How do you "Cherry Pick" #1s, Champs & guys coming off career wins?

When in doubt, bring Pacquiao out. The go to line for the average Floyd fan.Floyd one sided Marquez who damn near killed Pacquiao.

When in doubt, bring Pacquiao out. The go to line for the average Floyd fan. Lot's of truth to this post.

Floyd fought Judah first who was coming directly off that loss to Baldomir. Then he fought Baldomir. OP must have just started following boxing. ...because the fight was already done before Baldy. Floyd was with Arum back then, remember?

Ortiz - former quitter/mental midget Cotto - former quitter/mental midget Guerrero - former quitter You're right, I am starting to notice a trend.

Floyd dangles that win that the opponent had and Floyd's fans bite! First of all, when one looks closely, that win that Floyd dangles was not as impressive as its made out to be. Their resume at the division is usually very average and even when you look at what they did after, its just as pathetic (see below) Including Floyd's fight, here are what those dangerous opponents did since they faced Floyd: Cotto : 0-2 Ortiz : 0-2 Mosley : 0-4-1 Hatton (at 147): 0-2 TOTAL: 0 Wins, 10 losses, 1 draw :lol1: Number of fights at WW before facing Floyd Ortiz: 1 Hatton: 1 Marquez: 0 Sharmba: 1 Guerrero: 2 5 of Floyd's opponents had a GRAND TOTAL of 6 fights at WW!!! :lol1: GB was stating that Khan, with no fights at WW, was going to be next for Floyd but Khan lost to Garcia. Khan had 0 fights at WW ... same pattern, different fighter! How Floyd fans can have the strength to protect their hero is beyond explanation! :dunno:

Why cant people say something about floyd ducking dangerous opponents without it turning into a ***** fest about Pacquiao. They BOTH have fought each others leftovers, the difference is Pacquiao was fighting guys way bigger so it was a more dangerous fight for him. Floyd could have picked mosley years ago when he fought Baldamir yet he chooses "the champ" well yea he was the champ but he was not a threat to Floyd. Floyd fights Zab who loses to the guy Floyd defeats easily in Baldy. Ortiz a power puncher so he had a punchers chance but we alll knew floyd would pick him apart and we all knew floyd would outbox cotto to a 12 round decision. At least Pacquiao recently fought Bradley, who many people predicted would upset Pac and then Marquez who we all knew was a threat to Pacquiao. SO pacquiao is fighting guys who are a threat to him late in his career yet Floyd is picking easier opponents. I think Geurros good and it will be a decent fight so thats a start. Now if he fights Canelo next well then all of us can eat crow because Canelo regardless of what Floyd fans think is a threat to him. Hes biggger then floyd and more powerful so its a big risk for FLoyd to take that fight, probably the biggest risk hes ever taken since becoming a star. I would definately give him respect if we see Canelo Mayweather in September.......if instead we see Mayweather vs Alexander........well then its clear hes cherry picking. Same as if Pac chooses to fight lets say even bradley next, thats a safe fight because we all saw how easy he was for Pacquiao last year...thats a fight I dont' want to see.

But...he did fight the top guy at 154. Hence, the title and his number 1 ranking. If you're talking currently, that has yet to be seen. He's a champ at 147 as well. Let him defend that real quick. Like I said before, he can't be at 2 places at once. I don't know if you're expecting him to constantly fight at 154 from here on out and ignore his proper 147 division. Or fight Guerrero and Canelo at the same time...at once. Guerrero made sense as a tuneup for the planned Canelo showdown in September. If he ends up fighting a threat later this year, no issues. But a lot of his fans are willing to absolve him of fighting true 154 cause he's "too small". Big enough for #1 guy, not big enough for any of the guys behind him?

That's a pretty impressive set of fights if you ask me. If anyone else fought those fighters at the same time Mayweather fought them you can bet they'd be getting a hell of a lot of praise. It's good, but not as good as the diehards constantly try to say it is. Hatton is good. Marquez is pretty good, and looks much better now than it did then. Mosley is damn good, the most underrated win there. Ortiz is an average fighter. His career before and after Mayweather has proven that. Cotto had done near nothing at 154, and its ridiculous how the Mayweather fans flipped on him once Mayweather signed to fight him. Oscar was okay, that's it, and he was part time at that point. Those wins are simply not any better than okay. To brag about them like they are anything special is ridiculous. Which is what the TS and all the nuthuggers are doing in this thread.

I don't care about Canelo. Any number of super welters will do to make it more competitive than 10/1 dog Guerrero. Canelo is the biggest money fight for him though, seems natural. If he's unwilling to fight top fighters at 154, fine, lets not pretend he's a true champ at 154 despite his 2x status and #1 current ranking. Still an excellent resume, but sells his talent well short. Even Marquez took much tougher fights in his 5th division, and he's way less suited for moving up. But...he did fight the top guy at 154. Hence, the title and his number 1 ranking. If you're talking currently, that has yet to be seen. He's a champ at 147 as well. Let him defend that real quick. Like I said before, he can't be at 2 places at once. I don't know if you're expecting him to constantly fight at 154 from here on out and ignore his proper 147 division. Or fight Guerrero and Canelo at the same time...at once.

I agree that people are unfair to Pac as well, but my thread wasn't supposed to be about Pac. It was suppose to be about giving Floyd the same credit as you would others. Rather then bashing Floyd for one thing, then praising another for someone doing the same thing. Can you at least agree that that's what goes on in this forum? I mean, that kind of stuff happens here, right? Now about Floyd fighting the number 1 and not the number 2 or 3. I'm guessing you're talking about Floyd fighting Cotto and not Canelo or Trout. To be honest, I think Floyd is too small for 154. I thought he was too small for Cotto, despite the win. I don't know if you guys have ever seen Floyd in person, but I have. He is pretty small. He's almost my height and I'm pretty small. He doesn't even make the full JMW limit. I don't expect Floyd nor Pac to fight at 154. If he does fight at 154, I consider it a bonus, not an expectation. And plus, we don't even know if he's fighting Canelo or not. He fights in 2 divisions. His last fight was with the number 1 guy at 154. Now he's fighting at 147 against the number 3 guy. If his next fight is at 154, then maybe it will be Canelo. The point is, he can only be at one weight class at a time. It's not like he said "I won't fight Canelo." I don't care about Canelo. Any number of super welters will do to make it more competitive than 10/1 dog Guerrero. Canelo is the biggest money fight for him though, seems natural. If he's unwilling to fight top fighters at 154, fine, lets not pretend he's a true champ at 154 despite his 2x status and #1 current ranking. Still an excellent resume, but sells his talent well short. Even Marquez took much tougher fights in his 5th division, and he's way less suited for moving up.

RG takes hard shots from a legit WW in Berto. Then gives out some legit shots, closes both of his eyes, has him pissing blood but he's a lightweight. This dude mauled Berto. **** outta here with the lightweight sh*t. :rofl: mauled berto? is that suppose to prove anything? lmfaaooooo GTFO with that stupid sh*t.

Come on man, the standards for Floyd are far lower than for Pac. People pick on Pac's comp in his 7th and 8th division. At the same time none of these Floyd fans expect him to act like a proper champ in his 5th! They love to say he beat the #1 guy there, but when it comes to #2, #3, Floyd is too small, he's just a welter :lol1: I agree that people are unfair to Pac as well, but my thread wasn't supposed to be about Pac. It was suppose to be about giving Floyd the same credit as you would others. Rather then bashing Floyd for one thing, then praising another for someone doing the same thing. Can you at least agree that that's what goes on in this forum? I mean, that kind of stuff happens here, right? Now about Floyd fighting the number 1 and not the number 2 or 3. I'm guessing you're talking about Floyd fighting Cotto and not Canelo or Trout. To be honest, I think Floyd is too small for 154. I thought he was too small for Cotto, despite the win. I don't know if you guys have ever seen Floyd in person, but I have. He is pretty small. He's almost my height and I'm pretty small. He doesn't even make the full JMW limit. I don't expect Floyd nor Pac to fight at 154. If he does fight at 154, I consider it a bonus, not an expectation. And plus, we don't even know if he's fighting Canelo or not. He fights in 2 divisions. His last fight was with the number 1 guy at 154. Now he's fighting at 147 against the number 3 guy. If his next fight is at 154, then maybe it will be Canelo. The point is, he can only be at one weight class at a time. It's not like he said "I won't fight Canelo."

To fight Floyd you need a few things. You have to be comming off a win, not just any win, but an impressive one. Mosley KOd plaster boy, #1 WW/Champ. Ortiz took apart Berto impressively, WW Champ. Cotto beat his in the ring assaulter, JMW Champ. JMM was #2 P4P, and spanking young champs. Plus he was the thorn in Mannys side. Oscar JMW champ.... Hatton just KOd JLC, the guy who gave Floyd problems. Do we see a trend here? This bumsniffing of Floyd is actually a full time thing for you, huh? Damn flojob's :nonono:

Pac fights 3 times as much as Floyd does. All Floyd has to do is fight once in a while against someone coming off of a win and thats supposed to shut everyone up? People keep telling Floyd who he should fight to try and make up for his waste of a career, but he never does and never listens. People dont put high standards for Floyd, they are making suggestions for Floyd to make Floyd try and justify the hype.

Speaking of standards, I knew Pac was held to a higher standard when he shutout Mosley 12 rounds to 0, knocked him down, yet somehow the Floydboyz claimed that somehow Shane exposed Pac! :pat: or like when pacfans said the samething about floyd when he fought shane

Come on man, the standards for Floyd are far lower than for Pac. People pick on Pac's comp in his 7th and 8th division. At the same time none of these Floyd fans expect him to act like a proper champ in his 5th! They love to say he beat the #1 guy there, but when it comes to #2, #3, Floyd is too small, he's just a welter :lol1: Speaking of standards, I knew Pac was held to a higher standard when he shutout Mosley 12 rounds to 0, knocked him down, yet somehow the Floydboyz claimed that somehow Shane exposed Pac! :pat:

Come on man, the standards for Floyd are far lower than for Pac. People pick on Pac's comp in his 7th and 8th division. At the same time none of these Floyd fans expect him to act like a proper champ in his 5th! They love to say he beat the #1 guy there, but when it comes to #2, #3, Floyd is too small, he's just a welter :lol1: Exactly, and everyone knows this. There are about a hundred threads about whether Floyd is afraid to fight Canelo, and the reason is Floyd is seen as some kind of joke figure in boxing and ducks everyone. SSM wasnt scared to fight Canelo thats for sure, and didnt get even a pat on the back for fighting canelo. But if Floyd agrees to fight canelo, he will expect his shoes to be licked clean. The standards for Floyd are far lower.

That's just how it is with Floyd. Anyone else with Floyd's resume would be praised as a God. Can you imagine Pacquiao with Floyd's resume? I promise you, these people would call him the greatest. If you're fighting fighters that are ranked number 1 in the division or coming off an impressive win, you are not cherry picking. Plain and simple. If a fighter isn't fighting the best fighters of a certain promotion but fighting the best at another promotion, then the most logical and reasonable explanation for that is simply because of the promotional war. Not because he's scared. But to those people who thinks Guerrero is a cherry pick, tell me who else he should fight at 147. People will of course name Pacquiao despite being from Top Rank. But they will bring his name up regardless as if the fight is still possible. And IF that fight somehow magically happens, I promise you, the same people will say Pac was over the hill and coming off a knock out loss. To those people, don't lie. Even you guys have to admit you will say that. Judging from the posts I see here, I believe it is fair for me to believe that. I will agree Shane Mosley was old. He was 39 I believe when he fought Mayweather. Realistically in boxing years, that's old. I'm mature enough to understand that. But I also believe that Sergio Martinez was old when he fought Chavez Jr. Yet, people still want to see Martinez fight GGG. Just like people wanted to see Mayweather vs Mosley. In fact, I'm pretty sure some of you on this site were even predicting Mosley to win. But my point is, we can't complain about age after we begged for this fight just because Mayweather won the fight. But since age is such an importance to you guys, let's talk about Mayweather's age when he fought Ortiz. Ortiz was too inexperienced...right guys? What if it was Hopkins vs Pavlik? Different story huh? All I'm saying is...be fair. Come on man, the standards for Floyd are far lower than for Pac. People pick on Pac's comp in his 7th and 8th division. At the same time none of these Floyd fans expect him to act like a proper champ in his 5th! They love to say he beat the #1 guy there, but when it comes to #2, #3, Floyd is too small, he's just a welter :lol1:

amazing aint it...yet others can fight fighters coming off of loses or unranked fighters and be praised LMFAO ^^^^This^^^^^ Apparent "money team" supporter is probably broke and unsuccessful....

Because most those fighters aren't that good. You expect more credit for Mayweather winning those fights than he actually deserves. That's where the problem always arises between Mayweather's diehards and everyone else. That's a pretty impressive set of fights if you ask me. If anyone else fought those fighters at the same time Mayweather fought them you can bet they'd be getting a hell of a lot of praise.