Robert Garcia is the best Boxing trainer in the world and has an incredible roster of fighters but I was wondering who is second. Is Freddie Roach second or has he seen his best days?
Some trainers I think that may be the second best boxing trainer in the world.
Virgil Hunter
Nacho Beristain
Freddie Roach
Abel Sanchez
Pablo Sarmiento
Barry Hunter
Easy now, while Nacho is certainly the best out there today and one of the best of all time, when you say the greatest the conversation starts including Ray Arcel, Angelo Dundee, Manny Stewart, and Georgie Benton. While Nacho is probably as good as these guys, he's not better
A few fighters have said Dundee was a motivator and not a trainer. Just for the record.
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Garcia is a good trainer but he's getting a tad overrated. They handed alot of his champs to him. He does get credit for Rios, Gradovich and to a smaller extent Mikey Garcia but that's pretty much it
I don't think Garcia is overrated at all. He is very technical but people don't see it. His father knows his stuff and he learned everything from him.
For me Nacho is the best in the game. People need to remember, a coach is as much a motivator as a technical guy. Both are very important.
Nacho is vastly experienced and a tremendous trainer. Personally, I feel Virgil Hunter and even Barry Hunter are under-appreciated when compared to Robert Garcia. Any trainer who can bring a young kid with average athleticism, and average physicality into a world class championship level fighter, they must know what they're doing. Look at the Peterson bros. Yea, Anthony hasn't done as much as Lamont, but still. Look at Virgil, and what he's done with Andre. Ward has gone his entire amateur and professional career with a combined record of 146-5. And, the last time he's lost was when he was 12-13 before he even hit puberty. Since then he's gone undefeated in his amateur and pro career against cream of the crop competition and is a top 3 P4P fighter. Virgil did all of that from scratch. He is a spectacular trainer and coach with a very personal understanding of the sport. He's very good at keeping you on track.
Also, IMO Robert actually doesn't get enough credit for doing what he's done with Mikey. He gets a lot of attention for Rios, Donaire etc. But IMO, I think Mikey is his masterpiece.
As I said, Nacho is a tremendous man and trainer. And, Dinamita is proof of that. But, IMO there is no such thing as the "best" trainer. Once you reach a certain level of skill, it's really about your style of doing things and how it matches up with a specific fighter, JUST like boxing itself is like. Just my two cents fellas.
Ignacio Beristain is by far the greatest boxing trainer of all time.
Everybody else is scrambling for a very distant second place position.
Easy now, while Nacho is certainly the best out there today and one of the best of all time, when you say the greatest the conversation starts including Ray Arcel, Angelo Dundee, Manny Stewart, and Georgie Benton. While Nacho is probably as good as these guys, he's not better
Nacho is the best in the world right now and of the best of all times
sarmiento and hunter are sh1t
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Garcia is a good trainer but he's getting a tad overrated. They handed alot of his champs to him. He does get credit for Rios, Gradovich and to a smaller extent Mikey Garcia but that's pretty much it
This kind of thread is stupid, there is no discernible way to tell who is the best trainer in the world. Some trainers suit some fighters and some don't, some focus on 1 or 2 elite guys and some train many fighters at grassroots level... they all have as equally important job in developing fighters to reach their best.
Ignacio "Nacho" Beristain, is the best trainer of today and one of the best in the last 40 years, in a previous life when I was living in Guadalajara MX I was given the opportunity to go and train with him but a few days before I left to Mexico City I got sick and I never went, I sometimes think of what could had been, Nacho's dream is to one day have a Mexican heavyweight world champion, maybe my he can train my son one day.
Nacho is the best tactical trainer in boxing.
Roach is the only one that comes close, but it's clear that Parkinson's has taken its toll on him these past few years.
Virgil might get there one day, but right now every trainer in boxing is looking up towards Nacho.
I always felt that the only people who should be able to comment on who are the best trainers are the fighters themselves... They are the ones with the trainers day in, day out...
Fans and writers don't see everything that goes on nor can they determine the kind of chemistry that a fighter has with a certain trainer...
Well, you're an idiot then.
All a writer or fan must do in order to determine a boxing trainer's greatness is to look at the amount of champions that trainer has produced from scratch.
It's literally that easy.
I've always said this and I'll continue to say it, people put too much emphasis on the trainer's name and not enough on fighter style and trainer style together. Garcia may be a great trainer but would you pair him with Mayweather? Mayweather Sr may be great but would you put him with Rios? There is no one size fits all trainer, you need to take into consideration the styles and how they can both benefit each other.
I always felt that the only people who should be able to comment on who are the best trainers are the fighters themselves... They are the ones with the trainers day in, day out...
Fans and writers don't see everything that goes on nor can they determine the kind of chemistry that a fighter has with a certain trainer...
Garcias not qualified to carry a spit bucket for Nacho Beristein
Well put. Nacho is the man and has trained 25 or 26 world champions. His knowledge of boxing is unparalleled.
I don't think Garcia is the best trainer in the world; he let Margarito get a career-ending injury for no reason, had no good tactical advice for Rios against Abril or Donaire against Narvaez. Both Pavlik and Angulo look worse than they did before they hired him.
stop hating