I think Hopkins beats Cleverly pretty easily

Crazy people complain about Klitschko brothers not fighting, but see nothing wrong with two people who aren't even blood related ducking each other for easier opponents to make that paper. How are they ducking each other? They're not even in the same division.

Easy win for Hopkins. Cleverly is pants.Alhough I would agree with you on paper absolute best OLD Bhop eats Clev for breakfast mainly because Clev is a load of balls - its worth mentioning that at 50 years of age, its a whole new ball game to raise yourself to your prime motivation and absolute best shape and maintain it, in order to last 12 rounds and win the fight. Every ball is in Clev's court. Literally al he needs to do is fake a series of injuries to delay the fight a few times over, Bernardw ill lose his peak fitness and Clev can win by gassing the old man out.

Not an alt, and I'm just telling it like how I see it. Should I shut up for giving my opinion? Why is Bhop after the paper champions and kids instead of the real Champion in Andre Ward? Why is it that when Hopkins stepped up to the plate against a good fighter in Chad Dawson he took a schooling, than after the fight he claimed robbery even tho he lost in a lop-sided fight against Dawson. Calzaghe (undefeated, unified champ at 168) Pavlik (undefeated, middleweight king) Pascal (WBC light heavyweight champ x 2) Chad Dawson (WBC LHW champ x 2) Cloud (IBF champ) You can pick and choose all you want but he's fought the best and the guys that people wanted him to fight. He's cleaned out and been the lineal, unified and/or Undisputed champ in both divisions he's fought in. If the best you can do is find one guy, who is young and a recent champ in a different division and busy with his own early reign, then you're making your own case for how great he is without even realising it.

Easy win for Hopkins. Cleverly is pants.

Not an alt, and I'm just telling it like how I see it. Should I shut up for giving my opinion? Why is Bhop after the paper champions and kids instead of the real Champion in Andre Ward? Why is it that when Hopkins stepped up to the plate against a good fighter in Chad Dawson he took a schooling, than after the fight he claimed robbery even tho he lost in a lop-sided fight against Dawson. Yes, you definitely should.

I don't rate Cleverly but he will pose alot more problems than Cloud for Hopkins.

Ward telling Hopkins he'll never fight him : So you can cut the "Hopkins is on Ward's schlong" crap. Of course Hopkins is going to play that role as the old man he wants no part. I just leave it up to Ward to call for the fight if it's really to be made. Young ambition, I'd think there might be SOME part of him that would like to fight, whereas Hopkins wants none until the money is right. Hopkins saying there's no amount of money means there is an amount they just haven't gotten to it yet; and maybe they never will since Ward hasn't proved to be a draw outside of his hometown yet. It was good fight for Ward to be commentating made it easy for Hopkins and him to be in the same picture and raise these questions because I do want to see this fight for selfish reasons.

Ward telling Hopkins he'll never fight him : So you can cut the "Hopkins is on Ward's schlong" crap. hahahaha he'd move out of the country. But Hopkins isn't ducking stop being a prick lol

Ward telling Hopkins he'll never fight him : So you can cut the "Hopkins is on Ward's schlong" crap. Dam you got in there before me. Love to see the response now. :owned:

Hopkins will only fight fighters he know he can beat. We won't ever see an Andre Ward/Hopkins fight because Andre Ward would make him look silly. People keep using age as an excuse for Hopkins to duck Andre Ward, yet after last nights Impressive Performance, can age really be the excuse still? hopkins has tried to make friends with the best fighter of this era around his weight class, ward looked and sounded embarrassed that hopkins was all over his schlong saturday night.. "i dont know what he's saying, but he said we'll never fight" Ward telling Hopkins he'll never fight him : So you can cut the "Hopkins is on Ward's schlong" crap.

Cleverly vs Hopkins is a genuine 50-50 fight. Styles makes fights and whilst Hopkins usually make unbeaten champs freeze, Cleverley isnt the type to suffer crisis of confidence like Pavlik and Tarver did. Like Calzaghe theres a natural arrogance there and he will keep working away trying to impose his style rather than accept Hopkins'. I think Joes output numbers were reduced and Nathans will be too as theres a big experience discrepancy but whereas Cloud have up trying, Nathan will keep working especially if he has 50k in the stadium cheering him on. Good fight. Make it happen.

Why is Bhop after the paper champions and kids instead of the real Champion in Andre Ward? Because Andre Ward fights at 168 and Hopkins is fighting at light heavyweight? What a pathetic troll attempt. (at least I hope you're trolling and not really this dumb.)

Not an alt, and I'm just telling it like how I see it. Should I shut up for giving my opinion? Why is Bhop after the paper champions and kids instead of the real Champion in Andre Ward? Why is it that when Hopkins stepped up to the plate against a good fighter in Chad Dawson he took a schooling, than after the fight he claimed robbery even tho he lost in a lop-sided fight against Dawson. So you just happen to show up as Bhop wins and say nothing other than how he goes after paper champions instead of the #1 p4p who mutually respects him and looks at him as a teacher? lol don't you see how that sounds retarded? Also Andre ward is the real champ a weightclass below him. Why Can't Hopkins dominate HIS OWN WEIGHT CLASS. Also HE IS 48 YEARS OLD. Not someone in his prime scared to lose

lol I swear there's like 3 or 4 hopkins haters on here with alts just to discredit this poor old man

So it's not good enough for you if B-Hop fights the world champions of his weight class? Plus your quote makes no sense. Going into last night he was coming off a loss to Chad Dawson. he was forced to fight dawson after years of the fans pushing it, remember what happened the first time? hopkins found a way out of the fight by faking injury.

Hopkins will only fight fighters he know he can beat. We won't ever see an Andre Ward/Hopkins fight because Andre Ward would make him look silly. People keep using age as an excuse for Hopkins to duck Andre Ward, yet after last nights Impressive Performance, can age really be the excuse still? I mean Hopkins just beat a fighter that lost to Gabriel Campillo, what's more impressive then that? Maybe beating an inexperienced fighter like Nathan Cleverly? this dude knows his boxing. hopkins has tried to make friends with the best fighter of this era around his weight class, ward looked and sounded embarrassed that hopkins was all over his schlong saturday night.. "i dont know what he's saying, but he said we'll never fight" hopkins is being way too overly kind to a kid he has no history with at all, if hopkins cares about his legacy as much as he says he would fight and beat ward, it would easily be the biggest win on his resume.. but no, he ducks it like he ducked the previous king of his era roy jones.

Hopkins will only fight fighters he know he can beat. So it's not good enough for you if B-Hop fights the world champions of his weight class? Plus your quote makes no sense. Going into last night he was coming off a loss to Chad Dawson. So he had just fought a fighter who he couldn't beat. :dunno:

Only after he breaks Calzaghe's number of defenses So hopkins will have to wait until he's 53

And I hope he does. WARHOPKINS