3 being generous.
rigo being inactive still had donaire being inneffective and inactive as well, so those rounds which may have been inactive, Rigo still wins on pure ring generalship ( which is one of the main scoring criteria).
I simply don't get the "Rigo wasn't busy enough", logic. He threw more and landed more. So how the hell does that logic make sense. One more time, "Rigo threw more and landed more".
So if Rigo wasn't busy enough while throwing and landing more, how was the fight close when all Donaire did was follow and get countered??
Rigo makes mayweather look like Leo santa cruz. He's too inactive he has massive talent but he slacked off in several rounds. HBO is looking for a new look and they found one. Rigo won but it wasn't no shutout. Shrug
This is worse than how people were trying to convince us on how Rios beat Abril last year. When your favorite fighter gets outclassed just deal with it. Donaire will feed on 126 tomato cans and shot fighters to regain his supremacy and win fighter of the year by beating muertos.
I simply don't get the "Rigo wasn't busy enough", logic. He threw more and landed more. So how the hell does that logic make sense. One more time, "Rigo threw more and landed more".
So if Rigo wasn't busy enough while throwing and landing more, how was the fight close when all Donaire did was follow and get countered??
i watched it again and i can only confidently give 2 rounds max, 3 being generous.
rigo being inactive still had donaire being inneffective and inactive as well, so those rounds which may have been inactive, Rigo still wins on pure ring generalship ( which is one of the main scoring criteria).
11-1 for rigo but I can perfectly see the inactivity level part...I still think mares would beat rigo...but not sayn that he's better than donaire..mares is the busier of the three...nd some one that's busy will out work a very inactive rigo
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i try rewatching it again but i always got put to sleep.. i always miss some minutes.. have to rewind it again but it keeps on happening again.. i was stucked.. :nonono:
Absolutely right.
The only other round I thought I could maybe give him was the 7th, and I honestly think sympathy had creeped in at that point.
That's domination in my book. Everybody has an opinion. Scorecards will always vary from person to person, hell, my scorecard may change from watching a fight multiple times.
But when a guy only wins one clear indisputable round in a fight he has been dominated.
i gave donaire 4 rounds on re-watch, no rounds donaire won were clear though except for the 10th, that's why people say he was whitewashed/dominated/outclassed etc and it's because alot of people on here dont know you can have close rounds that can be toss ups(e.g marquez-pacquiao is seen as a robbery, where marquez clearly won, despite alot of rounds being upto debate), also alot of rounds that i gave to rigondeaux were really close, but he was just a lot slicker and crisp and in control so i my opinion he won the fight no way you can't have him winning it
The only clear, indisputable round that Nonito Donaire won was the 10th. Am I right or wrong?
Absolutely right.
The only other round I thought I could maybe give him was the 7th, and I honestly think sympathy had creeped in at that point.
On a side note i actually can't believe how good the commentary from HBO is for this fight. I'd half expected them to be riding Donaire's nuts despite him getting dominated.
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