Please stop saying Hopkins outclassed Cloud and won almost every round, cause he didn't. The HBO commentary makes it look like Hopkins is putting on a masterclass when he isn't throwing ANY PUNCHES and is just standing there doing nothing or moving away.
I scored 4 rounds a draw: rounds 1,2,4 and 9.
I gave Hopkins rounds 3,6,11 and 12
I gave Cloud rounds 5,7,8 and 10
And I was REALLY HAVING A HEADACHE giving rounds 11 and 12 to Hopkins cause he basically didn't really win them.
And even rounds 3 and 6 which I gave to Hopkins were in reality almost drawish kind of rounds.
So PLEASE watch the fight without commentary and you will see that apart from nothing happening the whole fight, you can make a case of Cloud outworking Hopkins and winning the fight by a point or two.
And don't get me wrong, I think it is incredible that Hopkins at age 48 can hang in there with Cloud, but to say he wins a round in which he is not doing anything is...well....
:rofl:
What in the f*ck. So this guy is that bitter because no one agrees with his "draw" card with 4 even rounds?
Dude is on here trolling one of the clearest wins of the year.
Wow.....raskat just took no life, disturbed, internet retard to a whole new level. He's just taken the time to go to every one of the people who disagreed with him to change their user titles.
Poor guy. I'm starting to feel sorry for the little fella. He's like that fat kid who gets beat up but sadly doesn't even have a brain to keep himself amused with.
Pretty sad and childish really.
I didn't alter anything on your profile, Raskat. Pretty sad for you to stoop to such childish levels.
Wow.....raskat just took no life, disturbed, internet retard to a whole new level. He's just taken the time to go to every one of the people who disagreed with him to change their user titles.
Poor guy. I'm starting to feel sorry for the little fella. He's like that fat kid who gets beat up but sadly doesn't even have a brain to keep himself amused with.
I feel sorry for guys like this that simply can't understand what they aren't even seeing. His perception of fights gets so skewed by his warped mind that he genuinely can't see what's happening. Most hypocritical, bias fools like him sort of have an understanding deep down that they favour their fighter, for whatever demented reason, and thus could be scoring badly in favour. They can understand this a little.
Raskat can't and is one of those guys that's also incredibly blinded by his 'dislike' of certain fighters. He's got a pretty obvious theme running through his ridiculous cards. Sadly, no matter what you say, show, do, explain, it will simply not register. His brain will literally block every argument for reason, common sense, logic, sanity, rationality, normalcy, intelligence, and clear perception to show him whatever he wants. He would be a terrible, scary religious fanatic.
No matter how the fight went, he would see it in a completely distorted perspective to suit his own bias. He's very particular that way. Very unique too...or uniquely retarded. Take your pick.
Nah, I don't lie. I was always saying it wasn't a robbery, what meant there was enough close rounds to make it close win for P-Will. Never actually had it for him. 116:112,114:114,115:113 Lara.
I don't need to lie really, I'm sure people here will find it ridiculous enough to discredit me anyway ;).
That is a terrible score. 118-110 Lara. not even close
I never thought I would agree with you on something, but....I had it either 10 rounds to 2 for Lara or 10 rounds to 1 for Lara with 1 round even.
Not true, I had it 116:112 Lara, draw and 115:113 Lara last time, I just don't think it was robbery the people make it to be.
That is a terrible score. 118-110 Lara. not even close
Not true, I had it 116:112 Lara, draw and 115:113 Lara last time, I just don't think it was robbery the people make it to be.
Tell the whole truth. Don't come on here and tell the people how I scored certain fights and then lie about your own scorecard of past fights. You said a dozens of times in the past that you thought Paul Williams beat Lara. And only after I talked to you about it, did you rewatch the fight and later say to me this time you scored it a draw or something like that.
You just can't score for guys you don't like raskat. Floyd lost to Cotto, Hopkins lost to Cloud, Bika and Boone beat Ward. It is what it is, Hopkins won clearly.
Mastra, can you please tell the people of this forum how you scored Erislandy Lara vs Paul Williams? Because I remember you said you scored it clearly for Paul Williams.
thank you.
PS. Actually I said Hopkins vs Cloud was a draw.
You just can't score for guys you don't like raskat. Floyd lost to Cotto, Hopkins lost to Cloud, Bika and Boone beat Ward. It is what it is, Hopkins won clearly.
Not surprised so many people here can't score. Most people here have only watched a handful of fights, and nothing pre 2000.
So I understand they believe everything HBO tells them. They just don't know any better. Sad but true.
Ahhh, yes. No one else can score but you can :lol1:
No one else score 4 even rounds in a fight. It's not everyone else, it's you.
No one can score but you, all media, and 99% of other people are wrong.
By the way, only one person who had Hopkins winning actually posted a (totally retarded) scorecard. None of the others even scored the fight or has the balls to post a scorecard. Cause they know their scorecards are complete trash.
There is not a SINGLE ROUND in the whole fight which Hopkins CLEARLY won. Not a SINGLE ROUND.
And if there is a round in your opinion which Hopkins "totally dominated" then tell me which round that was cause I need a good laugh.
And now I wanna know: if a fighter doesn't win a SINGLE ROUND out of 12 rounds CLEARLY, then HOW THE HELL did he "DOMINATE" the fight??
Bro calm down. His scorecard is obviously more realistic than yours. Unless, you know, you score better than everyone who watches boxing somehow. Maybe we should start a petition to have the decision turned into a no decision because Bhop didn't win enough clear rounds for the master of boxing lol
I have posted it once and I'll post it again because you don't seem to understand something about scoring fights on TV. You can't legitimately score a fight watching it on Mute because you can't hear the clear and effective punches land and a lot of the time you'll end up giving the more active fighter in a fight rounds he doesn't deserve due to work rate. yes Cloud did throw more punches and if you watch this fight on mute and score it for Cloud based on INeffective aggression. Same with the retards who make excuses for Timothy Bradley. You need to hear the punches land. what I do is take my HD over ear headphones and turn up the bass booster on the VLC player and the volume loud enough to where the commentary is just blurry to the point where it WONT affect your opinion on the fight and the headphones really amplify the sound of the punches as if you were in the ring. Judging a fight on mute is the equivalent of letting a judge who is deaf score a fight. It's retarded
118-110 Hopkins. I gave Cloud round 2 and I think Round 8. The other 10 rounds were for Hopkins.
I didn't see a close fight. And it has nothing to do with HBO.
By the way, only one person who had Hopkins winning actually posted a (totally retarded) scorecard. None of the others even scored the fight or has the balls to post a scorecard. Cause they know their scorecards are complete trash.
There is not a SINGLE ROUND in the whole fight which Hopkins CLEARLY won. Not a SINGLE ROUND.
And if there is a round in your opinion which Hopkins "totally dominated" then tell me which round that was cause I need a good laugh.
And now I wanna know: if a fighter doesn't win a SINGLE ROUND out of 12 rounds CLEARLY, then HOW THE HELL did he "DOMINATE" the fight??
Not surprised so many people here can't score. Most people here have only watched a handful of fights, and nothing pre 2000.
So I understand they believe everything HBO tells them. They just don't know any better. Sad but true.