UFC fighter punches boxing coach & gets KTFO!

Silva (or I think it was Slyvia actually) was 6 hundred and 80 pounds when he fought Ray Mercer. No he wasn't, but Mercer was 50 years old.

One champ rule and world wide appeal is why I like the UFC. Fighters get famous and the pool is deep because contenders fight contenders. I don't like 3 round fights. The scoring can be so off. Although what else can they do? 5 is too long for every fight LOL. I hate the commentating. It's a little WWE if you ask me at times. They need to get less sponsors or at least mention them every time. More interviewing post fight would be good. 2 questions is just ****. It is a baby sport and will grow. I know a lot who don't like boxing but love UFC. Not sure why but that is what they like. UFC is far from being in the baby stage, almost 30 years old if not more.

Some stupid remarks on this thread, a fight between a top boxer and a top UFC fighter, well lets put it this way the Boxer has appx 10 to 20 seconds to land his punches and hopefully put the UFC fighter away, if he fails to do this he`s fcuked, once UFC guy gets his hands on the Boxer he`ll be taken down and it will then be up to the UFC guy on how he wants to finish the Boxer eg choke him out, bash his face in with elbows, armbar, ko him with punches so many options really. You are acting as if every top UFC fight would want to take it to the ground. UFC is like boxing once you are in front of a crowd and you get hit; who is to say that MMA fighter is gonna wanna slug it out and then Bang! Sleeping... Not every MMA fighter is a wrestler and not every top guy is a wrestler. Silva, Cain, Dos Sontos,, Jones, and some of the other champs enjoy to strike. So if they choose to, its a done when the boxer gets the chance. People seem to forget MercerVsSilva, Mercer knocked dude out in less than 30 seconds after a failed kick by Silva.

Some stupid remarks on this thread, a fight between a top boxer and a top UFC fighter, well lets put it this way the Boxer has appx 10 to 20 seconds to land his punches and hopefully put the UFC fighter away, if he fails to do this he`s fcuked, once UFC guy gets his hands on the Boxer he`ll be taken down and it will then be up to the UFC guy on how he wants to finish the Boxer eg choke him out, bash his face in with elbows, armbar, ko him with punches so many options really.

wow, a C level wrestler would beat the **** out of any boxer in his weight class. Ya'all don't know **** about fighting. The boxer would have a one shot opportunity but as soon as they clinch it's over. As soon as a wrestler gets cracked... Its over. It goes both ways.

wow, a C level wrestler would beat the **** out of any boxer in his weight class. Ya'all don't know **** about fighting. The boxer would have a one shot opportunity but as soon as they clinch it's over.

And are you really gonna say it has more class? I'll admit the whole UFC theme on ****e was kinda doushy, but it is on the right track ever switching to FX and FOX. Boxing generally does have more class. MMA has a bunch of skin heads or guys with dyed mohawks/mullets that are all covered with tatoos and wear tapout/affliction and puff out there chest. Majority of MMA fighters look like meat heads then put more time in a weight lifting gym then they do a fight club. Boxing USED to have class and may have been doing good for itself lately but there is still plenty of controversy, all of the world in many orginizations. Dont get me started. You got guys like Adrien Broner running around. That should be enough said... There is plenty of controversy in boxing cause boxers are not only fighters but promoters as well. They need to sell themselves hence why boxers generally make more money then MMA fighters. Adrien Broner is young and making more money then any MMA fighter out there. There is plenty of controversy in MMA but none of the fighters are making anything out of it. All the money still goes to Dana White, they get no PPV cuts. So there controversy mainly benefits the UFC rather then themselves. And you dont know what kind of heart/determination it takes to be an MMA fighter. You try fighting with those 4 oz gloves, those guys are risking being knocked out at about a 75% higher rate than boxers when they step into the cage, you tell me theres no heart in that. Getting KO'd is safer then taking ongoing punishment for 12 rounds. It takes more heart and will to go 12 rounds and taking and giving punches for 12 rounds. Boxing used to be 15 rounds which is the scary part. Its safer to get KO'd in 30 seconds then it is to get punched over and over and over for a long period of time. So yes boxing does take more heart. But this is not MMA>boxing or boxing>MMA I like them both about equal I just have to argue certain points that I think do not apply. Fair enough. You're free to do so.

MMA guys generally have weaker chins? Do you consider that cause you see them getting knocked out more. Did anyone tell you that they were using 4 oz gloves? Getting punched from a boxer who has 8/10oz gloves hurts just as much, if not more then an MMA fighter with 4oz gloves. Boxers have far quicker hands, more precision and accuracy then an MMA fighter. There's the old saying and I'm sure even you can agree with... "The punches that hurt the most are the ones you dont see." The reason you see more KO's in MMA isn't because of the glove size, its cause of there weak chins, terrible defense, 0 head movement, inability to roll punches. Generally when MMA fighters get cracked hard, what do they do? They clinch up and try to take the guy down cause of fear of getting KO'd. There are crafts of MMA that can be just as hard to master as boxing and its ironic cause boxing is actually one of the crafts of MMA. lol. But there are so many different forms of fighting into one. Its crazy. Yes, I agree, there are many crafts in MMA, boxing being one of them but the fact is... EVERY MMA fighter today is not great at anything, including Anderson Silva or GSP. You dont have to be a better puncher to win a street fight. You can indeed take a man down and hold him there on concrete I know it is harder, but on the other hand it hurts them A LOT more. And you dont have to be a better wrestler to win a street fight. Yes it would hurt the guy at the bottom but who says the guy on top wont be? There are certain techniques to pass the guys guard, get side control or mount him that involved you scraping and grinding your knees on cement so it wont be as easy as it would be inside an octagon or on a mat. Look at a guys like Rampage Jackson or Cain Velasquez' wrestling and tell me you wouldnt be scared to fight them in a streetfight (concrete floor) knowing the way they have been known to ruthlessly slam people. Every fight starts on the feet, and it takes one punch to change the way you think. Again, like Mike Tyson said "Everyone has a game plan til they get punched." There are no rules in the streets, so up kicking to the face, headbutting, eye gouging, biting is all fair if there on top of you. Look at a guy like Anthony Pettis who can stand up with you and knows footwork. If you are a pro boxer you probably have the hand advantage. But man you better watch for his kicks, before you catch a shin to the head and wake up with an 18 stitch-requiring gash on your forehead. Anthony Pettis is a good MMA striker... Thats as far as it goes. If boxers have to worry about Anthony's kicks then Pettis has to worry about a boxers punches cause the hands are faster then the eyes and certainly faster then the legs.

Easiest way to end a fight is by a punch to the head. Is the safest way also. To choke someone is not easy and the power a pro boxer generates with no gloves isn't a joke. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Yeah man know a few pros with many losses that can still generate enough power on a single shot to put anybody out.

You do realize there is no proof that this even occurred right? and if it did, who cares. I'm not an "MMA fanboy", Boxing till i die but if people want to belive that Boxers>UFC fighters in the street then they are dillusional Can't doo much boxing off your back. Can't do much ju jit su after getting KTFO either......

First off, boxing is a harder sport to master then MMA, cause quite frankly there are no masters of there craft in MMA. MMA athletes are okay/good at everything but aren't great/masters at anything. Generally MMA fighters have weaker chins and are bigger mental midgets. Guys like Anderson Silva, GSP, Penn, Nick Diaz, Jon Jones, etc. are all good strikers... To MMA standards, but they would all be cab drivers/journeymen in professional boxing. MMA is a sport for fighters who are finished and/or didn't make it in there own sport so they jump into MMA. Look at guys like Rich Franklin(former school teacher), Forrest Griffin(former cop), Brock Lesnar (former WWE wrestler), Jose Conseco(former MLB player), KJ Noons(former boxer), etc. The list goes on and on... These guys are all great athletes but MMA is technically a new sport that just arrived to the mainstream in the last decade. I know people will say MMA has been around since the day of the Romans, etc. Yes it did go by the names of Vale Tudo or Pankration before the term 'MMA' came about. But if you look at the fighters in the vale tudo and pankration days, even they were very unskilled wild tough guys... And to this day its still the same with MMA except it evolved a bit and there technique looks a bit more refined. Since the beginning of boxing, boxers always had that proper technique and skill, except now boxers, just add a bit of there own style/swag or whatever you want to call it. That being said, this whole "MMA fighters would beat boxers in a street fight" is stupid. First, its the fighter, not the sport that determines who wins. Second, for those who think MMA fighters would win because they have "more tools", take into consideration the scenery of the fight. Whether it be on cement, grass, or wherever... An MMA fighter can't just "take down" a boxer and start pounding on him. Take into consideration the fact that its already hard as it is to grapple on a mat, let alone the cement where you scratch, scrape and grind up your knees and elbows to pass guard, get side control, or mount, etc. Also a fighter who is punching from his knees has less power then a guy who punches on his feet. There is less moment and torque when you are punching on your knees. Besides, MMA has rules just like boxing has rules... And in the streets, there are no rules so hitting the back of the head, the groin, headbutting, fish hooking, eye gouging are all fair game. Like I said, this whole who would win a street fight thing is nonsense. Some MMA fighters can beat boxers in a street fight and vice versa. When its all said and done, boxing is the much harder craft to master then MMA. Its the more refined and technical sport, the sport with more class, and it takes a lot more heart, will and determination to be a boxer then it is to be an MMA fighter.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=152826&cat=boxer Anderson Silva is the top P4P. He lost in Boxing and his record is 1-1. Indeed you need immense skill to box. To Silvas credit he does posses great boxing skill at the MMA level. Put him in with Ward or Dawson; they box circles around him.

They were not current gen of MMA though. Those were the ones who helped start it out, the 'pioneers' of the sport if you will. Lets see if you get somebody like Jon Jones, or Chris Wiedman to say something like that. Those guys are dedicated to their sport and your not gonna catch them out there saying anything like "boxing is harder and you need to be more gifted to do boxing". Ofcourse they won't. They want to sell their sport but pioneers (the ones who made the sport) are going to critique the future Gen better than anyone else. Jon Jons is a weight class away from getting KO'ed. Weidman is about to be outclassed. Outside of the big stars, their Rankings are pathetic and management is a dirty as Don Kings A$$

Last time I checked they dont RELY on it. Last couple of Anderson's finishes were with a knee to the body and a front kick to the face. These man dont NEED to box. I thought you watch the fights? Silva won, by fainting 3 of Sonnens punchs, countered him (which put him on the ground) and then kneed him while standing. The Griffin fight was all Boxing. The Mia fight wa all boxing. Belfort was all boxing outside of the kick to stop a take down. The Sonnen fight was a failed attempt at boxing, which he had to pulp a triangle choke out his @$$. Dos Santos has not gone to the ground in the UFC outside of his lose, in which he boxed his opponents heads off. Example Cain 1, Nelson, Struve, and rioded Wrestler Mir. GSP, I will give it to you switchs things up but if it was not for his extensive late boxing lessons you would not have seen exciting fights like Diaz (which he out boxed and wrestled Diaz), Kotschik which he broke his orbital socket thanks to the jab he attributes to Freddie Roach.

I wouldnt take anything Ken Shamrock says seriously that man has a glass brain as well as a glass jaw, and Arlovski has a glass brain too as well as a glass jaw. And of course Penn is gonna say that have you seen him fight? The man totally disregards every facet of the game BUT boxing. And dont give me **** about he knows jujitsu. The only reason hes good in that is because of his natural flexibility. BJ Penn is basically strictly a boxer. And not a very good one anymore either if you look at the Diaz fight. All those dude are vets who beat some of the best... Yet their claims aren't worthy. BJ was a beast and consistently put on shows, Arlovski was a beast and made the heavyweight division huge for the UFC, and Shamrock though glass chinned was a vet who was showing an opinion many respect and agree with.

When MMA retards will finally realise that every fight starts with the boxing stance. I know you'll say that MMA guy would try do take the boxer to the ground, but that usually happens when guys are tired. If you take decent boxer and decent MMA fighter boxer will win 7/10 fights.Most MMA fighters are average boxers at best, if they would started trading punches with decent boxer they'll lose. It's called sweet science for a reason

And your foolish if you think all those men stricly rely on their boxing. JDS has been mostly relying on his boxing, but that doesnt go to prove **** about boxing>MMA, especially when you consider his last opponent (Cain Velasquez) dominated him by mostly putting on a wrestling clinic! Also Anderson Silva, while very good with his boxing, has great Muay Thai knees/kicks to fall back on as well. You make it sound like all the greatest fighters in the sport got where they are due to only their boxing, they all have something to fall back on as well. True, but what do they rely on? They may have fall backs but base their attack on what? Yes Dos Santos lost to Cain, but do you forget their first fight in which Cain lost. Second fight Cain won by imposing his ground work.

Dude why are you going all in depth with each guy? I know who all of those guys are I can name every fight they won or lost. I am an avid MMA fan, dont question my knowledge. All I'm saying is someone said many have gone on record to saying 'boxing requires more dedication/harder training'. I asked who said that because I have never heard that out of an MMA fighter's mouth. Still havent gotten answer. MMA and boxing are probably neck and neck preparing for a prize fight. They both have to do very similar things its conceivable that the MMA actually has to put in more work when you think about all the aspects of that sport. The name, you one youtube it was a shamrock, Arlovski, and Penn interview.

Oh yea? like who? Because I am a veteran watcher of UFC and never have I heard 1 say that. I think you just made that up quite honestly. While they lack the same boxing technique/knowledge, the amount of work they put in is about equal/more when you consider all the other facets of fighting they train... Lets see; Anderson Silva, GSP, Dos Santos (pure boxer and missed up everyone), Shamrock, Liddell, Penn... And many many more. You say your a vet fan your your fighting knowledge is down. Silva considered best UFC fighters uses considerably all boxing skill in his fight only resorting to Jujitsu on his back, Dos Santos had made a fool of almost every opponent with his superior boxing skills and only again resorting to Jujitsu to shut down take downs, GSP a wrestler is known to have taken huge strides in Boxing Technique in which has made him remain the champ (was taught by Roach for over a year), Liddell was known for his straight right, and used judo to help his keep from going to the groud/help he up. Don't wanna argue wrestling or boxing differences with me friend. Father was a state champ and NCAA wrestler, and mothers side grew up all boxers from my great grandfather boxing with Dempsey. Not disrespecting the sport, but fact show. Boxers in MMA with Wrestling/Judo/Jujitsu skill do more successful than the many with none...

What if an MMA fighter can't take a boxer down? All these guys assume that once you attempt your tackle you'll get it are insane. Football and even clowning around with the boys you learn how to not be taken down easily and really, there isn't nearly that much "art" in keeping your balance. Obviously if you train for it you'll be better at taking people down but boxers also have superb balance and footwork. How many times in a UFC fight do you see guys have solid take down defense and force stand up fighting? Most of the time guys get taken down when they are gassed and sorry but boxers have LOADS more stamina than MMA fighters. In a street fight all it takes is one punch to end it, and boxers can throw that one punch much better than any MMA fighter.